Originally Posted by
vtownzach
Because everywhere I've researched astral projecting said to do it you have to lay down, in a comfortable position, and relax your whole body, and clear your mind. ( I know that's a very quick explination of how to do it but I just don't wanna type the whole process) I CONSTANTLY have a song or thought running through my mind...it's almost impossible to clear it. I've tried meditation and it don't work.
And like I said, I've done the vibration thing, and when I have that, everything stops and I'm back to normal.
Well, how Robert teaches AP'ing, is something along these lines:
Relaxation techniques (progressive muscle relaxation)
Energy raising (gives more control over energy body, more energy to 'take off' and projections to last longer, and it's a good meditative technique in general)
Breathing exercises- For cleansing, meditative and trance purposes
Trance work (to get into a trance, or to deepen the trance)
Energy body loosening (self explanatory)
Exit techniques- to be started once some sort of exit symtom happens.
If you follow a practice like this (in general) you will not have to worry about 'emptying your mind' or 'keeping it quiet' because the meditative techniques keep your mind occupied doing 'nonverbal things' which is the real impediment to a lucid trance, which is what you're trying to achieve.
Most people believe that a quiet mind means 'no thought', but the problem is 'monkey chatter', that is verbal thoughts, and the techniques help conquer this- the problem is that most of us really can't 'stop thinking' without years of meditative practice- but 'having thoughts' doesn't keep you from projecting, worrying about it is what causes the problem.
My advice to you is not to worry about this recurring thinking, and instead make it part of your routine- put 'thinking' in the list and give yourself time to do it. And when it's time to 'quiet your mind', don't try to 'not think', but simply watch your thoughts and let them go- observe them as if it wasn't you who is thinking- and imagine the thoughts in balloons and just 'watch them go'. If you have a thought, just accept it and watch it go.
This is what most of us do who project regularly.
As for vibrations, they are not always what you get when you're going to project, sometimes they come earlier in the trance- so if you get them simply continue your exercises (which should be in the 'energy body loosening' stage by now), and do an exit technique, whether the vibes have stopped or not.
I don't know what you mean once I have "exit symptoms"?
Symptoms that you are ready to exit- they should be found in the topics that are stickied in the beginning of this forum "When you don't have vibrations"
"Your First Conscious Projection"
and Magickist's Vibration topic should answer your questions.
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