Just because they're not conscious of it being your dream, it doesn't mean that there isn't a pyschic connection taking place, especially if the dream characters are your close friends or family with whom you have a solid rapport.
Just because they're not conscious of it being your dream, it doesn't mean that there isn't a pyschic connection taking place, especially if the dream characters are your close friends or family with whom you have a solid rapport.
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Robert Waggoner reports something similar. He was trying and failing to get a friend lucid. Eventually, he gave up and for a reason unknown to him made the peace sign with his fingers in front of her forehead. When next he saw her IRL, she put a peace sign up in his face. When he asked her why she had done that, she said she didn't know.
"A dream is a question, not an answer."
(Therapist and dreamworker Strephon Kaplan
Williams)
these are interesting examples. i'd kinda assumed that the characters dissolving in my dream, meant that they weren't actually the people i know(mum, sister etc) but simply creations of my subconscious, like the rest of them.
i'd assumed that if there were any actual dreamers/projectors/non-physical beings present, that they wouldn't dissolve.
know what i mean?
now, thinking about it, i guess even if it was my mum's, or sister's dreaming mind there, they'd have to have a certain level of lucidity to stay focused there, after i'd dissolved everybody else...
i guess i wasted an opportunity there then, by insisting so strongly and quickly. perhaps if i'd given them more time to get to grips with the concept, or simply had a conversation that was less confrontational and more familiar, they might have woken into lucidity, and truly shared the experience?...
"We are spirits in the material world" Sting. The Police.
I can't explain it either,....Either way,what you experienced afterwards was probably what you were intended to see at that time. I would love to visit a realm like that !!
Last edited by Ariel; 18th July 2011 at 04:53 AM.
or maybe we ARE indeed sharing experiences with those in our lives, more frequently than we believe?... it would make perfect sense, whether they're conscious enough to recall the events or not, it's possible the lessons involved in the dream scenarios are tailored for everyone involved, not just your/my/the dreamer's-self.
it would explain why lucidity can be such an elusive thing at times - if a scenario is set up, like a play in a theatre, each player with a set role, a set lesson to take away from it, the director wouldn't want any of the players suddenly improvising and messing up the perfectly good play, would he?
i'm now wishing i'd asked my Mum and Sister if they'd had any strange dreams that night...
"We are spirits in the material world" Sting. The Police.
I guess most dreams are not remembered because they don't seem strange to us as all. Just like the memory of any banal act carried out without much conscious attention they escape our recall soon enough. I guess so many outlandish dreams are recalled because they are considered interesting enough to do so.
Try remember to recall when you last peeled potatoes, try to remember any details about that experience...
The channelled material in Jane Robert's Dreams and Projections of Consciousness talks about this stuff. It states that you can ask all illusion to disappear and it will. It also states you can experience full and partial projections of actual people - I suppose that means that they're not lucid- as well as probable selves. The latter have split off from the original personality and gone on to live in probable worlds as a result of different decisions made at different turning points. One of Robert's friends, for example, experiences dreams where she meets Jane Roberts and her husband in a probable existence where Jane was too afraid to mess with the occult and, therefore, didn't channel Seth, and her husband was too afraid to become the artist he became. Both subsequently end up bitter people until redirected.
Kurt Leland suggests we are constantly sharing dreams with others but that our unique interpretation filters mean that the dreams take on their individual aspects, what Seth calls camouflage.
"A dream is a question, not an answer."
(Therapist and dreamworker Strephon Kaplan
Williams)
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