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  1. Re: OBE Exit Poll

    Also I agree that there is not much knowledge about OBEs in Germany. The only OBE forum in German that I know about is at www.paranormal.de and that one forum only has about 10 posts a Month! Not very active. So yes it Is best to do your own research, try different methods and see what works best for You.
    The situation in the german speaking internet is more worse. If low activity in forums would be the problem, it could be solued. And the low knowledge would change with the time.

    In germany are at this time 1 huge esotericforum ( www.esoterikforum.at ) and 4 smaller but still very active forums ( http://www.esoterikforum.de/ , http://www.paraportal.org/ , http://www.wahrexakten.org/ , http://www.parapsychologie.de/ ) and an estimated amount of 20 small forums like www.paranormal.de and http://www.mind-gate.com/ and http://www.foren4all.de/forum_index.php . The most of them are not connected to the others.

    The problem is, that the huge forum is bad moderated. There are people with 20.000 posts and more in it. But most of them are critics, disturbers and trolls. Many of the users with more than 5000 posts write only directly insulting or provoking posts. Most of the other 5000+ users write only off topics to waste some time or get a good place in the "highscore list". Only every 10th user with more than 5000 posts knows more than just a bit about the actual topics of the forums and is also interested to talk sometimes ontopic. The real users are only few. New users stay not for long there. They leave it usually after a half year or a year. The frequent disturbing posts from the critics and trolls make it hard to talk. The admin of this forum feels not disturbed, he looks only on the posting counter and the money, which he makes with this forum. So are there even people rare, which had a first OBE. At this time are only 2 or 3 people in this forum active, which had more than 20 OBEs. I should mention now, that this forum is active since 10 Years and produces all the time the same amount of posts like this forum here.

    The 4 smaller forums are a bit better moderated, and some more experienced users are there (An amount of 10 till 20 users with more than 20 OBEs is spread on them), but the activity there is low. Most users are drawn to the huge forum, because it looks at the first sight very good. But if one tries to make more activity, comes the insulting and provoking.

    The nearly dead forums www.paranormal.de and http://www.mind-gate.com/ where once the two big ones. They had once the elite of the experienced users. In these are still 5 till 10 Users with more than 100 OBEs. 2 till 5 of them have more than 500 OBEs. But the other users where constantly drawn away by the huge esoterikforum since long time ago. And the moderators in www.paranormal.de fears to delete consequently the troll and insulting posts. The last trolling wave 1 year ago removed again nearly all users, which where not from the paranormal staff.

    It seems like the critics and enemys of the paranormal got now the power in the german speaking part of the internet.

    Even the german wikipedia article of OBE (in german Astralreise) is written and controlled by critics. They delete most things, which makes possible users curious. It is not possible to mention any word about the possibility to learn to make intentional OBEs. It is there even not possible to write, that there are forums, where people believe that OBEs can be learned.

    The most useful homepages about OBEs in germany are older than 10 yearsand have not changed or not changed much. There are many newer homepages, but only a few of them offer cost free informations, which are not copied without any testing from the older homepages and / or basics of the basics.

    If the germans would see the forums here and speak enough english, they would stay here immediately.

    I tried many things in the last 8 Years to change the worsening (The time more than 8 years ago where the "golden times of OBE" in germany, At this time was www.paranormal.de and www.mind-gate.com still alive). But i was never really succesfull.
    Last edited by proyect_outzone; 29th January 2012 at 09:39 AM.

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    D: about 40+/- obe/ap
    and B: i had my first at 13 after trying since i was 11 or so
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    Yes Gray, that was what I tried to say, thankĀ“s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proyect_outzone View Post
    The situation in the german speaking internet is more worse. If low activity in forums would be the problem, it could be solued. And the low knowledge would change with the time.

    In germany are at this time 1 huge esotericforum ( www.esoterikforum.at ) and 4 smaller but still very active forums ( http://www.esoterikforum.de/ , http://www.paraportal.org/ , http://www.wahrexakten.org/ , http://www.parapsychologie.de/ ) and an estimated amount of 20 small forums like www.paranormal.de and http://www.mind-gate.com/ and http://www.foren4all.de/forum_index.php . The most of them are not connected to the others.

    The problem is, that the huge forum is bad moderated. There are people with 20.000 posts and more in it. But most of them are critics, disturbers and trolls. Many of the users with more than 5000 posts write only directly insulting or provoking posts. Most of the other 5000+ users write only off topics to waste some time or get a good place in the "highscore list". Only every 10th user with more than 5000 posts knows more than just a bit about the actual topics of the forums and is also interested to talk sometimes ontopic. The real users are only few. New users stay not for long there. They leave it usually after a half year or a year. The frequent disturbing posts from the critics and trolls make it hard to talk. The admin of this forum feels not disturbed, he looks only on the posting counter and the money, which he makes with this forum. So are there even people rare, which had a first OBE. At this time are only 2 or 3 people in this forum active, which had more than 20 OBEs. I should mention now, that this forum is active since 10 Years and produces all the time the same amount of posts like this forum here.

    The 4 smaller forums are a bit better moderated, and some more experienced users are there (An amount of 10 till 20 users with more than 20 OBEs is spread on them), but the activity there is low. Most users are drawn to the huge forum, because it looks at the first sight very good. But if one tries to make more activity, comes the insulting and provoking.

    The nearly dead forums www.paranormal.de and http://www.mind-gate.com/ where once the two big ones. They had once the elite of the experienced users. In these are still 5 till 10 Users with more than 100 OBEs. 2 till 5 of them have more than 500 OBEs. But the other users where constantly drawn away by the huge esoterikforum since long time ago. And the moderators in www.paranormal.de fears to delete consequently the troll and insulting posts. The last trolling wave 1 year ago removed again nearly all users, which where not from the paranormal staff.

    It seems like the critics and enemys of the paranormal got now the power in the german speaking part of the internet.

    Even the german wikipedia article of OBE (in german Astralreise) is written and controlled by critics. They delete most things, which makes possible users curious. It is not possible to mention any word about the possibility to learn to make intentional OBEs. It is there even not possible to write, that there are forums, where people believe that OBEs can be learned.

    The most useful homepages about OBEs in germany are older than 10 yearsand have not changed or not changed much. There are many newer homepages, but only a few of them offer cost free informations, which are not copied without any testing from the older homepages and / or basics of the basics.

    If the germans would see the forums here and speak enough english, they would stay here immediately.

    I tried many things in the last 8 Years to change the worsening (The time more than 8 years ago where the "golden times of OBE" in germany, At this time was www.paranormal.de and www.mind-gate.com still alive). But i was never really succesfull.
    Well, I'm glad that English is taught in schools in Germany- so y'all can come on over and participate over here.
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    This would be great, but sadly means learning english in a german school not, that one is able to speak and understand enough english after the school to make useful conversations beyond asking what time it is and where the airport is. Only a small percentage of the germans can speak and understand an "useful" english. The others know mostly only enough to be able to use english electronic devices, computergames and similar. I will mention the advantages of the english forums, but i think that only a few germans are able to use them.

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