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RyanParis
12th July 2010, 12:22 PM
When we are sleeping and dreaming, is it possible to rise up out of bed and walk around and meet people in the subconscious realm?

Our subconscious minds would be interacting, of course... is this possible?

Since our astral body is in our subconscious, could this actually be done on a daily basis?

CFTraveler
12th July 2010, 03:50 PM
It's possible in the collective subconscious, and I do believe we do this often, but usually don't remember. I think this accounts for many 'psychic experiences' some people report. That's why it's so important to keep a journal and work on recall.
I wouldn't take this idea literally-
Since our astral body is in our subconscious, but I won't argue against it.

Jananz
13th July 2010, 04:20 PM
How we know stuff about people through dreaming, even those we have never yet met...may be a factor of precognition or the penetration of time itself in the subconscious. However often we do not rationally understand the content of the symbolic information until happenstance plays out, which can be many years later.
In dreams I have pre-seen and known things about people I going to meet later in my life...however I have never had a two way stream where there was any sense of a two-way stream of conscious communication. Thus I have never had conscious meeting in my dreams...even so I think that there is a vast other communal life lived by our bodies and souls which we know nothing about. If we lived in a spiritual society that was able to penetrate the veil of the levels and walk between worlds with ease...we could find that we have the highest, deepest knowledge of ourselves, others and existence through dreams and altered states...not in the limited range available to the waking betawave state.

Beekeeper
14th July 2010, 08:34 AM
I wonder if a great deal of communication occurs this way so that we draw people and experiences in when the timing is right. This may be the case with both trivial and important encounters.

I've dreamt of people before meeting them too. I've also shared several dreams, most recently the night before last where I killed a rat (with my bare hands) and my husband dreamt he and my youngest son found a dead rat. One time, shortly after I'd resigned from a job I'd worked at for 16 years because I was tired of constant harassment from a colleague, I dreamt I met her, she asked for my forgiveness and I gave it to her. The next day, I was using an ATM when I heard her voice addressing me. She rather disingenuously declared that she didn't know what she had done to me but that she was sorry and hoped we'd be friends. I was predisposed to forgive because of the dream that I'd experienced a few hours prior. I've dreamt invitations that have come within a day or two of the dream and of people's pregnancies (and the genders of their babies) before they've rung to tell me. And I've been visited by the dead while they've transitioned and afterwards. Such precognition might involve somehow selectively picking up information from what is readily available but my feeling is that there is communication soul to soul. Sometimes I remember a sense of having conversed, even if I don't recall the conversation.

eyeoneblack
14th July 2010, 01:02 PM
We're going to love this movie - Inception

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbi ... cnn?hpt=C2 (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/07/12/natpkg.inception.junket.cnn?hpt=C2)

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I depend a good deal on subconscious communication to ease my way through difficulties IRW. I don't remember it, but I know it's going on. It would be inconsistent with my understandings of the greater reality to think otherwise. A lot of people can be worked with (including my own attitudes) overnight. I know it works, but I can't 'prove' it. :)

CFTraveler
14th July 2010, 02:54 PM
I can't wait to see it.

Jananz
22nd July 2010, 01:27 AM
The movie Inception is pretty important as it gives us a sense of the multilayered nature of consciousness. Not only can we dream through various layers of lucidity...and feel the shocked awake jump between the layers as we become lucid to the dream. We can also move through levels or diamensions of consciousness in the waking state and view reality differently at each layer as a result. This brilliant movie produces a viseral demostration of this multiplexity of consciousness, which may help people to actually ascend in consciousness to become somewhat more awake to the waking dream. A movie like this could be done using the layering system of Bigmind. http://www.bigmind.org/

Jananz
22nd July 2010, 06:23 PM
http://www.realitysandwich.com/lucid_dr ... nconscious (http://www.realitysandwich.com/lucid_dreaming_collective_unconscious)

eyeoneblack
21st August 2010, 03:23 PM
I depend a good deal on subconscious communication to ease my way through difficulties IRW. I don't remember it, but I know it's going on. It would be inconsistent with my understandings of the greater reality to think otherwise. A lot of people can be worked with (including my own attitudes) overnight. I know it works, but I can't 'prove' it. We're going to love this movie - Inception


I've had to wait quite a while to return to this, but I just had a situation which I think is a good example of what I meant.

I work at WalMart and occasionally I'm called to cashier. WalMart is a brutal employer and doesn't tolerate mistakes at all, especially by cashiers. So one busy evening I take a gov't subsidy check called WIC from a customer - two actually. I had never seen the likes of these WIC checks but they were, in fact, WIC and WalMart takes WIC so I took the checks.

A couple of weeks later a low level assistant manager informs me the checks I accepted were Indian WIC, which WalMart does not accept and asks me to sign a reprimand which then goes in my personnel file. I refused on the grounds that this was news to me. My training was deficient. She told me ‘they’ would just bug until I did. So I said, let ‘em bug me, then.

The big manager I was up against in this situation is a real badass but I asked my ‘people’ to take care of it if possible. Events then began to unfold in my favor. The manager went on vacation. She came back but I went on overnights. Time went by, the matter was forgotten.

You might think, oh so what? But these reprimands are serious business to the managers (refusing to sign and accept one is grounds for dismissal) and to dodge one, like a bullet, is pretty remarkable - it took some Divine Intervention. Anyway, I think so. :)

I debated whether to post this or not, it’s really not very interesting, but you see I did, anyway.

Tutor
21st August 2010, 04:33 PM
a rightside up you in an upside down and out world

kudos to ya Richard for standing in your ground. :wink:

CFTraveler
21st August 2010, 04:53 PM
Ditto.
Things like what you just mentioned are often overlooked by most people and dismissed as coincidence, but I think it's important to acknowledge them both for you and for whomever reads it- they add up.

Guitarmaster72
22nd August 2010, 04:59 AM
dude, i really wonder if it is possible to meet others in the subconscious... cuz just the other day, i had a lucid dream, and i was talking to my friend, and it seemed like he was right there, talking to me. maybe there was a disturbance in communication or something, because the dream cut-out shortly after i started talking to him. i wonder if that was just my brain imagining that he was talking to me, or if it was really him that i met in the dream world.

RyanParis
22nd August 2010, 12:43 PM
dude, i really wonder if it is possible to meet others in the subconscious... cuz just the other day, i had a lucid dream, and i was talking to my friend, and it seemed like he was right there, talking to me. maybe there was a disturbance in communication or something, because the dream cut-out shortly after i started talking to him. i wonder if that was just my brain imagining that he was talking to me, or if it was really him that i met in the dream world.

Sometimes, when I am dreaming, I feel like I fall off the couch, but when I quickly wake up I am still on the couch. It literally feels like I fall off the couch and hit the ground. I wonder if that is just us dreaming, or our astral bodies wondering off, or both.

I know its enough to cause our bodies to jump and jerk hard, so there is definitely something affecting them.

selfknowing
24th August 2010, 11:19 PM
Sometimes, when I am dreaming, I feel like I fall off the couch, but when I quickly wake up I am still on the couch. It literally feels like I fall off the couch and hit the ground. I wonder if that is just us dreaming, or our astral bodies wondering off, or both.

I know its enough to cause our bodies to jump and jerk hard, so there is definitely something affecting them.

Robert Peterson, in his free OBE e-book at http://www.robertpeterson.org mentions something similar about his astral body falling out of his physical body. I have been re-reading the book this past week and just read about that a few days ago. I can tell you it's before chapter 12. :D