Please do not read this

[CFTraveler]

[Neil Templar]

[CFTraveler]

Made you look!
Now you changed it's quantum state.

[ButterflyWoman]

So is this thread now a particle or a wave?

[CFTraveler]

It's a particle. It just became a particle even longer because people keep looking at it.

[Neil Templar]

i'm waving at the particle.

[Neil Templar]

ever noticed that particle sounds like "party-cool" (well it does in my head )

[Tutor]

'waves' at y'all

from wikipedia:

"Wave-only view:

At least one scientist proposes that the duality can be replaced by a "wave-only" view. Carver Mead's Collective Electrodynamics: Quantum Foundations of Electromagnetism (2000) analyzes the behavior of electrons and photons purely in terms of electron wave functions, and attributes the apparent particle-like behavior to quantization effects and eigenstates. According to reviewer David Haddon:

Mead has cut the Gordian knot of quantum complementarity. He claims that atoms, with their neutrons, protons, and electrons, are not particles at all but pure waves of matter. Mead cites as the gross evidence of the exclusively wave nature of both light and matter the discovery between 1933 and 1996 of ten examples of pure wave phenomena, including the ubiquitous laser of CD players, the self-propagating electrical currents of superconductors, and the Bose–Einstein condensate of atoms.

Albert Einstein, who, in his search for a Unified Field Theory, did not accept wave-particle duality, wrote:

This double nature of radiation (and of material corpuscles)...has been interpreted by quantum-mechanics in an ingenious and amazingly successful fashion. This interpretation...appears to me as only a temporary way out...

And theoretical physicist Mendel Sachs, who completed Einstein's unified field theory, writes:

Instead, one has a single, holistic continuum, wherein what were formerly called discrete, separable particles of matter are instead the infinite number of distinguishable, though correlated manifestations of this continuum, that in principle is the universe. Hence, wave-particle dualism, which is foundational for the quantum theory, is replaced by wave (continuous field) monism."

end of wiki quotation

[ButterflyWoman]

i'm waving at the particle.

And the particle waves back, but only when you're not looking.

ever noticed that particle sounds like "party-cool" (well it does in my head )

Bloody Scottsmen with their accents in their heads.

In my head, it sounds like "part uh cul" (because I have a non-regional North American accent, and so do my thoughts).

In some Aussie (that's pronounced "ozzie" just for the record) heads, though, I reckon it sounds like "pah duh kil" (or similar; I can only do a really bad, broad Aussie accent, despite many years of living here ). Australians have a really difficult time pronouncing the letter R. Or should I say "The letta ah".

[CFTraveler]

'waves' at y'all

from wikipedia:

"Wave-only view:

At least one scientist proposes that the duality can be replaced by a "wave-only" view. Carver Mead's Collective Electrodynamics: Quantum Foundations of Electromagnetism (2000) analyzes the behavior of electrons and photons purely in terms of electron wave functions, and attributes the apparent particle-like behavior to quantization effects and eigenstates. According to reviewer David Haddon:

Mead has cut the Gordian knot of quantum complementarity. He claims that atoms, with their neutrons, protons, and electrons, are not particles at all but pure waves of matter. Mead cites as the gross evidence of the exclusively wave nature of both light and matter the discovery between 1933 and 1996 of ten examples of pure wave phenomena, including the ubiquitous laser of CD players, the self-propagating electrical currents of superconductors, and the Bose–Einstein condensate of atoms.

Albert Einstein, who, in his search for a Unified Field Theory, did not accept wave-particle duality, wrote:

This double nature of radiation (and of material corpuscles)...has been interpreted by quantum-mechanics in an ingenious and amazingly successful fashion. This interpretation...appears to me as only a temporary way out...

And theoretical physicist Mendel Sachs, who completed Einstein's unified field theory, writes:

Instead, one has a single, holistic continuum, wherein what were formerly called discrete, separable particles of matter are instead the infinite number of distinguishable, though correlated manifestations of this continuum, that in principle is the universe. Hence, wave-particle dualism, which is foundational for the quantum theory, is replaced by wave (continuous field) monism."

end of wiki quotation

Didn't Bohm also speak of a 'pilot wave' made out of particles? I've already forgotten.
Whether the wave is what's there, or the particle is what's there, it's interesting to see that measurement brings about the particle observation anyway.