Has there ever been RTZ Scientific Study?

[jalef]

hmm
maybe you're right and we just need a lot more studies that proof reality so the scientific community cant ignore it any more

[qbeac]

hmm
maybe you're right and we just need a lot more studies that proof reality so the scientific community cant ignore it any more

Hi everybody, I wish you a Happy New Year 2006!!!

Hi jalef, yes, I believe so, paradigms shifts are possible if we, togehter, make them happen.

I have been updating a little bit the instructions of the Agnostic Method. You’ll find it at link:

- Method to verify if OBE are real or imaginary experiences (See Post #1 to Post #4)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20907

Also, an experienced projector whose nick is Gav has written a very good article about the RTZ (Real Time Zone) in which he gives hints, suggestions and advice about how to avoid the distortions that sometimes appear between the astral plane and the physical plane. He has already given me his permission to share his document as long as everybody observes his desire of keeping his document intact. You’ll see his “copyright instructions” at the end of his document.

This is the link:

- Gav’s Word document about the RTZ. I really encourage you to take a look at it.
http://www.future-horizons.co.uk/doc...Perception.doc

- Converstaion with Gav at lilacsky forum (you may have to register to see it).
Section: Research and Study's
Thread: Are Astral Travel and OBE real or imaginary experi
http://lilacsky.proboards39.com/inde...ead=1135185352

- Gav's comments about the experiment and the RTZ. Pag. 2, Post #9 y Post #10. Thread: "I did a RTZ verification experiment this morning"
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewt ... &&start=10

Chao. qbeac.

I'm new to this forum, and I have had some wild experiences with OBE's. I have a Parapsychology Certification from Loyd Auerbach, one of the leading Parapsychologists in the USA, and one of only a few people in the world who have a Graduate Degree in Parapsychology. Check out his website http://www.mindreader.com or Goggle him. He has become a friend of mine, and I've talked to him about his own experiences. He has had a few spontaneous OBE's and experienced a spirit walking through him when on a ghost hunting mission. He gets a zillion e-mails from people asking if their photos, videos, etc. of ghosts are real. He is one tough cookie! It takes A LOT of information and verification before he will even MAYBE say your experience was real. You think ♥♥♥♥♥ is tough? Try to prove something to Loyd, who is an actual believer. So, when I tell you Loyd has said he had an OBE, you better believe it!! He does everything he can to disprove something so that what is left has the ring of truth to it.

[CFTraveler]

I just read about half the document- awesome! A Must Read!

[qbeac]

Hi everybody,

The debate we are having in the Spanish science forum 100cia.com about OBE and AP is raising controversy. We are talking about the possibility of a scientific paradigm shift in case OBE were to be proven to be real experiences as opposed to imaginary ones. Right now many scientists from the scientific community believe they are only imaginary experiences.

So, I would like to ask all of you two very important questions regarding this topic:

1) Please, has any of you ever tried doing a GROUP OBE? That is, have you ever been able to meet with somebody else in the astral plane?

2) In case you have, what kind of information do you think you could exchange with another person in those circumstances?

For instance, could you tell that person a single “specific word” which that person could remember and report about it later? Or perhaps you could describe to that person a very specific “whatever” which that person could understand and report on it later…???

Please, we would appreciate very much if you could elaborate a little bit about this issue.

Thank you very much. qbeac.

P.S. 1. In case you would like to see the Spanish debate, these are two links to it:

- ¡ Cómo se crea un Paradigma !
http://www.100cia.com/opinion/foros/sho ... ge=1&pp=10
- Post #362, pag. 37. Definición de “Veridical NDE”
http://www.100cia.com/opinion/foros/sho ... #post41601

P.S. 2. For more information about Group OBE and other types of valid experiments, see:

- Post #3, pag.1. Types of experiments (Agnostic Method, Group OBE, telekinesis)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21581