the science of the astral plain

U-Mos · 7th October 2007, 07:48 AM

so theres something thats been bugging me for a wile. i have no consept on how the astral plain is connected to the physical world expecally when the idea of string theory and all those different diminutions come into play

though im now confused on what the dimensions are like except for the 11th which taking a firm grasp on that idea loosens the one that was produced wile watching imaging the 10 dimension. oh well what is there to do? any ways that imaging the 10th dimension was a bit too sci fi from the beginning. i seem to have a nack for this. i would like to chat with michio kaku guy; he seems to be a little off his rocker for me.

the question is, how is the universe and the astral plains modeled, related, connected and such

kiwibonga · 7th October 2007, 08:16 AM

I'm not sure that your question, which already contains many assumptions, can be answered without making a lot of equally dangerous assumptions...

You might want to be a bit more specific about your understanding of what the astral plane is, and perhaps we can help you complete that understanding...

U-Mos · 7th October 2007, 08:57 AM

the thing is that the concept of what i have is that the astral plain and physical world seem to be completely sepreate though there is a part that copies the physical world but that really doesn't help much.

it might just be that i dont know what the dimensions are. i'm pretty sure i got a fairly good grasp on what the astral plain and such are but i've haven't come across a constant idea of what the higher dimensions are which is throughing me off quite a bit

**CFTraveler** · 7th October 2007, 06:16 PM

My guess is that the astral planes are how the material world looks (or manifests) from a different perspective, from a different standpoint. So it's not that it's connected, but it's what it is. The way a molecule of water is different from a drop of water from the way an electron from an atom of water looks- instead of dimension, perhaps the difference is scale.
But perhaps, when you cross the barrier of the electron to the quantum particle, when it's existence as a particle becomes a matter of statistical probability, maybe 'scale' loses it's meaning, and it becomes a lot more interesting, but less definable.
But then again, this is a wild guess of mine.

orbit1 · 9th October 2007, 05:08 PM

I can't help with your specific question, but here's a cool Flash animation that helps explain the 10 dimensions:

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

**journyman161** · 10th October 2007, 01:04 AM

Think of an onion. In the centre there is a ball with a skin on it - anything living inside that skin would have a complete 'world' to experience, but pierce the skin & there is another layer, also enclosed & apparently complete. You could keep piercing skin to get out to another layer & another until finally you make it 'outside' & can view all 'Reality' from outside.

Think of the 'skin' as being a vibrational change - in our plane we exist at (say) 1MHz with a range of (say) 1kHz either side. If you could alter your innate frequency, even temporarily, to 2MHz, you'd 'see' & experience a different Universe.

An analogy in the 'real' world is this - if you could alter your eyes to see a range up above the ultraviolet, the universe out there would look different to what you see in the visible. Change your range to below infrared & it would be different again. I have a poster that shows the Milky Way in different frequencies & some of them are wildly different to what we see & being able to use other frequencies has yielded valuable information we didn't know before. (Such as the galactic collision currently happening just the other side of the central bulge)

So altering how one perceives things can change what we see; is it too big a leap to see that if we can change our basic perceptive levels, we might experience something different?

**CFTraveler** · 10th October 2007, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Alex

I think what you're trying to find is some kind of connecting thread between the "astral" and "physical" planes.
The problem with this is that you are treating "astral" and "physical" as seperate things.

That's what I was trying to say, but the words weren't as clear.

U-Mos · 11th October 2007, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by orbit1

I can't help with your specific question, but here's a cool Flash animation that helps explain the 10 dimensions:

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

actually thats the one thats throughing me off cause there are recent brake through that make that obsoleat, it even has a discamer at the end

kiwibonga · 11th October 2007, 11:31 AM

The 10 dimensions flash tries to fit together time and space... it has absolutely nothing to do with anything remotely tangible or actually observed, and it certainly has nothing to do with astral projection... It's a method to try and understand how to represent more than 3 dimensions in your brain, but then again, it's just one person's understanding of it all... And it's not the most logical one, IMO...

It's probably best to ignore it altogether for now...

**CFTraveler** · 11th October 2007, 11:41 AM

That's the problem with New Age- that for some reason at some point the word 'dimension' was assigned a meaning completely different that the meaning physics has assigned to it. A dimension is a way to measure spacetime, not a series of parallel or sequential regions in space, which sounds more like what new agey people (myself included) use to describe regions that may be part of spacetime but most probably aren't.
I don't know what the aswer to this is- create a new term? 'Astral plane' is something that many reject as too 'mistic-y' and 'focus of consciousness' is too subjective IMHO.
So maybe we should have a contest on the creating of a new term for this?