Starting the 90 day journey!

[Magus]

Ok, so Ive got the books in the mail and im ready to go. What is unclear is how i should use the cd companion in conjunction with MAP. Also, ive gotten hold of the original cd from MAP, but as a mac user i cant use the bwgen. Any suggestions?

PS. Wish me luck ;)

[SiriusTraveler]

I found a link for you, hope its usefull!

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwgen/message/14663

R (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwgen/message/14663)egards //Linus

[CFTraveler]

Or read this:
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?47-Learning-Astral-Projection-with-the-BrainWave-Generator&p=74816#post74816

[johnnytheswede]

Hi Magus,

Welcome to the forum! Or as we could say here in Norden: "Välkommen!" I'm quite new myself and I am in week three of MAP.

I am a Linux user and of course the tips above are excellent, but I actually run Windows XP virtually, through something called VirtualBox. If you happen to have an old installation CD with Windows XP you could go this route. VirtualBox works very good on all kinds of computers. Let me know if I could help you further on this.

Oh, yeah, and good luck!

Greetings
Johnny

[CFTraveler]

Ok, so Ive got the books in the mail and im ready to go. What is unclear is how i should use the cd companion in conjunction with MAP.

PS. Wish me luck ;) Hi Magus. I just reread your original post and realize I missed a big part of the question.
There were two versions of MAP made- the original book form that comes with the BWGen CD Rom, and the CD Companion. Technically the CD Companion is the system reworked to use instead of the original book version, but I like the book version, it explains more things and takes you on (what I consider) a logical worked out step system.
If you want to combine the two (and I would recommend it) I would separate the book sections and use the CDs (there are six) in order depending on where you are in the book.

I haven't put it together in a coherent manner, but maybe I can write something up to that effect, for any others that want to combine both versions.
Of course, I'm not an expert, just someone who has both and used them for a long while.

[Magus]

Hi Magus. I just reread your original post and realize I missed a big part of the question.
If you want to combine the two (and I would recommend it) I would separate the book sections and use the CDs (there are six) in order depending on where you are in the book.


This is exactly what I want to do! Ive tried reading up on emulators to see if i can get the bwgen to work on my mac, but it seems like to much of a hassle. I wont be able to listen to it in my meditation space either, since i dont want to move my mac around each time i want to use the bwgen. So, i will use the cd companion in conjunction with the book. Is there anyone who has taken this approach and found out a way to divide up the chapters to the cd's? From what i understand the book only shows you parts of the exercises over the duration of a week and the cd companion says its no use to remember, since you will be guided through the exercises every time. This for me seems to go against the principle outlined in the book. Phew, what to do...hehehe...creating challenges for myself...

PS. I also got hemi-sync gateway experience. Is it possible to substitute the bwgen for some of this??? or maybe some other binaural stuff out there?

[CFTraveler]

Is there anyone who has taken this approach and found out a way to divide up the chapters to the cd's? If I have time this week I'll write something up... even though the CD's are self-sufficient, I do think the book is very helpful, because it explains why you're doing what you are doing, and you want to do stuff other than just listening to them passively.
So I'll go for it, since I have them both.

I don't know too much about the gateway CDs (have JOOBs myself) but everyone I know that has them swear they are great for teaching you to know what trance feels (and the transition from light to deep trance) which sounds good for the first part of the work- but when you are doing things like energy work or other memory and focusing exercises you don't want to be using them, IMO.

[Magus]

Thank you so much for your effort CFT!!! WOW!!! I'll be indebted to you ;) Your contribution makes me feel at home on this site! THANX!!!

[Magus]

Been following the program for 5 days now and ive come to some realizations. Im, as ive said in other posts, currently in a situation where my health is a real issue. Im being treated for cancer at the hospital. The prognoses look really good and all the doctors say i will be well again, so im writing this more to create some understanding about my situation than for sympathy;) But, the chemo therapy along with the other medicines are affecting me in many strange ways. Like isuddenly know how it is for woman to have pms. My mood shifts are really bad after treatment. I also get really really tired. And i have to take care of myself inregards to. That i have a very weakenend imune system. All of these issues makes it hard for me to be continuous with my practices.

What ive done so far is to first follow the first three days as outlined in MAP. But i wanted to use the cd companion as well, so i use the Relaxation cds for when we are supposed to use the brainwave generator for relaxation, the energy work cds for when we should use the brainwave generator for that and so on. A problem ive encountered is that ive got a catheter in my chest to deliver the medicine and i cant practice relaxing my chest, neck and the rest of my upper body since there is tensing required. What i can do i suppose is to use visualization when i get to that part. Will try that out. I see im writing myself away from what i really wanted to ask, which is, given my situatio , is it more advicable to wait until im cured/healed to start practicing vigourously or should i do some small things to get going. Im doing some meditation every day and it feels good. My dreams are not as clear as they used to and i guess its because of me being very tired and getting strong medicines. I really am struggeling with this issue as i feel some kind of time pressure to get going. Obe is for me the search for the holy grail. And its not the end result that matters most, its the journey. Ive been rushing things and being impatient in the past. Maybe now i should just rest and tale care of myself and wait until ive recovered to begin practicing again. Its all part of a process. Hmmm. Maybe ive given myself the answer, but i would still like to hear what some of you think. :)

[Beekeeper]

Rest, Magus. Nothing is more important than your health at this stage. It's not the Holy Grail, just a path. Every individual goes his unique way.

[Magus]

For me its become the holy grail at this point. Not that its the end road, but i can see that to master this art, there are so many skills i need to learn to lay the foundation which to build upon. And it should all come from me, no short cuts this time! That means practice, patience and endurance. Its what ive been searching for for a long time. But yes, my health comes first. Syrangely enough its this dis-ease that has made me find back to this again. It has indeed been a big teacher for me. I see now where i need to go and an outline of how i should get there is being presented. Now, its just a matter of walking the path:wink:

[SoulSail]

Welcome to the forum!

You'll find some incredibly insightful and wise folks here (listen to them first!)

On the topic of CDs and such, I can't say enough about what these guys produce:

http://www.store.unexplainable.net/products/lucid.php

I have hundreds of binaurals ranging from hemi-sync to holo-sync to you name it. I just found these gems from reading about them on a Lucid Dreaming blog that mentioned them. Note that I do NOT work for anyone and get no kick backs of any kind. I don't promote what I don't believe in. All I can say is that after using their Astral and Lucid dreaming mp3s, I have had my first successes. I can feel myself loosening when I listen. And, they're just pleasant sounding, unlike so many others.

Of course, we're all different. Your mileage may vary.

Best of luck (if there is such a thing)!

Soul

[johnnytheswede]

Hi Magus,

I hope I'm not being arrogant but I believe I understand your urge to really get an experience of "I am more than my body" since you have this condition - even though it is getting better. I totally agree with Beekeeper that rest would be imperative and that you and your doctors knows what is best for you. But if you cannot find the peace to rest (as I reckon might happen from time to time), you could alternate resting with doing the spine bounce (found in week 2 of MAP), it has healing effects and I use it when I get worried about my health. If you do it enough it becomes automatic and then you can fall asleep and it continues while you rest. During this type of practice I have sometimes woken up noticing that I am doing energy work while sleeping. Bouncing/sponging energy up and down the spine also takes the mind off of thinking, "how is my health now, how is my health now, wonder if this medicine is good etc. etc."

[Magus]

Good advice! Will definetly give it a go. Ive done that exercise a few times using the MAP cd companion. And youre quite right, it becomes automatic quite quickly. I also recieved the NEW book yesterday, so i can do some reading there as well. And just to put things clearly, off course my health comes first! Ive just got a lot of time laying still, so. I wonder if i can put that time to good use when i have the energy. And now, ive got something to do:wink:

[Beekeeper]

I bet you have an OBE real soon.

[Magus]

I bet you have an OBE real soon.

+1 ;-)

[johnnytheswede]

It's good to know that your health comes first. Another idea with lots of laying-still-time could be to look into the The Monroe Institute's Gateway Voyage CD:s. There you basically, as I see it, have it done to you, it's not "A Program That Requires A Lot of Diligent Practice", you just listen to the Hemi-Sync waves and that's it, as I understand it. According to scientific studies done in association with the Monroe Institute Hemi-Sync also reduces the time one needs for recuperation from surgery and serious illness, to me it seems that you maybe could look into that. Or, rather, have a friend look into it for you. Your doctor should be extremely curious and supportive about this. (The Gateway CD:s are available on amazon.com.)

[Magus]

I acually got them and have them with me on my ipad in the hospital:wink:

[johnnytheswede]

I acually got them and have them with me on my ipad in the hospital:wink:

Well hey, there you go! You're all set up for complete recovery then, if the condition is in remission (as you said) and if you can bear the hospital food!

[SiriusTraveler]

Welcome to the forum!

You'll find some incredibly insightful and wise folks here (listen to them first!)

On the topic of CDs and such, I can't say enough about what these guys produce:

http://www.store.unexplainable.net/products/lucid.php

I have hundreds of binaurals ranging from hemi-sync to holo-sync to you name it. I just found these gems from reading about them on a Lucid Dreaming blog that mentioned them. Note that I do NOT work for anyone and get no kick backs of any kind. I don't promote what I don't believe in. All I can say is that after using their Astral and Lucid dreaming mp3s, I have had my first successes. I can feel myself loosening when I listen. And, they're just pleasant sounding, unlike so many others.

Of course, we're all different. Your mileage may vary.

Best of luck (if there is such a thing)!

Soul

Soulsail, do you use the isochronic or the binaural ones?

[SiriusTraveler]

On the topic of CDs and such, I can't say enough about what these guys produce:

I have hundreds of binaurals ranging from hemi-sync to holo-sync to you name it. I just found these gems from reading about them on a Lucid Dreaming blog that mentioned them. Note that I do NOT work for anyone and get no kick backs of any kind. I don't promote what I don't believe in. All I can say is that after using their Astral and Lucid dreaming mp3s, I have had my first successes. I can feel myself loosening when I listen. And, they're just pleasant sounding, unlike so many others.

Soul

Do you use the isochronic or the binaural ones? (Thinking about which ones I should buy).