Siddhis from 5th Chakra and Abilities from Other Chakras?

[WanderingNomad]

Thanks again, I will try that tonight and see if I can get the rest of the lower chakras to feel like the 5th and 6th, my heart chakra always feels active but the first and second ones are really hard to do anything with, I've found that making psi balls uses the third chakra a lot though....

so is it possible that my mispronunciation was why I wasn't getting all the lower ones too ?

[Tom]

The energy goes where it is needed most. It will change over time with use of the mantra. It is possible that you are feeling some of the chakras more than others because that is where the energy is currently going and something is working its way through. The next thing may or may not be with your first and second chakras. Pronouncing the mantra correctly is a good idea - that was my reason for downloading that song - but your intent is more important. A lot of mantras were brought from India to Tibet and in addition to errors in copying them, transliterating them from Sanskrit to Tibetan was a real problem. There was a story I read which would be perfect here:

http://www.purifymind.com/DailyPra.htm

"If a practitioner has strong faith, then even if they make some mistake they will still receive benefits. Once in India there was a famine in which many people died. One old woman went to see her Spiritual Guide and said `Please show me a way of saving my life.' Her Spiritual Guide advised her to eat stones. The woman asked `But how can I make stones edible?', and he replied `If you recite the mantra of the Goddess Tsunda you will be able to cook the stones.' He taught her the mantra, but he made a slight mistake. He taught OM BALE BULE BUNDE SÖHA, instead of OM TZALE TZULE TZUNDE SÖHA. However, the old woman placed great faith in this mantra and, reciting it with concentration, she cooked stones and ate them. This old woman's son was a monk and he began to worry about his mother, and so he went home to see her. He was astonished to find her plump and well. He said `Mother, how is it that you are so healthy when even young people are dying of starvation?' His mother explained that she had been eating stones. Her son asked `How have you been able to cook stones?', and she told him the mantra that she had been given to recite. Her son quickly spotted the mistake and declared, `Your mantra is wrong! The mantra of the Goddess Tsunda is OM TZALE TZULE TZUNDE SÖHA.' When she heard this the old woman was plunged into doubt. She tried reciting both the mantras but now neither of them would work because her faith was destroyed."

[WanderingNomad]

I had never heard of anything like that pretty surprising *looks at rocks on the ground and smiles* I did try the syllables that you said, whether it was just that particular chakra's turn to be activated I do not know, but I did feel my earth chakra for the first time in quite a while.

[Aunt Clair]

Thanks Tom et al . I learned a lot from this thread . I love mantras and was not familiar with this one . I appreciate your lengthy explanations and links .

[Zak]

Wow, coincidence?...

I just got back from a life altering trip to Egypt which I am writing a long post about and will post sometime tomorrow if anyone is interested...

The thing is, is our group had this eccentric egyptologist tour guide. He really took to me and was so open hearted that our whole group absolutely loved him. He was into sound healing and encouraged us to sing and tone at the temples we were at. He would also chant Om Namah Shivaya off and on throughout the day. I would always join in with him nd he's just smile at me and say words of encouragement about my path in life.

He would sing the words in a little four line phrase to a tune which isn't like the one in the song although it is a very great song :p

Om Namah Shivaya
Om Namah Shivaya
Om Namah Shivaya
Shiva Om Namah

I guess it's kinda hard to get the sense of the tune as I don't know if I can figure out the notation...

This seems easier to memorize than the long complicated song :p But the fact that it's a tune get's you "tuned" into to it a lot deeper and I find it automatically starts in my head and continues without much effort whereas a mantra can become almost chore-like.

I'll try recording it and putting it on here, maybe tomorrow...

[Chris_com28]

I'm still trying to remember to remeber the mantra. So do you have any personal experience with the mantra, Tom?

[Tom]

Sometimes I'll be in a mood to work with a mantra, but you really get the results from a mantra you have to be willing to put in the time to repeat the mantra at least 100,000 times and if you are really serious about it, at least 1,000,000 times. We aren't talking about seeing how fast you can spit the words out, either, although you will tend to get faster at it with time. You have to say it each time with as much of your attention as you can put into it while keeping the purpose of the mantra in mind the whole time. The more you can learn about the mantra as you practice with it, the better. It will help to maintain your enthusiasm for the practice. Generally you will want to say the mantra at least 1,000 times every day so you can get through it in a couple of years. You will start to get results in a month or two. I'm doing good if I say a mantra 1,000+ times at all the first week total. It just isn't my thing. I prefer to sit still and be quiet when I meditate and if I were to take up a mantra it would be while riding the bus, going to the grocery store, or at work doing my job - and it is hard to count out mantra repetitions that way. I've considered making a recording of myself saying a mantra that I can say the mantra along with, so that when the recording ends I can just add however many of them to my total that was on the recording, but even then I can see myself for whatever reason not saying them all along with the recording and not knowing how many I actually said. If I'm going to say the mantra I want it to be for a specific purpose and not being able to really count them all is the main obstacle to my choosing to do the practice. It is not good enough for me to just estimate a calendar date when I can assume I am ready to switch to a different mantra.

[Zak]

That's really interesting to hear Tom. I'll keep that in mind for my later practices with IIH.

I can nw see how much the unballanced or neative mantras have an effect on us and the way we are as people. Things like "I'm not good enough to..." or "I feel sick because..." are definetly the ones to weed out of unconscious repetition!

[sono]

Thank you for reminding me about that mantra & for the link posted to the mp3. . . I have just listened to it & feel energy prickling up & down my entire body. I have been using the Guru Rinpoche mantra for the past few weeks, but for some reason have felt very depressed.

Previously, I have used the maha mantra; then Om shri rama, jaya ram jaya jaya ram; om shri ganapataye namah & the Tibetan Om mani (or masi ) peme hung; but for an instant energy sensation nothing has come close to the Om namah shivaya. Some people from Hindu tradtions might have been put off the Siva mantra by being taught that Shiva is on an intermediary plane, below Krishna as the supreme deity. . . but it really is worth investigating for oneself.

Thanks again!

[Zak]

Something I learned from a workshop on sound healing I attended recently...

Om mani padme hum has 2 different pronunciations even when both written this way. As far as I can tell they both do a fairly similar thing though. The following are the pronounciations:

Vedic or Indian version- Om ma-nee pad-may hoom

Tibetan version- Om ma-nee pay-may hung

This was told to us by Lama Tashi http://chantmaster.org/ who was a co-facilitator at this workshop. He's a very interesting monk and unfotunately non of his samples are currently up on his web page to hear his incredible voice. He is the ex-head of the Dalai Lama's chant choir at Drepung Monastery in India.