Can an astral have s*x with someone who is in the physical

[lover454]

Dear L:
I meant to quote you and by mistake edited your post. You will find your questions in quotations. Sorry about that.

I am definitely NOT astral.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but everyone has an astral double. So you are physical and astral, and everything in between.

However, back in October 2008 I was lying on my stomach on my bed watching TV and all of a sudden I felt an invisible figure land behind me, he started to [removed unnecessary content], then had int*rcourse and then [removed unnecessary details.]. Can an Astral have sex with a non-astral.

This post reminds me of someone else. Have you posted here before?
Anyway, chances are you were in trance, and experienced your thoughts in an objective way, as in the hypnagogic state. This is not uncommon.

IT also happened quite a few times after that as well.

Also sometimes I feel someone getting into bed with me, touching me.

This kind of started when I was fantasizing about a exboyfriend, my male ex-bosses and one of my male cousins.

You probably are separating and enacting your fantasies without realizing that's what you're doing- with your own energy body, also known as astral feedback, which accounts for many of what are known as 'dweller' experiences.

There is a chance that your fantasizing in trance attracted a succubus, but I'd only suggest this if:
You orgasmed, and
You felt very crappy afterwards, exhausted for the rest of the day or the next day if it happened at night.

If you felt fine afterwards, chances are it was only astral feedback- this means that you're probably a spontaneous projector.

All of the terms I used are in the AD Pedia (in my sig) if you have any doubts.

[CFTraveler]

Here's my sig (with links to the AD pedia)______V

[wstein]

Any non-physical being with enough energy (and able to bypass your defenses in any) can have 'sex' with you. Obviously, extreme amounts of energy are required to make it physical. So, basically its an (sexual) energy interaction. Note that orgasm can be induced through purely energetic means (also possible if both are physical people).

It doesn't sound like you put up much resistance (if any) making it more or less consensual. Its possibly your own fantasy or simply a non-physical lover that stops by to see you occasionally when you are in the mood.

Its also possibly an energy stealing entity able to play on your fantasies. Although its possibly a succubus, since you offered little resistance, many other weaker entities would also be able do it.

[McArthur]

The answer to this question is yes. Robert describes somewhere of his experience of a "succubus" type entity that he saw floating near the ceiling while he was meditating and said it looked similar to a jellyfish full of colourful lights. It obviously didnt know he could see it as it then floated down to him and started to stimulate his base chakra trying to give him an orgasm in order to release chakra energy for it to feed upon.

I have not seen one in its possible original form like Robert did, but have had a lot of Succubus type experiences over the years. They are a very common occurence, especially amongst teenagers. The most recent one a few months ago I woke up OOBE(note) and a blob-like creature was sucking on my genitals. I moved my Etheric hand down to where it was and tried to push it away with my fingers... and it started sucking my fingers instead. It felt like putting my hand into soft warm rubbery jelly.

One of the more unusual ones I have experienced was when I was having a conversation with a spirit many years ago (that I stupidly thought was a "spirit guide" at the time...) and it said to me "Ecstacy!" and I suddenly felt an intense tingling sensation in my groin which resulted in an orgasm a few seconds later. It was daylight, I was fully clothed, my own hands were nowhere near my genitals, and I had no erection or ejaculation.

note: I wake up out of body quite a lot lately, which obviously saves me the effort of trying to AP. But waking up OOBE and finding something sucking on your nether regions, or having a humanoid bald-headed vampire prancing around your living room, can certainly make one wonder about how many times we all have our privacy invaded throughout the night.

[McArthur]

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[dobidou]

Succubus (from Wiki): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus

I know Wiki isn't a "real source", but so far I've looked around on website, some books, and my idea of that "deamon" is still blurry.

While I'm reading the stories of thoses who "felt" such entity when performing a meditation, I'm wondering (and I'm believing...) that thoses can also affects us in awake state.

From the Freudian analysis, that would be interesting, but I wont mention about higher-self stuff, or biological evidence that somehow fantasies can seems real, or suck our energy...

I can say I'm very sensible about who get close to me, I'm a chameleon, and still I remain my self, maybe I became a tribe of who got around me, picking the spells and attitudes I liked, I mentionned it because that is how I started to wonder about succubes.

First, it has been my nightmare, until I accepted it in my life, but then I realise that it's screwing it up.

What I feel (very personnal point of view, unless someone agree haha), it's that the "entity from the other side" (who are they, lower-us?) loves to suck our energy. But why? Stay alive? Around me, let's say in my house, EVERYTIME we got a big boom of psychic energy blowing out (I scares my kid at halloween, we pick a big fight, ect...) during almost 3 days stuff moves in the house.

I wondered about thoses fields of energy we create. Bad energy? Oh yeah sure... but what about orgams?! Orgasms are great (thoses I know lol), and can occur more often then fights (at least), could "they" eat that energy as well?

I started to think that "orgasms", when it's a transfert of energy between human, is good. But when it's alone (mast) - the energy is given away, and I'm suspecting that some low entity is sucking it

What is the problem?? Well, having an entity sucking up the energy you drop isn't too bad. The problem is when you stop feeding the beast hahaha. First, staying in a horny state, can drive someone crazy, and at same time (I experienced it) - it's the inverse then bad energy (bad energy throwed away brings poltergeist-like effects) - not feeding the "beast" gives poltergeist-like effets as well, almost saying something like "well, do it, or I will anoy you!"

This really sounds like a deamon to me, even if I denie it, if I say that it's just psychology, working on me... But all thoses poltergeist-like effects are annoying at the end. And I dont want to feel that I must feed the beast or "she" will eat me (lol).

What if you are not in any trance state. What if that succube can stimulate your chacras or brain, or else, and lead you to "do something". Has anyone though about that?

I'm affraid that while I imagine things in my fantasies, I become the reality of a succube that looks at me and suck my energy, as I simulate to steal someone else (which I dont, well, I hope) :p

[Alaskans]

having a humanoid bald-headed vampire prancing around your living room, can certainly make one wonder about how many times we all have our privacy invaded throughout the night.

Harhar
It's very interesting to hear the accounts of people who can see these occurrances so clearly. And it is good to know it is something others have exerienced as well (we can share info). I dont know why my observances would be of importance but I think I am meant to share them.

I dont know what was a lie or not, but the one hanging around me was a shapechanging ghost called Misty. According to what I experienced she was being abused by some other vampires. I tried to bring her to heaven despite all the years of abuse from her(it was an act of ultimate forgiveness for me). Some of her forms certainly seemed demon-like, but really, who doesnt want to be good and happy? I guess I wasnt capable enough cause she fell back down. I said I would help her when I complete my cultivation so long as she doesnt interfere. She broke the deal one night and consequently reached sudden oneness with the universe via sand of dissolusion. Maybe it was suicide.. Whatever it was, she was less evil when she died than when she arrived... My supernatural drama.

I came here off your other post Dobidou so I mainly wrote this post in response to you.
I dont understand some of what you said, but I think your giving her too much though, its all really pretty simple.

I know Wiki isn't a "real source", but so far I've looked around on website, some books, and my idea of that "deamon" is still blurry.

I wouldnt use the name demon, it makes her sound all powerfull, she could be lots of things, even just a thought you had that you gave energy to. Succubi are like any other vamp, they eat energy within a certain frequency. They try to get someone to produce that frequency, thats all.

Staying away from porn or any sexual visualizations- thats the best way to weaken her. Of course she will raise a fit when she gets hungry. Eventually she will get weak, loose influence, if there was any, then leave to look for a different mark. She can only take energy similar to herself, she cant stand all of your good energies.
Her influencing you to create more of the energy she likes is the reason shes no good.... women can be so controlling Trust me, you dont want that.
Theres lots of other stuff you could try, but getting rid of any sexual immages and fantasies is huge.
True, they can be powerfull, but thier weak spot is thier diet. Cut them off and they quickly loose thier power (they waste it all throwing a fit). After that there is other things that can be done to so it looses interest.

Your post is the only one I read and responded to in about half a year. And it happened to be an issue I had to explore in depth. The lumina wants me to offer advice, I hope I have given some that is helpfull.

...You know what? Why do we send energy to a "sexual" sensation? For what reason is it sexual? How is typing different from getting sucked on by a floating blob? We have brainwashed ourselves into beleiving that stroking(ect) is something more than just a sensation. Animal programming.

[CFTraveler]

I have to agree with Alaskans on this-about cutting off the 'food', and more importantly, when you are confronted by it to tell it to go away and mean it.
This worked for me, incredibly well. It sounds so simple but it works.
As for the "You know how women are" *slaps that boy silly* *piff paff*

[Alaskans]

As for the "You know how women are" *slaps that boy silly* *piff paff*

>dodge< ha ha! I knew you would try to slap me. That show comes to mind...umm.. "slapped by an angel"?

Just trying to bring the subject out of immagination land (and therefore scaryland) and more down to earth. Demon or not we run into these kinds of people on more earthly terms a lot, we dont get all scared then. Though I dont reccomend giving them an inch. Misty was weak enough to be easily controllable when I attempted to get her help. Actually, I was inspired by that doctor woman who hypnotizes the victims of negs and convinces the negs to the come to the good side. Wish I could do that.. I couldnt imagine a more righteous persuit, but alas my counceling skills suck. I went to hell once to try it and failed spectacularly, barely survived... had to pray to be sent a big guardian angel to protect my sorry butt.
We've all got adventures to tell. People wonder why we find tv booring. Wheres the blabber mouth icon CF?

[niki123]

I had this kind of experience when I was in the hypnogogic state about maybe a year ago and couldn't move or talk but I could see just fine and this man I always dream about was having sex with me but then he stopped when he saw me just lying there not being able to move and he said that he was sorry.He can't be a neg because he actually exists in RTZ.