A newbie needs help!!

[Johnthelegoman]

I've been very intrested in lucid dreaming meditation and obe for the last 4 or 5 months
And havnt found one solid place to help me in my quest.

I have been trying to obe from sleep paralysis and have recently felt the pre obe vibrations but have not yet consciously projected.

Could someone please give me a good guide to read that is free.

Also when trying to reach sleep paralysis I know you are not supposed to move but I know some thing are ok like breathing. What about swallowing as my mouth salivates a lot for some reason when I try to do this. Is it just another test of my body like an itch or rollover sensation? Should I just not swallow? Will I drown?


Thanks very much I'k advance I hope this is a forum I can frequent and the users are mature and friendly

[CFTraveler]

Hi John.
Do you mean project from the aware state, as you go into deep trance, or do you mean from waking up from sleep? (which would describe the state of sleep paralysis).
If you mean the first one there are various techniques stickied here in the OBE R & D forum, or, in the MAP subsection, there is a schedule you can follow, using the techs for reference, and there is also Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection especially the section on Projection Training.

You can do anything to get yourself comfortable. It is indeed ok to move if you need to, simply get back to your comfortable position. And by all means, forget about all the 'can't do's involved with your body- they are self defeating. If you take a gander at all the links that I provided you'll figure out why.

Either way, I hope we can help.

[Johnthelegoman]

Hi John.
Do you mean project from the aware state, as you go into deep trance, or do you mean from waking up from sleep? (which would describe the state of sleep paralysis).
If you mean the first one there are various techniques stickied here in the OBE R & D forum, or, in the MAP subsection, there is a schedule you can follow, using the techs for reference, and there is also Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection especially the section on Projection Training.

You can do anything to get yourself comfortable. It is indeed ok to move if you need to, simply get back to your comfortable position. And by all means, forget about all the 'can't do's involved with your body- they are self defeating. If you take a gander at all the links that I provided you'll figure out why.

Either way, I hope we can help.

I mean when I'm going to bed at night. I try to not move so my body will fall asleep and my mind is still awake

[CFTraveler]

Yes, that would be deep trance. The links I provided should point you in the right direction.

[Johnthelegoman]

Wow thank you so much for all those links and your helpful reply. I'm going to read up and hopefully be posting here again soon with tales of my success or for more help

[CFTraveler]

We'll be here.

[Johnthelegoman]

When I. Lose my eyes to relax I hear a constant ringing in my head and ears. Is this a medical problem of could it be something else. I feel like sometimes if prevents me from tuneing in to the world around me

[CFTraveler]

No, it's what happens when you tune out other noise. It's normal but if it gets to be too loud you may have tinnitus, especially if you're on antibiotics or have a cold. More than likely it's just that you noticed what is always there. Most of the time you don't hear it because of ongoing ambient sound, and when you concentrate on getting quiet, it becomes more obvious. I actually use this to project when I do my projection attempts, simply by listening to it on purpose and trying to actively mentally separate the tones in the hiss-usually at the end of my routine, when I've already achieved a level of trance.

[Johnthelegoman]

Wow that makes some good sense thank you!!


Ive read a lot of the info you provided there's a lot to take in so im taking it slow. I did a meditation to try to activate my chakras like one of the readings said and want to know the possibility of me actually feeling something that first time.

I read it can happen but don't know if I was just feeling things

I followed the steps and kind of had my own visualsations for the process and at each charka as I moved through them one by one I had a feeling that grew and grew it felt tingly kind of like I was hungry when it was in my stomach and it went all the way up to my throat and felt "white" I'd say them when I got to my crown everything felt different like I was high on drugs or something it freaked me out so I got up and when standing I felt very light maybe it was just because I was very relaxed because I was

Shortly after getting up the hungry feeling was gone so I really dot think it was hunger and I kind of slowly felt
more and more normal

I will continue to try to raise my energy levels hopefully this was a good sign and shows I'm doing something right. I am very eager to project

[CFTraveler]

Yep, I do think you're doing something right. Good job.