Nursing babies

**susan** · 31st May 2014, 05:28 PM

I need now to attempt to understand what the above post was about, but first,

Similarities.

1) Floating through a dimly lit department store.
2) Prior hints to an event about to take place.
3) floating down to the ground and floating instead of walking.
4) The locker room/ changing room and both times a reference to a teacher. ( Harry potter type dream. Page 12, (9/9/13) )
and the beautiful feathered sky which I felt was protection at the end .( page 22 '( 29/01/14)
All three involving locker rooms and leaving me with the same amazement.
5) the massive window/glass wall and looking down/out at amazement at what was below. ( Harry potter)
6) Losing consciousness just shortly after arriving down below. ( Harry potter).
7) Non human form characters looking like star trek characters.

So reading some of Kurts beliefs.

A) everything you see is an image your mind has supplied for an energy perceived on the astral plane.
B) all environments in non physical reality are made of consciousness/ energy/ information.
C) aliens perceived are conscious beings ( robots) of a simulation that can report back to teacher. ( a good sign that the inner senses are working)

From this I strongly feel that the previous post was a simulation due to the star trek characters. I had been given prior hints that an event was approaching. The story to the event took me to think that I had finally been taken to meet a guide as I have sent many requests to do.The problem here is that I am starting to use my senses more and when I've experienced shadowy figures , fun balls,or fun space men, i have sensed how they wanted to be perceived male presence or female. I've felt either fun from them or a fondness from them and towards them. Even when I perceived a space station and met with the alien type men the main person came across as a male and I felt much fondness from him. ( he was a genuine I'm sure) If this woman posted above was a guide I felt nothing.
So I have to think what was this for.?
I think the large window was the exit out of the simulation into the astral plane.( kurt gives a similar example)
I believe what I experienced once leaving the simulation was astral and boy were they having fun. The same I believe happened with the harry potter event and once again they were having so much fun down below.

End of dream this morning I'm going to the telephone and have to make two calls to two Nuns.

**susan** · 2nd June 2014, 08:29 PM

Bit more homework on Kurt's advice on the chakra systems and developing inner senses has opened my eyes to just how much help we get guiding us through the learning and development process.
I know I've had a few OBEs that could have frightened me if I had let them but luckily I knew these had to be tests. The one that had me plummeting to and through the ground was a corker . I hope the fear issue is maybe dealt with.

A year ago I experienced a contact with a shadowy energy during an OBE which was in the corner of the room whilst the characters were talking to me in a doctors room.
( I had a condition that I thought was more serious than it was at the time, and during this OBE the characters talked to me telling me the doctor didn't want to see me yet, it was hormonal and my blood was diamond.) At the end of their chat this shadowy figure came up and sat next to me and opened a book and told me to look. I felt much warmth from him and fondness and sympathy. It then ended.
Due to Kurt's writing on inner senses coming into play I've done a recap of journal to see when some of these senses were starting to show.

24/3/13 elderly lady who had died but was perceived by me at first as she may have been thought of by people in physical.

7/4/13. Mushroom. This grew in size and as I put my ear to it it was singings with a beautiful soft voice and I just knew it was for teaching young geography. ( could young refer to souls training in school like conditions?)

21/4/13 sensing these were friends.

16/8/13 OBE working out at the time that the person who looked like my mother wasnt

17/9/13. Moses basket, shadowy figure but knew it was a woman.
Within this same story the book that told a story, feelings of emotion.

22/10/13 Recalled as a dream but described a smoky grey cloud coming towards me which I knew was a truck.

6/4/14. OBE. Perceived a shadow in what I took to be my bedroom ( thought to be RTZ by me) . The shadow gave me a thought
that he wanted to see me.

14/5/14. Seen as big round balls but got the thought and impression of young men rolling out of a pub just having a laugh.( I saw
them as balls first then saw how I felt they wanted me to also see them )

29/5/14. Finally the last OBE seeing the Star Trek like characters ( aliens)

**susan** · 5th June 2014, 03:28 PM

During this review of the journal something else has got my attention.

4/3/14
I seemed to be getting instructions on spinning chakras.

18/4/14
Much celebration at an airport terminal with a famous celebrity and I was given a special green coat.( every one else was given
black.)
22/4/14
During the semi wake stage deciding to do some NEWS saw a square take shape with 4 inside
Also picked up " the heart chakra is now open".

Could this last one have been letting me know that the heart chakra (4th) ) was now open because I just didn't get it the first
time when given a green coat 4 days previously ?

Yesterday morning picked up upon wakening " your Peter Pan, that I am " this sounded a lovely gentle voice.

The wording is I think to get me thinking .

1) Your Peter Pan .........could suggest this person is taking ME out and about

2) """""""""""""""" ..........could suggest I AM Peter Pan.

3) """""""""""""""". ........ could suggest This Person and Me are the same.

I go with 3. Especially after the OBE where the hand was wearing my old wedding ring.

There is such a lovely mystery to knowing there are parts of you you don't know ( at present) and this person has a lovely way
of surprising me. I just love it.
There is a very distinct difference between another communication that comes through that called itself " My Infinate
Father"
This morning this person came through and had a stronger more masculine tone almost. Advice was given in symbols
which was very relevant to physical ( been over spending a bit and feeling a bit guilty,) saw a tiny white purse and heard
" Treasures are found in here" I knew what it meant and thought it through when I heard " Another time" and immediately
saw the front of my I pad with a red square flash up in the right hand corner saying Congratulations Your a Winner.
I just knew this meant that I was right in my interpretation.

Something I forgot to record just incase it links in to anything in the future .
I saw me standing at a table with different sheets of drawings and gave them to a man. He gave me one back and asked me to look at it and tell him what I see. ( I knew that I hadn't drawn it)
It was a hedgehog being held so you could see the underneath of it. But instead of the body of a hedgehog it was a man.
( don't think there was anymore to that)

All that's coming to mind at the moment is a man with thorns on him( his head) Jesus.
Previously, I had to call two nuns,
In the past I've picked up a man looking like Jesus with his hands in the prayer position sitting at a table.
The beautiful Christmas tags with loving religious faces on them.
I think we are constantly being encouraged to raise our thoughts to a higher level.

**susan** · 8th June 2014, 03:41 PM

Done bit more homework on Kurt Leland's understanding of developing Relational Senses. This maybe useful for me to have here to see where I am or not with these to save opening his book for future experiences.
But first up to now.

RELATIONAL SENSES.
These senses will allow projectors to the astral planes and higher to interact with the beings we
encounter providing us with non physical social skills which in turn helps us to know who are friends are.

1st). Co- operation.
When this is worked on and understood it enables us to meet and communicate with non physical entities .
He notes that FEAR must be overcome in the non physical reality,pointing out that many projectors enter with fear of
the unknown and entities they encounter ( not being able to distinguish between friend or foe) therefore as thought
creates experience travellers often create their own chaotic terrifying realities.

2nd). Vibration.
( one of the most important inner senses for astral travellers)
Our consciousness reaches out to others. Vibrational senses allows us to register and translate the information
about the consciousness we have encountered, pointing out that Munroe calls this process receiving Indents and
Leadbeater calls this Mystic Cords.

3rd) Communication.
This he writes allows us to converse telepathically with non physical entities .However our level of spiritual development
determines what we can understand from them, noting that if this skill is not working the message may come across as
** garbled and unintelligible .

4th). Information.
Seth describes this as the ability to understand and appreciate information in its entirety all at once.
( thought being information)
** Development of this allows us to recognise thought forms as conscious entities allowing us to receive
messages between communicators.

5th) Permeation
This is described as completely merging with another being so every aspect of consciousness blends with the
other being, experiencing the world from that beings perspective without loosing you own identity.

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Thoughts.

Co- operation.
So once again pointing out that fear has to be addressed and it has been by me. I wondered at times why the yellow flies kept cropping up but that explains why. Done with.....forget...( I hope) I didn't instigate these flies as I wasn't frightened at the time so this shows we are being helped from the other side.

Vibration.
I think these are coming into play slowly . Examples of shadows and knowing what they are and are telling me is starting to show through.

Communication.
*** I think the bathroom 6/4/14, where the shadow I perceived conveyed a message that he wanted to see me in the bathroom and then I saw as clear as I can see in physical now two people.The man spoke rubbish, garbled. The woman I picked up what she was telling me by thought. I believe I still have a long way to go with this but am working on it in non physical.

Information.
*** If I have understood this as written under this heading above, then could this man have been a thought form relaying the message from( the shadow) ( guide) that I am working on and needing to develop these abilities.
But then I have to think to myself why didn't he just let me know because I picked up thoughts from the female ( thought form) and from him? Maybe I just had to work it out myself, like I have just now. ( or not)
A reminder to myself that Kurt says Never be afraid to get it wrong. As time goes on if I come to a different conclusion I'll just ad an edit.

Permeation.
Definately not there yet.

Just need to note that whenever I've recalled OBEs I have never recorded me speaking to them , but then apart from feeling someone was behind me and the space station then it does seem that they are getting closer. ( was told this)

**susan** · 8th June 2014, 08:19 PM

Just want to add here something that I didn't record because I found it embarrassing and thought people would think I had a problem on physical , but I've always noted that I want spirit to understand I'm using the Betty Bethard's interpretation to dreams incase I have problems interpreting. I feel by now I should be interpreting my self but sometimes I have to look up something which seems strange.
The day after spending a full day ( Sunday ) attempting to understand the chakra system and inner senses , that night I dreamt.
............I'm in a dormitory at the far end with two friends at the other side. At the side of them was a famous personality sitting upright on his bed.
( here goes.... He was talking to his Penis. I didn't hear what he said just that he was talking to this part of him. )
He got up and left. By now I've gone over to my two friends where they tell me I couldn't have done my job whilst he was doing that.
As I watch him leaving the dormitory My attention goes to the back of his shorts. ( am thinking " I like his shorts")
End of memory of dream
Now through the day I had been having a problem with snails eating the leaves to my young cucumber plants and through the day had found two snails that appeared to be connecting with each other. I was wondering if this was them mating.
Looked up Betty Bethard's interpretation of my dream and one sticks out as .." Impregnation of ideas."
So the heavy thinking I spent that day trying to work out meaning and understanding could imply that If I had been working I couldn't have spent the time working on this.
I'd recently cut a little work to give me more spare time.( it's called getting older and not wanting to work so much)
Back to the shorts. For some reason my attention was drawn to the back view of his shorts to comment that I liked his shorts.
I think I was to note that they were clean . ( I was getting it and understanding the messages)
The reason I say this is because a dream I didn't record here had a famous personality walk away and from his back view his coat had widened and was soiled.( contamination) (I'm not getting the message ! )
......this is harder than doing a degree course.!!

**IA56** · 9th June 2014, 06:44 AM

Hi Susan,
I just want to say that the feelings you get from your dreams are the pointers what to work on inside of you...as you say here, you did not want to record because of the imbarresment of the dream and what may the people think...shame and guilt, and you want to be accepted therefore you do not dare to be truthful, you rather lie or not tell all or the truth to be accepted or not to be rejected...so these are the common thems in everyones inner...fear of all kind of things. We just want to be accepted and included...so it is hard to free us from these bonds, but if we do it in love then I am sure it will not harm anyone, I have done it the most awful way you can imagen...said to my family to leave me alone...because they just do not listen, and I am too fragile and need so much peace and alone time...and when I want to bond now they do not, and I can´t blame anyone but me...but I do understand why I have done as I have done...so I hope I do not offend you with my right forward words...I just do not know how to say it more diplomaticly...

So more about how you can get more knowing from your dreams...it is to know your better...like the snails for example..snails are in the soile (ground) furtilising the soile, and very needed ones for making the ground soile more fertile so to speak...this is one example...so do you like gardening?? if you do then it is very clear example how you get your symbols, because all symbols we get is very personal, and just coming for our understanding so to speak, and therefore for others is more hard to help to uncode someones dreams, but some help it is others point of views can get one pointed in right direction so to speak.

Love
ia

**susan** · 9th June 2014, 05:14 PM

Hi, IA, thanks for your input. I just want to clear up a couple of points from your post.
Yes I did feel embarrassed with the dream, even at my age . The problem was at the time I didn't understand it's meaning. I often think of the implications of a post before writing incase I receive a hurtful response. I don't need to be liked, I just don't want to be hurt. I am very sensitive but that isn't a problem for me because I just stay away from any situation that may upset the peace.
I don't post all my experiences. Only the ones I need to think through or feel could be important to remember or just want to remember. Sometimes it's so obvious as to the meaning so it's....Okay , yes I get it. Not worth posting. For me when things get a little ...Wow...OMG.. it helps when I go back a few years into people's journals and see similarities when they had a lot going on being recorded. Outofbodydude 's journal ( I read some of it today ) and it's really good. It helped to read one where he was aware someone was behind him when travelling and saw the arm. ( had similar) also he later suggested that this may have been his higher self.
So what I'm experiencing at the moment , looking back at the older journals , most have been there done it got the tee shirt.( really don' t like that expression)
By the way, the snails weren't in my dream. They were on my patio in the back garden.
Always appreciate your input IA.

**IA56** · 9th June 2014, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by susan

Hi, IA, thanks for your input. I just want to clear up a couple of points from your post.
Yes I did feel embarrassed with the dream, even at my age . The problem was at the time I didn't understand it's meaning. I often think of the implications of a post before writing incase I receive a hurtful response. I don't need to be liked, I just don't want to be hurt. I am very sensitive but that isn't a problem for me because I just stay away from any situation that may upset the peace.
I don't post all my experiences. Only the ones I need to think through or feel could be important to remember or just want to remember. Sometimes it's so obvious as to the meaning so it's....Okay , yes I get it. Not worth posting. For me when things get a little ...Wow...OMG.. it helps when I go back a few years into people's journals and see similarities when they had a lot going on being recorded. Outofbodydude 's journal ( I read some of it today ) and it's really good. It helped to read one where he was aware someone was behind him when travelling and saw the arm. ( had similar) also he later suggested that this may have been his higher self.
So what I'm experiencing at the moment , looking back at the older journals , most have been there done it got the tee shirt.( really don' t like that expression)
By the way, the snails weren't in my dream. They were on my patio in the back garden.
Always appreciate your input IA.

Hi Susan,
Yes I understand, no-one want to be hurt, but sometime there is no alternative as far as I understand, and I am therefore very sorry if my blunt straight forward does hurt, I just do not know how to say things gently...I want to learn, because I do not ever want to hurt anyone, but I do it often because I do not know how to communicate gently.
Oh was the snails on your pation, that is really a straight forward manifestation...wow...
But that fear you have we all have, and I do often think...how can we communicate and say just as things are, and happens...yet we tend to not say it all, and we do twist and swirle them so I get dizzy in my head and feel like I am in a merry go around

I hope I do not scare you away and make you write less, if I am that enoying I am ready to stop writing or responding to your writing, I want you to feel secure and free in your expressions.

Love
ia

**susan** · 9th June 2014, 06:21 PM

IA, please you have not offended me in any way and I don't think you ever will because I know that what you write Is written from the heart and with such sincerity.
But you've got me laughing. The snails! They were two live snails I was watching in physical life on my patio. The fact that they ( I think ) were mating had me wonder if me having been watching them had anything to do with the dream until I got the true meaning.

**IA56** · 9th June 2014, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by susan

IA, please you have not offended me in any way and I don't think you ever will because I know that what you write Is written from the heart and with such sincerity.
But you've got me laughing. The snails! They were two live snails I was watching in physical life on my patio. The fact that they ( I think ) were mating had me wonder if me having been watching them had anything to do with the dream until I got the true meaning.

Now I am laughing, becasue the word snail I thought it to be a worm...haha....did my misstake help you at all?? but snail now when I know what it is...the worms who live in soil...they do not mate...it was that what made me to look up the word...sorry.

Snail mating...making more deley??...are you??

Love
ia