oh, so close...but no OBE cigar!

**CFTraveler** · 9th February 2012, 03:22 PM

Here is the question you asked in the 'Welcome' thread:

Originally Posted by Harry Shirton

CFTraveler:
Thanks for the link...after my last reply, I did a quick Google and got your "stickie" on energy body loosening techniques! If I'm reading the techniques right, after I get to a proper trance state, I want to basically "thrash around" a bit with whatever method works for me to loosen up the astral anchors to my physical body?

Yes, I think you already had the answer from this thread.

What about that thrumming sensation in my head around my ears? It was so so instense and heavy that I have to say I felt it, rather than hearing it...first time I had that sensation during my attempts.

When you are in trance all energetic sensations are amplified. This thread gives you a list of what to expect. Some you have already experienced, some not (yet)- maybe.
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/sho...ous-Projection

**Harry Shirton** · 9th February 2012, 03:37 PM

CFT...so far, going through Robert's ROPE methodology, I have experienced the expected sensations...I have gotten my trance state to the point I feel pretty much disembodied from my physical body, I can hear/sense a different energy level in myself...a vibration/humming...the thing with the loud thrumming in my ears was new...I am assuming its because I reached somewhere in the exiting I hadn't got to before, or maybe intensity of effort triggered it...I don't know...will loosen energy body, and everything I can before actual exit attempts...appreciate everyone's advice/counsel in this!

**rf396** · 10th February 2012, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Harry Shirton

rf, I'm glad you asked CFT about the getting up and walking around...I feel the same...way too much at stake to blow it because of bad habits (dealing with coffee and cigs on physical plane...don't want to manifest any more demons!). To make sure it doesn't become a habit of accepted failure, I am going to approach it as a method I have to develop until I find something that works for me, rather than keep trying a single method that doesn't quite give me an exit. Reading everyone else's posts, especially those of senior members that are helping the rest of us, I get the sense there are more than "9 ways to skin this cat"! I'll use Robert's basic ROPE program...have had noticeable gains using this, and I'm going to incorporate his NEW techniques for energy raising...have had good results with his treatise when I went through that...CFT's advice on energy body loosening makes sense and I am going to incorporate that as well in my trial runs. I had a witch many years ago say I am to help people...years before that, an Indian sage told me pretty much the same thing, and more recently, I have tried automatic writing, and kept getting "learn OBE...you must learn so you may help others"...I gotta get myself empowered...kinda like the old adage, "Physician, heal thyself!"

Cool, can you point me at the link for the OTHER energy raising techniques? i could use those

**GRANT** · 12th February 2012, 03:22 PM

Have you experienced the severe vibration waves? If so, try to pull yourself out at one of the peaks.
Grant

**Harry Shirton** · 13th February 2012, 05:43 PM

RF...energy raising techniques? If you just google "Robert Bruce NEW Treatise", you should be able to locate it...here's the link for his NEW energy raising:
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/i...nloads/new.pdf
I went through the whole excercise, and do the daily regimen at least three times a day...was pretty cool...could feel all the sensations he said to expect...
Grant...have hit the vibrations once or twice...more years ago when I first found Robert's ROPE technique...I'm working on getting to that trance state right now, rather than trying to do the whole exit thing (thanks to advice by CFT, who is no doubt reading this and nodding her head saying, "Yes, that's right...don't burn out on too early an exit attempt")
Harry
"Somebody told me how frightening it was how much topsoil we are losing each year, but I told that story around the campfire and nobody got scared."

**rf396** · 13th February 2012, 11:00 PM

Thanks Harry!

**CFTraveler** · 13th February 2012, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by rf

OTHER energy raising techniques?

Did you mean 'other' as in 'not the various body circuits in NEW'?

**rf396** · 14th February 2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by CFTraveler

Did you mean 'other' as in 'not the various body circuits in NEW'?

Actually CF yes I did. But the link was interesting. Oddly enough my decreased vibrations have returned and are even a bit more intensense in localized areas where it will actually make my body parts twitch theyve been so strong...weird

**CFTraveler** · 14th February 2012, 10:06 PM

Well, energy raising modalities are various- you can do raising in Yoga in specific poses (not being an expert I'll let others be more specific), and there is the Microcosmic Orbit (there is a link in the Energy forum dedicated to it), and I sometimes do something I call 'Cobra Breathing" which I actually derived from the Full-body circuit but it's not really.
How I do it is to imagine my head area is large like an enraged cobra (you know, how they extend the flaps and make the head large), inhale and imagine that the energy is going in though your circular head area, and on the exhale direct the energy down your face, chest and belly chakras all the way to the subnavel storage area, and do it again.
I'm pretty sure Taichi and QiGong have energy raising techs also.