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bahamuthat
8th March 2012, 01:54 AM
hello sir!

inspired by your manifestation and healin videos i started doing affirmations on seeing the energy. a week later something happened.

when i relax and gaze at the sky, i can see a multitude of tiny sperm-like particles. they move fast and chaoticaly and sometimes they are slower with pulse-like rhythm added to their collective movement.

it is also somewhere in front of me but i can't tell how far.

also it's easier to spot during the day and nearly impossible after sunset.

EA Koetting named something like this static rain, but my shaman friend who actually sees auras regularly says that this is some eye trick and not really the energy. my other friend thinks it is energy from the sun, while i kinda think it has something to do with rendering engine of the matrix which we experience.

what is this? can you please explain or tell me if this has been discussed before.



thank you

CFTraveler
8th March 2012, 02:31 AM
It has been discussed before, a few times:
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?5723-What-s-this-a-trick-of-the-eyes-or-something-else

bahamuthat
8th March 2012, 02:56 AM
thank you, but i know what the floaters are and i just ignore them. this static rain really is something else.

proyect_outzone
8th March 2012, 11:10 AM
I know, what you mean. These tiny white spots are no floaters, but they are often mentioned together with them. But both are completely different. The tiny white points looks really fantastic, but they are sadly not supernatural.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon

bahamuthat
8th March 2012, 01:05 PM
i'm so depressed right now..

i searched some more and found this guy explaining it all in detail
http://zomobo.net/play.php?id=FkUwogWzSwk


what really pisses me off are those hippy new agers that say stuff like love and light and "you just gotta believe" or "you don't trust yourself enough" and claim that this phenomenon is actually "vibrations" that create everything around us. and of course, i buy that with a grain of salt and go on a quest of discovery where i actually sat every day for a week outside watching these specks of energy and making observations... i actually even made notes on behavior of the particles in different moods and while having happy or angry thoughts. and i've event thought, since you have to relax to see them, that you are actually slowing down you're brainwaves.

turns out it's white cells in my eye... COME ON....

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Neil Templar
8th March 2012, 01:53 PM
i'm so depressed right now..

i searched some more and found this guy explaining it all in detail
http://zomobo.net/play.php?id=FkUwogWzSwk


what really pisses me off are those hippy new agers that say stuff like love and light and "you just gotta believe" or "you don't trust yourself enough" and claim that this phenomenon is actually "vibrations" that create everything around us. and of course, i buy that with a grain of salt and go on a quest of discovery where i actually sat every day for a week outside watching these specks of energy and making observations... i actually even made notes on behavior of the particles in different moods and while having happy or angry thoughts. and i've event thought, since you have to relax to see them, that you are actually slowing down you're brainwaves.

turns out it's white cells in my eye... COME ON....

:\

So, you've learned a valuable lesson in discernment, plus you've gotten the answer to your question. Why so depressed?

bahamuthat
8th March 2012, 02:16 PM
well i am thankful and i'm glad to find the answer early, and not to believe in something which is not. i only got dissapointed because i thought affirmations started to kick in.

so.. do bring this further, i have a question:

is there a non-physical phenomenon that could be described as static rain and vibrations of the "veil"?

does it exist and how does one go about seeing this?

CFTraveler
8th March 2012, 03:13 PM
If it makes you feel better, it has been demonstrated in the lab that the eyes have the capacity to detect one single photon when shown in the dark- so you see, we do see all kinds of subtle things. So even though the phenomenon you are seeing may be mostly your eyes seeing physical energy, there's no telling what kind of other-wavelength energy they may be able to see.
And remember, light is both physical and nonphysical.

proyect_outzone
9th March 2012, 10:42 AM
is there a non-physical phenomenon that could be described as static rain and vibrations of the "veil"?

does it exist and how does one go about seeing this?

I know many visible non physical things. Some of them are really spectacular and detailled. There are several ways to learn to see them. I would recommend following two possibilities to learn viewing non physical things:

1. You know already the focusless observing from watching the physical white points. Do the same at night. Half of attempts with closed eyes and half of attempts with open eyes. Try to watch different backgrounds. Try also to watch your hand against the light from the night sky. Best results are, if you try immediately (!!!) to see after sudden wake up. Try not longer than 60 Minutes to see things. After that time will nothing anymore come. Try to exclude complementary colors (at night mostly white/grey or black).

The most common visible effects are:

Animations of visible Aura around the fingers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFNuI5qjEM0 (Heat haze like phenomenon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KMWvNGs4PQ (line like phenomenon)
Can be even much more detailled!!!!

Animations of visible aura colors: (Visible with open and wqith closed eyes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zusdWQHxjiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9-5e0ASzTw
Can be much more detailled!!!

2. Make an attempt for out of body experiences and watch in the black of the closed eyes. Even if you not believe in OBEs, will you get visible results. Many astral traveller perceive visible things long before the actual OBE begins. Most common is the viewing of aura colors.

bahamuthat
9th March 2012, 08:28 PM
well i bought myself an eye-mask for practicing inner vision. so far i only got some entoptic phenomena.

thank you for the reply's and suggested exercises. i will do this and report here when i get some success.

thedevil
10th March 2012, 02:43 AM
Hey you gotta watch out for liesbe very cautious abut basically here's what I got to say:

The energy you are seeing is the same as Chi, with, life force, vital energy, prana, manna, etc... and its like you say like little atoms of light zipping around yes it's easier to see in the dark there are references to it in Scripture. For example in the book of John it says the lightis shining in the darkness and the darkness has not overpowered it etc... because of the nature of hubris it can be difficult to discern the truth( it seem ridiculous and t is which is why it works/ is brilliant) ....


The main thing is to keep being self aware. Always remember You are here to experience the truth and that requires to things: yourself mainly and God (in this case the new truth of God you are discovering is his spirit energy that permeates everything)