The other day I read an OBE book, Out of Body exploring by Preston Dennet I think, and he mentioned a mantra he read about from Samael Aun Wor: guom-ruom-om-bour-bur-mama-papa... yeah... sounds funny. They say it is good for turning a lucid dream into an OBE. I tried it last night while having a lucid moment in a dream but it didn't seem to work. Anyone else ever try anything like that? Are specific mantras really that "magical"? Naturally, it's all about belief, but doesn't other people's belief count too?