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sash
27th June 2005, 11:40 AM
I would like to start a discussion about how sex influences energy work for Astral Dynamics forum members, and how you manage it in your energy work.

Over the past week I have been at a workshop for eliminating the ego and attaining spiritual freedom.

I had attained a strong sense of inner peace towards the end of the workshop. I also noticed powerful energy sensations, through all of my chakras, and I had finally managed to feel the last major chakra that I had been struggling with (throat).

I don't know if the energy activity had something to do with someone sending it. My mum has been in contact with a few people who are supposedly sending us energy at the moment, but I am not aware if that had anything to do with it.

I do know that I could clairvoyantly observe the room with minimum effort during the workshop, and my cold almost cured completely. The thing is, that as soon as I had sex the night after the workshop I fell into a slump and lost a lot of the peace and strength that I had before. I also lost much of the energy awareness I had.

I've read about sex effects on the energy body, energy depletion and loss of awareness etc.

Has this been the case for anyone?

Surely for successful energy work you don't just stop having sex permanently?

Does anyone here use any transmutation exercises such as tantra? I'm really interested in as many opinions and experiences with this as possible. :)


Warm Regards,
Alexander

solitarypanther
27th June 2005, 02:57 PM
I've been through the same thing you're describing, that is, the feeling of energy depletion after sex and losing some degree of energy awareness. It's taken me years to figure out why, and I'm sure it varies depending on individual experience and subconscious programming, but for me I determined that it was a combination of the subconscious belief that sex is a wasteful and inappropriate activity (from my parents) and that anything to do with ego and self-gratification depletes spiritual energy/resources (from various spiritual doctrines and organizations).

Fortuanately, I decided that to divide sex and spirit is more draining than it is uplifting. As with any activity you put your energy into, you can overdo it. By keeping a balanced outlook, and taking time for sex, play, work, exercise, hobbies, energy work, prayer, etc. you should notice an INCREASE of energy flow after sex.

There was also a certain amount of guilt I had to overcome about sex. There is nothing wrong with enjoying the body that you have been gifted with. If you overdo it, no one is keeping count except yourself. Give yourself a break and learn to listen to what your body tells you--every human has cycles they go through, it might be helpful to keep a journal or calendar that keeps track of the ups and downs, as well as the feelings and attitudes you have during these times.

Hope that helps :)

Monkeymind
27th June 2005, 03:55 PM
I did a google search a couple of weeks ago on this subject, and what I found was a number of techniques on how to preserver sexual energy. This is a good place to start.

http://www.emerald-energies.com/index.php

The e-book was Taoist Secrets of Love - Cultivating Male Sexual Energy.

Tantra can also provide you with some help.

I started using the techniques about two weeks ago and I have really felt a difference.

Hopes this helps.

Renaissance
27th June 2005, 07:32 PM
Hey sash, I'm certainly no expert but sexual cultivation has been an interest of mine for some time now. One of the things I have found in my studies and practice is that a tremendous amount of sexual energy is expelled when the body ejaculates. This is of greater significance in men but still holds true for woemen. Therefore it is better to practice extended and whole body orgasms where one does not ejaculate. Of course the body does go through cycles and full release is necessary periodicaly dependant on ones age. I'm not sure about the whole story for the ladies but for men ages 18-26 it's about once every four days 27-34 once every two weeks and it continues that way with less and less frequency the older you are until you reach a certain age where you sholdn't ever go all the way.
In my own cultivation practice I have deffinately noticed changes in energy levels dependant on where I am in the cycle. Day one is pretty low. Day two starts to escalate, three is pretty full blown and on day four my sexual energy is just about uncontrolable until I finish the cycle. Once I've finished the cycle I feel pretty relaxed and good because it's like I lowered the energy level but since there was so much there I didn't take too much energy away or drain from an already low reserve which is what happens if you go every day.

anyways I hope that helps
Travis

Astralsailor
27th June 2005, 07:43 PM
Didnt read any of the answers :)
but im just gonna say what i think from my experience and what i read.

You are the one in controll of it so it is not something that just suddently stop. You will still have inner peace if you want it. I find it that sex does can releas sexual energi or what you shoul call it. It stored in stomeck chakra some say some say root. I dont really know but i feel that it does store it. And having sex is not something bad in thid case at all rather the oppiset. It can keep you energy balanced but i would not recomend to much from what i read and well..
It says some about it in Franse Barnods book "Initiations to Hermatics"

star
27th June 2005, 08:35 PM
You can also direct that energy you lose in orgasm to different parts of the body, to clear blocks, empore chakras, fix holes in the aura. and so on.

easy directions> at the moment of orgasm visualize a bright white light going from the groin up the spine to wherever you need it ;P

Ides
28th June 2005, 03:28 AM
There is also a way to "recycle" the energy which is supposed to be quite wonderful, though I have not yet taken the presence of mind (distracted I guess) to fully explore this. It does from a more backround effect show some psoitve responses.

The link to an explantion is here:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/apr1/ankhing.htm

If anyone manages to fully cultivate the expereince he is speaking of, please inform us.

Highly recommended that warnings about dealing with energy are observed in the article, there is a huge amount of energy involved in "release".

Best to all

sash
28th June 2005, 09:02 AM
Thanks for the excellent replies. Each one of them resonated within me to some extent.

There seems to be some kind of secret doorway leading to enlightenment behind the manipulation of sexual energy.

Ides, that is a very interesting article you posted. Has anyone tried this technique? It sounds fascinating.

It seems to me from the general flow of the posts that one has to attain a certain degree of energy body development to do any kind of sexual energy manipulation. It is certainly interesting to read about though.


Warm Regards,
Alexander

Aunt Clair
28th June 2005, 11:17 AM
links on tantric breathing and kundalini
http://www.spiralrhythms.org/tantric/ex ... ises.shtml (http://www.spiralrhythms.org/tantric/exercises/04_exercises.shtml)
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Flo ... e/id/21653 (http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Floating_Exercise/id/21653)
http://www.oztantra.com/cobra_breath.htm

links on tantric breathing and sex
http://www.newfrontier.com/nepal/pranayama.htm
"Could an ancient spiritual ritual be changing sex as we know it?"
http://www.tantra.com/boston2.html
http://www.sourcetantra.com/media-revie ... d-spas.htm (http://www.sourcetantra.com/media-reviews/healing-lifestyles-and-spas.htm)

Ides
28th June 2005, 01:42 PM
Hi, Alexander.

For my 2 cents it would be a good idea to get your energy body "in shape" before really trying to do things like manipulating such a large load of energy.

Roberts NEW techniques are an excellent place to start, and will give you a lot more control over what the enrgy does, the feeling if what you are trying to do is right or wrong, etc....

Best

Lion
29th June 2005, 09:11 PM
There is no inward release of literal, physical semen, except into the bladder.
Anything else results in blue balls.

I have been told that this is overproduction as a result of "aggrivating" foods. These are the same which would best replenish that which is lost. Can any actual cases by cited, in which semen production decreased in a person still eating a varied diet?

Thoughts should be given to the intent of intercourse. Is the partner being nourished or consumed? How 'bout you?

I've heard of Li Ch'ing Yuen ( http://www.itmonline.org/arts/hoshouwu.htm )
personally from a master of respectable lineage. Though this legend in longevity has been associated with tantra, few care to answer why he outlived every one of his wives!

tyciol
30th June 2005, 12:14 AM
I'd be very interested in what nutrition leads to overproduction as to allow a greatly multiplied amount of releases.

I am wondering, what do you mean elimination of the ego? Surely you don't mean to fully eliminate it. Besides, can you honestly say your interest in the Tantra is so un-ego-ly sincere? I know personally what first attracted me to it was the mystical softn traditional feel it returned to sex. Sex seems to have lost a lot of it's magic what with all the pornography and sluts of both genders flaunting it and telling us that our dreams aren't real.

sash
30th June 2005, 01:44 AM
Tyciol,

My aim with this is to increase my consciousness and align myself with my higher self. The ego is the lower self and is to be replaced with core higher self consciousness. At the moment of birth we do not have an ego, it is formed only in the physical, so yes I do mean totally eliminate it.

I also want to use Tantra and the like to rediscover sexual union in its true essence. I think that the whole idea of sex has been completely misconstrued by people by the time they reach age 16, and there is much more in it then what people normally take it as.

Much of the websites about Tantra, transmutation and alchemy seem to be deficient in explaining clearly a technique that works well. The only one I found conclusive in its explanations is the article that Ides posted, perhaps a higher level of energy body development is required to achieve that though.


Warm Regards,
Alex

Astralsailor
30th June 2005, 09:56 AM
Tyciol,

My aim with this is to increase my consciousness and align myself with my higher self. The ego is the lower self and is to be replaced with core higher self consciousness. At the moment of birth we do not have an ego, it is formed only in the physical, so yes I do mean totally eliminate it.

I also want to use Tantra and the like to rediscover sexual union in its true essence. I think that the whole idea of sex has been completely misconstrued by people by the time they reach age 16, and there is much more in it then what people normally take it as.

Much of the websites about Tantra, transmutation and alchemy seem to be deficient in explaining clearly a technique that works well. The only one I found conclusive in its explanations is the article that Ides posted, perhaps a higher level of energy body development is required to achieve that though.


Warm Regards,
Alex

Ego can be used as a tool in many ways i like to work with my ego in a Partner ship.. If you seen the movie "Phenomena" i think its a great explenation... You know the way he describes the partnership with pens :)
I think we fill to much that ego is always such a bad thing. I dont belive its such a bad thing always.
Ability to work with ego i belive is what one needs. And not to let any side over dominante but work together to form and manifest the ideas of your "Depper" or "higher" self.
St Germain speak about this in "Cotinued studies on Alchemy"
I think it is a great book and surely recomend it for anyone ^_^
Everypart of you is you. May it be Higherself or Ego. Why would you want to eliminate yourself?

"In touch with Spirit, Love and Soul you will see the Lead turn in to Gold"
LL&L ^_^

sash
30th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi Astralsailor,

I disagree that "every part of you is you". What would be called the negative parts, anger, jealousy ect. make up the ego. If you analyse yourself throughout the day and become aware of your actions you can pick up on the negative paths of thought and eliminate them.

You make yourself: You make your reality. The compilation of subjective ideas about the world in the ego are immensely limiting. By subscribing to certain egos one views the world through a very thin scope, you get the idea about how self limiting this is... I suggest watching What The Bleep (http://www.whatthebleep.com/synopsis/), it tends to demystify this doctrine a little bit.

I would surmise that it would not be possible to project to any area of the Causal dimension, and some areas of the Mental perhaps, without a certain degree of retained and attuned consciousness. Consciousness is the antonym of ego to the best of my understanding. On the reverse of angry, resentful, vengeful would be the conscious attributes of compassionate, understanding, and hopeful.

It can be pretty easy to see how this fits in with Jesus as depicted in the bible, and what is often referred to as Christ Consciousness. I don't believe Jesus was ever said to have been angry. Eliminating the ego of anger would allow one to observe reality from every angel still, not killing a part of oneself, more so freeing a part of oneself I would say. Quite a feat to attain in my opinion. Perhaps there is such lack of information about whether Jesus practiced sex in the bible because he practiced certain alchemical practices. This could be the key to how people attain a level of spiritual mastery in themselves.

It's all based on consciousness fundamentally, the human consciousness seems to be covered with egos in it's current frame. I'm drawn to transmutation and tantra practices because to uncover that consciousness could be quite a transformational experience. Apart from that, I do pursue it because of the reasons stated by Tyciol.

It just seems like there is something sacred in that energy, perhaps even relating directly to Kundalini, I presume. Anyway, this subject is way too complex to cover sufficiently in one post, but I would suggest you deeper investigate the dynamics of the ego Astralsailor, as will I.


Warm Regards,
Alexander

Astralsailor
30th June 2005, 02:40 PM
Hi Astralsailor,

I disagree that "every part of you is you". What would be called the negative parts, anger, jealousy ect. make up the ego. If you analyse yourself throughout the day and become aware of your actions you can pick up on the negative paths of thought and eliminate them.

You make yourself: You make your reality. The compilation of subjective ideas about the world in the ego are immensely limiting. By subscribing to certain egos one views the world through a very thin scope, you get the idea about how self limiting this is... I suggest watching What The Bleep (http://www.whatthebleep.com/synopsis/), it tends to demystify this doctrine a little bit.

I would surmise that it would not be possible to project to any area of the Causal dimension, and some areas of the Mental perhaps, without a certain degree of retained and attuned consciousness. Consciousness is the antonym of ego to the best of my understanding. On the reverse of angry, resentful, vengeful would be the conscious attributes of compassionate, understanding, and hopeful.

It can be pretty easy to see how this fits in with Jesus as depicted in the bible, and what is often referred to as Christ Consciousness. I don't believe Jesus was ever said to have been angry. Eliminating the ego of anger would allow one to observe reality from every angel still, not killing a part of oneself, more so freeing a part of oneself I would say. Quite a feat to attain in my opinion. Perhaps there is such lack of information about whether Jesus practiced sex in the bible because he practiced certain alchemical practices. This could be the key to how people attain a level of spiritual mastery in themselves.

It's all based on consciousness fundamentally, the human consciousness seems to be covered with egos in it's current frame. I'm drawn to transmutation and tantra practices because to uncover that consciousness could be quite a transformational experience. Apart from that, I do pursue it because of the reasons stated by Tyciol.

It just seems like there is something sacred in that energy, perhaps even relating directly to Kundalini, I presume. Anyway, this subject is way too complex to cover sufficiently in one post, but I would suggest you deeper investigate the dynamics of the ego Astralsailor, as will I.


Warm Regards,
Alexander

Yes i seen that movie and i love it ^_^
I think we are taking each side of one coin :)
I dont see it as eliminating you ego but rather transmuting it and making your ego to better person so to say. And working and manifesting the ideas of higher self and not anymore the ego. The ego is a part of you deppending if you want it to be or not. I think of all part of me as me but the real me is my soul or spirit and much more. I think Ego is not a bad thing always and emotions is a gift. I think if we want ego to not be part of us it is not there is no really truth in it. We are having this human experience with these egos and i dont think the Ego has to be eliminated I rather say Parthership then Elimination and for the ego to trust the higherself or so to say.

I just think elimination is a word that not fit for this.
I agree with you and i know at the core we are explaining the same thing :)

Sex was the real subject of this post i think :)
HOpe thouse posts up there will help with the question that was possed ^_^

Im currently working with kundalini in progress Have been helped with it sometime now and opened all chakras :)
yes i will be happy to do that ^_^

Im so happy there are communitys like this Love you all ^_^
LL&L

Lion
2nd July 2005, 09:21 PM
I'd be very interested in what nutrition leads to overproduction as to allow a greatly multiplied amount of releases.

This is accomplished with amino acids, aphrodisiacal (sexual stimulant), and gland tonifying (ginseng, etc.) herbs. Meat is a balanced source of amino acids, which are formed when the protein breaks down in gastric juices, anyway. ($100.00 shakes, get bent.)

There is an old accusation that ammonia irritates the urinary tract of meat eaters, causing erections. Some Tantrists have said constipation tickles the prostate, making you horny, even to the point of equally draining nocturnal emissions. I've eaten meat until my stomach was noticeably distended and haven't noticed anything unusual, yet.


I am wondering, what do you mean elimination of the ego? Surely you don't mean to fully eliminate it. Besides, can you honestly say your interest in the Tantra is so un-ego-ly sincere?

I love this reasoning. It's like, if there is no Ego, why would you care, anymore?

The word Ego comes from Freud, who was religiously affiliated with Bacchean revelers. Pan, Baal, Lucifer, what the Christians called the god of forces, was meant to be ecstatically unleashed upon disinhibition. Sound familiar?

Astralsailor
4th July 2005, 02:27 PM
[quote]I'd be very interested in what nutrition leads to overproduction as to allow a greatly multiplied amount of releases.

This is accomplished with amino acids, aphrodisiacal (sexual stimulant), and gland tonifying (ginseng, etc.) herbs. Meat is a balanced source of amino acids, which are formed when the protein breaks down in gastric juices, anyway. ($100.00 shakes, get bent.)

There is an old accusation that ammonia irritates the urinary tract of meat eaters, causing erections. Some Tantrists have said constipation tickles the prostate, making you horny, even to the point of equally draining nocturnal emissions. I've eaten meat until my stomach was noticeably distended and haven't noticed anything unusual, yet.


I am wondering, what do you mean elimination of the ego? Surely you don't mean to fully eliminate it. Besides, can you honestly say your interest in the Tantra is so un-ego-ly sincere?

I love this reasoning. It's like, if there is no Ego, why would you care, anymore?

The word Ego comes from Freud, who was religiously affiliated with Bacchean revelers. Pan, Baal, Lucifer, what the Christians called the god of forces, was meant to be ecstatically unleashed upon disinhibition. Sound familiar?[/quote:3blid3pt]

yeah i agree :)

29th July 2005, 01:02 PM
i have taoists secrets of love: for man and women, but in polish :?
the results i attained so far are very promising
to make long story short, ejaculation is tremendous loss of energy, and all internal organs are used to produce new sperm, brain too, not mentioning energy used
so each ejaculation kills you, literally

earlier i directed sexual energy from an orgasm+ejaculation up the spine, healed various body parts, etc, still the loss of energy is tremendeous when compared to not ejaculating, better than nothing, but not worth it
and ejaculation isn't orgasm, obviously ;), i will experiment with ankh in the future, thx

as to healthy ejaculation from time to time, the author of the book claims that he has ejaculated 2 times during last 10 years, to have a son :)
there are exercises there to fix night pollutions, etc
i won't give any rough idea since i would have tried it myself, and that could be dangerous :?
i suggest googling microcosmic orbit ;)

personally i work on my ego being transparent, i also have plans for higher parts being transparent :roll:

Middleway
30th July 2005, 02:15 PM
i have taoists secrets of love: for man and women, but in polish :?
the results i attained so far are very promising
to make long story short, ejaculation is tremendous loss of energy, and all internal organs are used to produce new sperm, brain too, not mentioning energy used
so each ejaculation kills you, literally

earlier i directed sexual energy from an orgasm+ejaculation up the spine, healed various body parts, etc, still the loss of energy is tremendeous when compared to not ejaculating, better than nothing, but not worth it
and ejaculation isn't orgasm, obviously ;), i will experiment with ankh in the future, thx

as to healthy ejaculation from time to time, the author of the book claims that he has ejaculated 2 times during last 10 years, to have a son :)
there are exercises there to fix night pollutions, etc
i won't give any rough idea since i would have tried it myself, and that could be dangerous :?
i suggest googling microcosmic orbit ;)

personally i work on my ego being transparent, i also have plans for higher parts being transparent :roll:

That is all in your head. How your subconscious internally reactes to sex is a major determanent in how your body will handle energy. I used to think the same way because of indoctrination into gnosticism. However, when I started doing sex-based energy work and put aside the catholic mysticism based sexual guilt found within modern gnosticism I now actually collect and store outside energy during sex. I can actually gather enough energy so that I can ejaculate and still come out with more energy than had going in. I can easily have multiple orgasms if I choose or I could keep all the energy for even greater results. In fact, I don't even lose my erection(i.e. have to take a short rest) after ejaculation. My penis just stays erect as if I never orgasmed. On top of that I can handle greater amounts of energy so I can better choose when I want to orgasm.

Moral of the story: Build up outside energy. Don't waste your own internal energies.

8th August 2005, 10:36 AM
interesting, i will definitely work on it

still, the sperm itself has many important nutritients, but this can be fixed by proper diet

since the sexual energy must go somewhere, i managed to retrieve it after loss, made a cocoon of my aura to not to let it dissipate with good results
when combined with gathering outside energy, hmmm 8)

Psi
14th August 2005, 03:00 AM
I will act as a test subject for this one. Just as me to do something and I'll do my best to go have sex wherever possible 8) I seriously wonder why nobody has volunteered this yet...because as sarcastic as I sound...I'm deadly serious... :twisted:

14th August 2005, 11:18 AM
try masturbation first

Psi
14th August 2005, 11:43 AM
Damn...and here I was hoping for a "fun" experiment. All safety precautions founded beforehand...but still fun :P

Anywho, send me a PM if you need a subject

Amur
16th August 2005, 01:30 PM
It is a good way to balance the femine and masculine aspects with self-love. After all there are no genders but unity in spirit :wink:

16th August 2005, 08:08 PM
ok, i managed to pull of what middleway was describing in my own way
i moved the energy from testicles to huyin point (middleway between anus and testicles, kundalini also starts from there) instead of to penis, then up the spine in microcosmic orbit
this allowed me to choose the point of orgasm and significantly lower energy loss during ejaculation (not losing erection), since i was controlling the energy flow to penis (to some extent)

also i had kundalini raising, and managed to loop some of it's energy into microcosmic orbit, but need definitely a lot more work on this one, got pretty interesting experience afterwards

external energy raising is good suplement to this indeed, thx middleway

i have 3 related books in pdf now, can send them to interested through pm

Middleway
17th August 2005, 03:22 AM
ok, i managed to pull of what middleway was describing in my own way
i moved the energy from testicles to huyin point (middleway between anus and testicles, kundalini also starts from there) instead of to penis, then up the spine in microcosmic orbit
this allowed me to choose the point of orgasm and significantly lower energy loss during ejaculation (not losing erection), since i was controlling the energy flow to penis (to some extent)

also i had kundalini raising, and managed to loop some of it's energy into microcosmic orbit, but need definitely a lot more work on this one, got pretty interesting experience afterwards

external energy raising is good suplement to this indeed, thx middleway

i have 3 related books in pdf now, can send them to interested through pm

Good to hear you found it helpful.

I don't know the context in which you did that exercise, but if you do it without the intent to orgasm; without the pleasure being the focues, but instead the enrgy work itself, you will have even better results.

17th August 2005, 10:39 AM
with my girlfriend, interestingly enough she also had kundalini raising few hours later
the thing with concentrating on energy work is that your partner will definitely feel it, diverting attention hurts feelings ...
edit: when unexplained

Middleway
17th August 2005, 03:05 PM
with my girlfriend, interestingly enough she also had kundalini raising few hours later
the thing with concentrating on energy work is that your partner will definitely feel it, diverting attention hurts feelings ...

In the instances where it is purely energy work I am referring to non-sexual masturbation. Women typically require intimacy and I wouldn't suggest otherwise.

17th August 2005, 05:46 PM
i think this is matter of understanding and cooperation, right partner is extremely important (found one 8) )
masturbation is an incomplete stage, doesn't produce specific energy i need and i cannot convert it in the amounts i need now

sash
30th August 2005, 03:25 AM
It seems that by doing the opposite, practicing too much sex, the chakras activate to a greater capacity and the energy body has a significant increase in energy. But this only lasts for a short time and seems to not continue in the long term.


Regards,
Sasha

Aunt Clair
16th September 2005, 01:42 AM
http://www.alchemylab.com/AJ2-6.htm#Three Gems of Alchemy: the Ching

Interesting article on sex and breath and energy from an alchemy journal online .

"The sublimation of Chi is the second alchemical gemstone ......

Ching energy is produced naturally by your physical body. This natural product is sexual energy. Ching is creation power. As sexual energy it is unconsciously produced and driven by biological instinct instilled by the great mother Void Chaos. The physical portal for the production of this microcosmic quintessence is the sex organ systems in men and women. When these complementary powers intermingle through sexual intercourse a new life can be created. The gross (physical) life created is the embryo that can become a new human being provided the electromagnetic and biochemical cascade of matter in the embryo has enough shen to complete its course.......

To sublimate ching one must collect sexual energy then concentrate It. You do this by stimulation sexually to a point near orgasm. The closer to orgasm you get, the more ching there is. That energy builds in the groin area and must be drawn upward. This is accomplished by drawing in a deep breath while pulling the hot sexual energy up the spine through the inner circulation. This is the opposite direction as in circulating chi."

the article gives clarity direction graphics resources and warnings and is a good read

http://www.alchemylab.com/AJ2-6.htm#Three Gems of Alchemy: the Ching
Lynn Osburn is co-author of Green Gold: the Tree of Life, Marijuana in Magic and Religion published by Access Unlimited. For more information email openi420@juno.com..

sash
16th September 2005, 02:48 AM
Interesting. Thx, i'll check out that link later. This feels so awkward though. :oops: :)


Sasha

nparker
17th October 2005, 03:23 AM
QUESTION:
During sexual activity, what are the main guidelines (or procedures) of Energy Work..? Such procedures are excluyent of self satisfaction (without male partenaire) of sexual instinct..?
My best regards...
Sincerely,
Natalia Parker

nparker
20th October 2005, 01:25 PM
QUESTION:
During sexual activity, what are the main guidelines (or procedures) of Energy Work..? Such procedures are excluyent of self satisfaction (without male partenaire) of sexual instinct..?
My best regards...
Sincerely,
Natalia Parker

:oops: Sorry... At Aunt Clair´s post guidelines were enough done.

20th October 2005, 04:02 PM
http://www.alchemylab.com/AJ2-6.htm#Three Gems of Alchemy: the Ching

Interesting article on sex and breath and energy from an alchemy journal online .

"The sublimation of Chi is the second alchemical gemstone ......

Ching energy is produced naturally by your physical body. This natural product is sexual energy. Ching is creation power. As sexual energy it is unconsciously produced and driven by biological instinct instilled by the great mother Void Chaos. The physical portal for the production of this microcosmic quintessence is the sex organ systems in men and women. When these complementary powers intermingle through sexual intercourse a new life can be created. The gross (physical) life created is the embryo that can become a new human being provided the electromagnetic and biochemical cascade of matter in the embryo has enough shen to complete its course.......

To sublimate ching one must collect sexual energy then concentrate It. You do this by stimulation sexually to a point near orgasm. The closer to orgasm you get, the more ching there is. That energy builds in the groin area and must be drawn upward. This is accomplished by drawing in a deep breath while pulling the hot sexual energy up the spine through the inner circulation. This is the opposite direction as in circulating chi."

the article gives clarity direction graphics resources and warnings and is a good read

http://www.alchemylab.com/AJ2-6.htm#Three Gems of Alchemy: the Ching
Lynn Osburn is co-author of Green Gold: the Tree of Life, Marijuana in Magic and Religion published by Access Unlimited. For more information email openi420@juno.com..
I am aware of Taoist sexual alchemy. My question is this... Does this help generate an OBE? Robert Bruce seems to discourage one from using such techniques...