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SSJYamiVegeta
19th June 2005, 02:26 PM
Hey everyone! I'm new here, well sorta heh. Anyways, I am starting the book "Mastering Astral Projection" (which is really good btw) and i was reading some of Astral Dynamics. what really caught my attention was the Virtual Reality Projection, where u exit ur body and enter a poster and it becomes like a created realm. does anyone have experience with this tech because i am trying to make this huge world map and hang it up in my room and i thought if i projected into the poster, i would go into that world. prob will work but just curious to see if anyone else has tried this tech. Thanks!

Daniel
20th June 2005, 06:53 PM
Hello Yami,
I have expirenced the Virtual Reality Projection before. It is a really amazing expirence. I had, however, used a painting of a trail in the woods, with flowers all around and everything. All I did was once I left my body, go up to the painting and just, "walk into it," and it worked for me, I was in the picture! It was so amazing, I could smell everything, see, hear, taste, and touch. I think that VRP is one of my favorite things to do in the astral.

I also think that creating a huge world map of an entirety of your own would be awesome too. I often have thought about creating a world where I can go to in an OBE, when I am lonely in this one. But I must first master getting an OBE often enough to create this world.

Good luck!

nparker
21st June 2005, 12:35 PM
Hey everyone! I'm new here, well sorta heh. Anyways, I am starting the book "Mastering Astral Projection" (which is really good btw) and i was reading some of Astral Dynamics. what really caught my attention was the Virtual Reality Projection, where u exit ur body and enter a poster and it becomes like a created realm. does anyone have experience with this tech because i am trying to make this huge world map and hang it up in my room and i thought if i projected into the poster, i would go into that world. prob will work but just curious to see if anyone else has tried this tech. Thanks!

Hi SSJYamiVegeta..!

A mapamundi (global world map: political and physical) don't provide to subconscious mind sufficient information for to create the scenary that complies with reality of things. Unless you are in a deep meditative state, Higher Self connection assured, any resemblance with the reality is pure coincidence. Only data arising from your knowledge, about the country/region spotted, can provide the needed material for the subconciously created environment.

Sincerely,
Natalia Parker

SSJYamiVegeta
21st June 2005, 04:11 PM
Thanks for your replies guys. yeah, nparker, i am not JUST going to make a map, I am also trying to detail each city and village in the world, kind of like a Dungeons and Dragons game when they make the world and try to detail it as much as possible. It's not going to be a huge world like Earth but just one kinda big continent where you can kind of see the cities and geographical landmarks.
I am using a program on my computer called Fractal Terrains, which is going to help me make a continent which looks like it was taken from a satellite with all the clouds and stuff. This will trick my subconscious mind to thinking that it is an actual world that I am entering and it will create the world for me with all the knowledge i know about it (just a theory heh :D)
Oh and Daniel, how did u learn astral projection and do you have any more experience with Virtual Reality Projection? Thanks and hope to see more replies heh :D

nparker
21st June 2005, 04:41 PM
Thanks for your replies guys. yeah, nparker, i am not JUST going to make a map, I am also trying to detail each city and village in the world, kind of like a Dungeons and Dragons game when they make the world and try to detail it as much as possible. It's not going to be a huge world like Earth but just one kinda big continent where you can kind of see the cities and geographical landmarks.
I am using a program on my computer called Fractal Terrains, which is going to help me make a continent which looks like it was taken from a satellite with all the clouds and stuff. This will trick my subconscious mind to thinking that it is an actual world that I am entering and it will create the world for me with all the knowledge i know about it (just a theory heh :D)
Oh and Daniel, how did u learn astral projection and do you have any more experience with Virtual Reality Projection? Thanks and hope to see more replies heh :D

Hi SSJYamiVegeta...
As you say "This will trick my subconscious mind to thinking that it is an actual world that I am entering and it will create the world for me with all the knowledge i know about it". Of course, if you're going to lucid dreaming, that's all will ocurrs. You'll go creating world in your mind while more and more details will be required, despite the initial set of characteristics included at the world picture at your screen computer.
By other hand, if you are OBE'ing you can toggle to Lucid Dream state only by creating in your mind a reliable scenary and going into it.
Natalia Parker

SSJYamiVegeta
21st June 2005, 04:49 PM
Of course, if you're going to lucid dreaming, that's all will ocurrs. You'll go creating world in your mind while more and more details will be required, despite the initial set of characteristics included at the world picture at your screen computer.
That's why I am trying to get as much detail as possible in writing down the descriptions of the towns and cities and their locations heh :D. I wish Robert Bruce could come and give his 2 cents on Virtual Reality project :D

Donald McGlinn
21st June 2005, 05:03 PM
Hi SSJYamiVegeta,

I spoke to Robert a couple of hours ago.

As a rule, he gets limited to no online access when he is travelling doing workshops.

HOWEVER, he did say that he hoped to get online and post some messages when he is in Vancouver. I am not sure when he is there, but violetsky would know the exact dates.

Otherwise he will be back in Australia mid August.

Donald

SSJYamiVegeta
21st June 2005, 05:24 PM
ah well, maybe ill go visit him at one of his workshops in the future heh. Oh, btw, let's say I take a very large digital picture with my digital camera I have, lets say at the pool. If I take that picture, and make it into a poster, put a light onto it and project into the poster, will I be back at that scene?

or better yet, what if i got an image to display on the computer, full screen, could I project into that??

Daniel
21st June 2005, 06:05 PM
Yami, think of it like this. Once you have a picture on your wall, and you walk into it, your subconscious mind creates an exact copy of that picture, but turns it into an actual world. It is like entering a dream once you enter the picture. Now, once you leave the edges of the picture, your subconscious mind then must create what the conscious believes will be there.

But, in answer to your question, you wouldn't be "back" at the scene, you would be in a copy of the scene created by your subconscious mind. And, yes, you can project into the picture on a computer screen also, as long as you believe you can do it, you will. I hope I didn't confuse you any.

You asked earlier how I learned to astral project. Well, about two years ago I was interested in dreams and I went looking for information on the interenet, and ended up finding information about OBE's. I started reading information for countless hours at the library (since I had no internet access back then), and saving files and reading them on my computer at home. I would say that I've read, putting all time togeather, about 500 hours, just guessing of all the time I have read, and read everyday still. Anyways, I read a bunch of techniques and tried them, and my first OBE (two months after my initial findings on the internet of astral projection), lasted an amazingly full two hours (with the first hour, coming back to my body and exiting it again within seconds). This expirence has changed my life, and since then I have had many more OBE's. But, I must say, that if it wasn't for Robert, I would have had a lot less OBE's than what I have had.

SSJYamiVegeta
21st June 2005, 06:34 PM
thats sweet Daniel. I am going to try some experiments with Virtual Reality Projection once I get it down. Can u astral project at will, like lie down and OOBE?

Rydel
21st June 2005, 09:23 PM
Can u astral project at will, like lie down and OOBE?

Certainly not in the early stages. It takes time to go through the relaxation process, get into a trance, and make the exit. It can be fairly quick of course, but it takes a LOT of practice to even be able to project in the first place. :wink:

The_Projector
21st June 2005, 11:39 PM
Oh so thats what thats called.

Geez I have a dragon poster in my room and I don't think I want meet that ugly dude again :lol:










-The Projector-

SSJYamiVegeta
22nd June 2005, 01:49 AM
also, what if i turn on a video, or either play a video on my computer, could I project into the live video if it is full screen? Wouldn't the subconscious mind be tricked into thinking this is a live scene in a world and will project me into that scene? If it does work, I will make sure to watch The Matrix series alot lol :D

Daniel
22nd June 2005, 12:07 PM
Answering your previous question, no I cannot astral project at will.

The second one however, seems more prominent. I'm sure the subconscious mind can do it, since it takes a still photograph and makes it moveable, it should beable to take a moving photograph and become it. Also, since you have watched the movie, you should beable to "watch" and interact with it also, or even better yet...play one of the roles of the character in that movie :) .

SSJYamiVegeta
22nd June 2005, 02:37 PM
and try to screw up the movie and see where the plot would have went from there. "No, I will not fight Agent Smith and will not save Zion." lol :D

Rydel
22nd June 2005, 07:34 PM
and try to screw up the movie and see where the plot would have went from there. "No, I will not fight Agent Smith and will not save Zion." lol

If you were to project into a video game, you would not be able to control the ACTUAL game. You'd be in a mirror image that your subconscious creates of what you see on the screen.

nparker
23rd June 2005, 04:43 PM
and try to screw up the movie and see where the plot would have went from there. "No, I will not fight Agent Smith and will not save Zion." lol

If you were to project into a video game, you would not be able to control the ACTUAL game. You'd be in a mirror image that your subconscious creates of what you see on the screen.

Hi Rydel and SSJYamiVegeta...

Alternative and tragic conclusion for (Matrix III: Revolutions, if I'm not wrong) is possible since SSJYamiVegeta can sample and hold an isolated frame from game display development.

Then, if he want, he could to develop action from the viewpoint of villan requirements. :shock:

Sincerely,
Natalia Parker