One series of steps to begin Metaphysical Pathworking

[Aunt Clair]

Thank you Zak .

... I don't know what you mean about paying her $900 as the course was only $450.

for the 2 units as listed above it is 6 days for 900$

You say you disagree with people charging for money for work that involves connecting with beings of wisdom and channeling information for people.

Most certainly I do . If the aspirant will sit in meditation ,the teachers will appear for free in light & love . These teachers ask nothing except for us to also do the same to share in love & light, for free .
"In asmuch as it has been given freely to you "..

Would you also disagree with people who run a healing practice and make money doing that?

Yes I do . You asked me in PM about Robert . He refuses money for healing or for providing advice about protection against negs .He charges for his books and workshops although his basic tutorials and treatises are provided for free .

It takes little time to heal , one can work at another job to support oneself.I do .I worked as a schoolteacher , I have worked as a single parent and still managed to heal , assist in exorcisms , and teach meditation for free . I believe in volunteer service . And I feel if one charges to teach spirit communication that they hit a plateau becoming less able and not moving forward to continue development .

Humans can give sexual satisfaction as lovers for free or they may charge as prostitutes . Humans can hug , smile and encourage for free or charge as escorts .

Healers use universal energy and help from spirit teachers and angels .Charging for healing this way is considered immoral by many , I agree.
Humans can train as doctors and charge , that is different .The doctor uses tools and medicines . The doctor is trained by humans and as such can charge as a human .

(I must say many people who do this barely scrape by unless they have some support from a spouse for example,

I studied at university for 7 years . I accepted pay to teach at school . I refuse pay to aid a grieving parent , to send healing to an ill person , or to read a sitter or to remove a neg .

Lori herself doesn't even own a car)

Not owning a car does not mean she lives modestly though , the rich may choose to hire drivers and limosines .But I do not know her net worth , perhaps she lives modestly or on meager means . But I still feel that charging for teaching what must be learned by experience is wrong . It is like charging for air or to teach how to breathe , it seems so very wrong in my heart. But , it is not my business, it is your money and her business and yours .

In my humble opinion I see this work that we all do wether it be healing or channelling or mediumship to be of benefit to other people. It is part of the transformation we are all helping to create in this world which is presently going through change for the better.

I agree .

If you were to invest a large portion of your time for a certain number of years to developing these abilities wether they be healing, channelling or clairvoyance is it such a crime to ask people for money to help support yourself so you have more time to develop these abilities and then further you abilitie to help other people help themselves, and help others from then on etc etc?

You are asking the wrong person . I have developed and learned . I have studied most earnestly these last 11 years devoting time to teach 3 to 5 times a week and to kearn daily .I am expert in a number of metaphysical areas . I continue to learn , to share and to teach, for free .

The teachings from spirit is free yes and we should all start at a place of practice where we do readings for free to gain exprience. But like a mechanic who has gone through school or prenticeship to get this free knowledge he must get people to pay him for his work or else he has to work under someone else as his main job and then fix cars on evenings and weekends??? I hope you understand what I am getting at.

Yes I do .

Robert heals for free and advises for free . He works as a author .
I heal , exorcise , read & teach for free . I worked as a schoolteacher .
Bill heals , exorcises and teaches fir free . He works as a labourer.
Maggie heals for free . She cleans office buildings.
Andrew exorcises and teaches for free , He works as a student .
Jodie heals & teaches for free . She studies at Tafe and works as an Artist.
Tom heals & teaches for free . He worked as a merchant mariner.
Jim Booth heals for free. He retired from military & works as an author.
Jim & Jacky Lindsay heal & teach 9 classes weekly for free & are retired .
etc.

If you are in a situation wether it is you are retired or have the support of a spouse or some other means where you have ample time to pursue your interests without having to worry about paying the bills, I could see it as wonderful to be able to help people in the way that you describe.

I have worked since I was 14 years old . I was retired medically in 2005 from Muliple Sclerosis and severe spinal degeneration . It makes no difference . As a single parent in poverty, I still volunteered . As a married partner , I volunteered .

I began to volunteer in the community at 9 years old when I taught ESOl kids to read and taught polio crippled kids to swim with me . I believe as do my peers that it is by service , we grow . If one makes excuses they are just that, excuses. I have never not volunteered since learning the joy of service .

I volunteered as ;
Swim Instructor
Special Ed Tutor
Free Clinic Worker
Nursing Home entertainer
Wheels for homebound Driver
Gallery Attendent
Science Center docent
CF Swimmer
MS Walker
Spec Ed Olympics Hugger
Homeless Shelter Meals & Movies
Suicide line counselor
Peer Crisis officer
Firefighter
CPR instructor
Emergency Medical tech
Retreat Facilitator
CCD Teacher
Reiki Healer
Meditation Teacher
Spiritual Teacher
Assistant Exorcist
and many more . The point is there are many opportunities to serve and many needs to fill . Through service we grow . By being generous we prosper .It does not cost us to volunteer the rewards are greater than our sacrifice of time and energy .

But it is the perogative of the spiritual psychic , healer , teacher or medium to charge . And the perogative of the aspirant to pay .

Regarding the psychic self defense we can save that debate for another time, I am still eploring it myself and as you pointed out I definetly do not have the same experience as Robert or Bill.

Thanks Zak for your polite discussion.