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Interesting :-). There's been times I have had dreams - lucid ones especially, that the behavior of characters or appearence if or actions of things were inexplicable to me, beyond my experience and understanding, or had the quality of other intelligence. Usually though those have occurred in real time - I think that's what its called anyway...
I have a tendency to believe Jung was an experienced mystic who was trying to make his understanding of spiritual reality politically correct for his time.
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Interesting :-). There's been times I have had dreams - lucid ones especially, that the behavior of characters or appearence if or actions of things were inexplicable to me, beyond my experience and understanding, or had the quality of other intelligence. Usually though those have occurred in real time - I think that's what its called anyway...
I have a tendency to believe Jung was an experienced mystic who was trying to make his understanding of spiritual reality politically correct for his time.
Yes and yes! I think you understand exactly what I'm thinking! Jung was like Monroe, Bulhman, Bruce, Leland, Zwie (sp) on steroieds. But he had another layer to him. Truly a mystic.
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Okay, I think I've solved it - at least to my own satisfaction. There is a 'collective unconscious’ (is that not the way Jung put it?). When we are lucid dreaming we are in that space or realm. The many ‘extras’ we observe are the unconscious multitudes in that plane of unconsciousness - I would guess it’s astral plane 3. As was said, they’re not conscious; only we, the dreamer/projector are.
So often I feel IRL the same way - conscious among the unconscious. Or maybe unconscious among the conscious. Flip the coin, I don’t care.
That's why I'm eyeoneblack haha....
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There is a 'collective unconscious’ (is that not the way Jung put it?).
Yes, yes he did. And a Superconscious. And all that good stuff. ;)
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Yes, yes he did. And a Superconscious. And all that good stuff. ;)
I Sw2God I read everything Jung wrote and I do not recall any mention of a "superconscious"? Is that inferred by another author?
Not saying you're wrong. Just surprised I don't remember something so significant!
Oh, forget it. My Jung is REALLY rusty :(
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It's been a while since I read Jung too, but I'm sure it can be looked up.
It may have been inferred with other metaphysical authors, in that they may have renamed the collective unconscious 'superconscious'. But I'm not sure. I vaguely recall that both Freud and Jung posited a superconscious mind but Freud poo-poohed it, but it's been too long for me to remember clearly.
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it's been too long for me to remember clearly.
Same here :)
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Superconscious is like higher self consciousness.
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Superconscious is like higher self consciousness.
Yep.