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ConfusionOrIllusion
8th July 2016, 10:49 AM
Are there (astral training rooms) avalibe for the people who have hard time worries and doubts and fears? If people like me want to surrender to higher forces in charge, can we ask them to bring us to such training places for our first time, where no fears and doubts can manifest without their permission?

Just a simple yes or no question! :thumbsup:

CFTraveler
8th July 2016, 04:43 PM
No, it's not a simple yes or no answer.
You're assuming the astral is a place with rooms.
You create your experience, consciously or unconsciously. Visualize training rooms, read about training rooms, and you will more than likely get training rooms.
Yes, there are experiences of training, but you usually get those after you've gotten a few experiences and have explored here and there.
You can also seed your dreams and try to get dreamstate lessons.

ConfusionOrIllusion
8th July 2016, 06:07 PM
Can my (guides) create those places for me as well?

ConfusionOrIllusion
8th July 2016, 06:10 PM
I just want to be in an ordered realm with higher forces at charge that control the whole enivorment. Is this a possibility for me yes or no???

It's like we all stand togheter looking at a screen and those (beings) at my side will communicate about the problems with me?

CFTraveler
8th July 2016, 07:54 PM
Sometimes, but not right away. It took me more than three years of conscious deliberate projecting to get the 'guide at my side' treatment.

ConfusionOrIllusion
9th July 2016, 09:07 AM
Can you visit heavenly realms?

IA56
9th July 2016, 10:45 AM
Can you visit heavenly realms?

What´s wrong with you???
Stop asking and start working to get your answeres!

Love
ia

ConfusionOrIllusion
9th July 2016, 10:56 AM
What's wrong with me??? :whatthe:

:shrug:

I just don't expect Satan like entities to pop up that will ruin and frighten my whole experience!! :evil: especially as an first timer.

The order of the universe should grant me the experience i deserve, in safety and lessons. Otherwise, i spit on this imbalanced, unreasonable universe.

My first time experience should get handled with RESPECT and SAFETY. :banghead:

susan
9th July 2016, 11:12 AM
ConfusionOrIllusion,
I'm going to say something you probably won't like and once again this is only my own opinion based on my own journey and learning of other people's experiences.
Firstly, NO! I don't think you will have the opportunity at this stage to visit heavenly realms.
You are trying to short cut the process and I don't think it can work like that.
I think that if you tried right now and worked on raising energy and leaving body, if you succeeded it would only last for a few seconds because fear would overtake excitement.
You are wanting re-assurance that you can call the shots and have it your way but we all have to learn.
I think the learning process is organised only its us who dis- organises by our thoughts and fears.

Please take baby steps and digest all the good information everyone here has given you.
Once you have....condition your mind to peace and pleasant thoughts....
No one here is able to give you the guarantee that your looking for.
Wishing you success.

ConfusionOrIllusion
9th July 2016, 11:35 AM
Will i still see entities against my will??

IA56
9th July 2016, 11:43 AM
Will i still see entities against my will??

If it is what you need to see you will see even you think you do not want to see.
What you want and what you need is 2 different things. Human is lazy by nature and do NOT know what is best for him/her so we have to be forced to evolve. It is pure LOVE even it feels not.
Know that we are highly loved and everything is for our best.

Love
ia

dontco
9th July 2016, 11:56 AM
IMO, beginners don't meet real entities in the beginning. Especially not on the first time. But anyway, nothing can harm you in the astral! physically, you will still be fine. Nothing will happen to your physical body. You will go out of the body and come back good as new! and I trust that you will tell us how it was. But you'll have to try first. From my experience, you always can ask others, but the answer that will sound good to you must come from the inside, from your own being.

So start practicing so you can go OOB and find your own answers. That way you will be able to tell them to people in the future who will ask! :thumbsup:

I advise that a quote you should always keep in mind is:
"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing!"
-Helen Keller

Sinera
9th July 2016, 09:48 PM
Can my (guides) create those places for me as well?

Your guides can create situations and simulations for you. But that does not mean it will be 'nice' or cozy all the time.

To quote Kurt Leland:


Simulations are dreamlike environments in which we master skills pertaining to the astral body and plane. These environments are usually created and maintained by Facilitators–highly evolved souls who are working in nonphysical reality while between lifetimes on the physical plane. They’re usually more focused and intense than the average dream. They set a problem or task and often repeat themselves until the problem has been resolved or the task has been accomplished.
http://www.kurtleland.com/astral-projection-log/2010/199-the-lowest-four-subplanes-of-the-astral-plane


Ask your guides for learning experiences and to create them for you. Maybe this is the best way. You can trust them. As said, you might encounter difficulties and unpleasant things there. But it is like in the physical world too. Why would you expect everything to be a heavenly fairytale in the astral? Go for it and accept what they throw at you, just like you accept life's struggles in this world.

ConfusionOrIllusion
10th July 2016, 09:24 AM
Yes i mean, i want to overcome my fears while being completely protected at the presence of my guide(s).