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IA56
8th March 2017, 08:31 AM
Hi Timothy,

You are good at numbers...one´s you said that 25 ment...the day at hand...

What can number 16 mean...and number 70 mean??

Love
ia

Timothy
8th March 2017, 01:56 PM
Another Language http://youtu.be/CaONrrchmg8

1929

Back To Beginning http://youtu.be/MakVsJ50-Iw

What's interesting about these two: 16 & 70

Let 70 = 100% ; where 70/100 = 0.7

Content lost...aarggg !

Has to do with Genesis 46 and James 1:1 (%percentages%)(100% sum of parts)(body of whole)

Sagacity...Isaac

Time's Great
1926
Soap Opera

But what of Sagacity...Ishmael...(Esau having sold his rightful heirship to Jacob, feathers back in here)...

God's Promise to Abraham [Sarah/Isaac][Keterah*]| God's Promise to Ishmael [Hagar]

Ref. 2 John

The Familial Politics of Answering to One Family...The Lion of Judah...The Lord IS One

Then there is the added mystery of 5 flocks(Jesus' fulfillment)...lending back to The Exodus [Parting of the Red Sea] from Egypt in to Sinai[*Arabia The Happy*], whereof/in the whole [Jacob's, even Joseph's] split off into 5 fingers of One Hand.

1927
Truth, Lies and In Between

1928
TRUTH

INTERNATIONAL
1931
WOMEN'S DAY
03/08/2017

••••

Again...let 70 = 100%, where 70/100 = 0.7

16 = 8 + 8, 16(0.7) = 11.2 [the constituents of Zilpah including Herself numbered at 16 given to 2 Tribes(#7Gad,#8Asher)]

100 - 11.2 = 88.8%

1 Father [Jacob] through 4 Mothers = The 12 Tribes of Yisrael

••••

Strong The Root http://youtu.be/aCCUZfz--sE

Abraham's Sons...

III Keterah - Fragrance, Incense, Sacrifice

*Keterah's Sons...numbering six.
3 Zimran - vine dresser, celebrated, song
4 Jokshan - an offense, hardness, a knocking
5 Medan - contention, to twist, conflict
6 Midian - judgement, covering, habit
7 Ishbak - "he will leave"
8 Shua [Sheva/Fifth] - opulence, cry for help, wealth

••••

I Hagar - Flight

1 Ishmael - "God has hearkened" , "the fulfillment of a divine promise" ... *Arabia The Happy*

••••

II Sarai/Quarrelsome~>Sarah/Princess

2 Isaac - "he will laugh/he laughs"

••••

One In The Hand Is Better Than Two In The Bush ... The God Of Jacob

The SOAP of All Soaps ... Page•An•Try/Tri/Tree ... Opera - labor, work, effort

••••

The Spectacle http://youtu.be/nkObbaGJ8IA

Quite "literally" ... In today's [The Day] present World ... We THE PEOPLE ... All of Us ... are witnessing these Brother's [Sons of Abraham] death-locked within a Blood letting massacre against Life (et)and The Living One. Sad thing is ... They are allowing Them Prideful Selves to be steered BLINDLY around by Their sawn off horns ... that [Said Same Horns] up to within Heaven ... Loudly Alert [Shofar] To ... The World (et)and All It's Peoples ......

!!!PEACE!!!PEACE!!!PEACE!!!

1930

We Fall In Love http://youtu.be/S1dEJ_1PiOg

IA56
9th March 2017, 07:27 AM
Thank you Timothy...you have stirred all up for me....would appreaciate if you can say with few easy Words to sum up it all, please.

Love you.

ia

Timothy
9th March 2017, 12:38 PM
World Population Projection 7.5 Billion for Growth 2017

March 2017 Current WP 7,489,568,555 @ 7:44am est

1932
Scattered Broadly

8 Groupings Last Measured @ 6.9 Billion = 100%

Christians 31%
Muslims 23%
No Religion 16%
Hindus 15%
Buddhists 7%
Folk Religionists 6%
Other Religions 1%
Jewish 0.2%

Looks like Zilpah's 11.2% holds (majority) shares within the midst of Hindu<~>Buddhist religious (systemic) paradigms...15%<~>7%. No small number @ 840 million

Hare..Krishna..Hare Krishna nVn Om Mani Padme Hum

○●○●○●

Animal/Plant Populations/Counts = Consumable Food Products

The World's Food Resources to Human population growth ratio peaked in the 1970s, the food resource line plummeting downward as we continued to peak. In the year 2000 these two lines met like twin peaks criss.../X\...crossing...slope to slope. If the year 2000 stood up with both feet together...it would appear as.../Y\...with one hand in the past holding to what it thought to have sustainably had, and the other hand in the (as near) future imagining to grasp what is everybit lost.

Words to easily sum it all up? The moment we remember our having been forgetful for our's... IS ...the same moment that we within our forgetfulness re-member our's.

Twixt artificial and virtual is our's...our REAL...our expressing human Nature imprint within everything that is THAT Nature that is as primordial external imprint as is our's humanly within...primordial internal imprint. Same Same
... Au NaTural ... Teva...as I recently hear tell of It ;)

16 and 70

What we thought to have sustainably achieved proved out to have been our artificiality, what we will equally arrive at having lost..will prove to have been our imagined virtuality.

Like this, "Based upon our past postured artificial (pencil-fvking) thinking toward a current stream of sustainable resources we'd imagined a virtual lasting supply in keeping with our thinking...as if!?"... -or- "..."if pigs could fly"...suddenly had become our priori-science superseding and therein overwhelming NATURE...et all."

Oft said to the "moron" found in their self-made ends, "I reckon bygod...you'd fvk up a wet dream!"

IA56
9th March 2017, 08:20 PM
Right...:wink:

Love
ia

IA56
10th March 2017, 01:25 PM
The question has bean raised...old ways.....or new ways....maybe I have missunderstood it completely....maybe there is things/ways what will Always be the same...in all times??....so what is it....religion has not bean Always...but maybe there is something what has Always existed....what can it be.

I had a disscussion wÃ♥th the yoga instructor...as I understood it auerveda is the oldest texts there is preserved...he rose the question...who taught Jesus??

Maybe I just must dare to trust the inner guidance?? or...??

Love
ia

CFTraveler
10th March 2017, 05:48 PM
I'm going to butt into this conversation, if I may...
In the christian tradition Jesus learned the law of his time by the clergy of his time, and learned to 'go into the wilderness' i.e. meditate in quiet space from his own understanding of God (as a father, not as a ruler).
There are things that, as long as we are who we are, will always be the same- the pernicious dualistic mindset will descend on any belief system even if this belief system is monistic, and people will always want power if they deem power to be from what they perceive with their senses. It is not that archetypes are preexisting (many of what we think of archetypes are not, they're simply cultural constructs) is that true archetypes will always be as long as we're here, in four dimensional existence.

IA56
11th March 2017, 05:55 AM
I'm going to butt into this conversation, if I may...
In the christian tradition Jesus learned the law of his time by the clergy of his time, and learned to 'go into the wilderness' i.e. meditate in quiet space from his own understanding of God (as a father, not as a ruler).
There are things that, as long as we are who we are, will always be the same- the pernicious dualistic mindset will descend on any belief system even if this belief system is monistic, and people will always want power if they deem power to be from what they perceive with their senses. It is not that archetypes are preexisting (many of what we think of archetypes are not, they're simply cultural constructs) is that true archetypes will always be as long as we're here, in four dimensional existence.

Hi CFT,

Nice to hear your comment, are you saying that what ever has bean on Earth is cultural constructs, and will so be as long as we are in four dimensional existence....
Archetypes is it what has bean understood from the beginning of time and will Always be in time....to understand the unseen....or....subtle .....

I am in a state of turbulence and have hard to understand or take in others views....because what is going on is so strong and overpowers other views so to speak...

This turbulence is coming and going in my Life, I have not right understood it and struggle everytime it happens...it makes me to revaluate my beliefs.

So...I might ask same questions on and on again and again....to sort out my own thoughts or what I really belive...I have let thoughts rule me what I have in retrospect regretet...it feels that my time is running out and I must be more sure then ever what I Believe....

Hope you all will have patience with me and give me the time I need to be more sure.

Love
ia

CFTraveler
11th March 2017, 08:03 PM
are you saying that what ever has bean on Earth is cultural constructs, and will so be as long as we are in four dimensional existence... Not exactly, what I mean to say is that humans impose their idea of reality on anything that is, and this may include what starts out as fundamental monistic beliefs (there is only God and nothing else)- someone 'discovers' that all is one, then someone else begins to notice that perception causes dualism to be apparent (but only as an instrument of perception) and then decides that dualism is the 'real' truth, and superimposes the belief in opposites over the original discovery, and no progress is ever made in the philosophical sense.
I have seen so many movements do this that it is very discouraging personally.

IA56
12th March 2017, 08:02 AM
Not exactly, what I mean to say is that humans impose their idea of reality on anything that is, and this may include what starts out as fundamental monistic beliefs (there is only God and nothing else)- someone 'discovers' that all is one, then someone else begins to notice that perception causes dualism to be apparent (but only as an instrument of perception) and then decides that dualism is the 'real' truth, and superimposes the belief in opposites over the original discovery, and no progress is ever made in the philosophical sense.
I have seen so many movements do this that it is very discouraging personally.

Thank you CFT...that is for sure...it is why I can´t be in any Church or group of people...even I do believe all religions have the same core, it is the people who is in the group who do make "own" rules what you have to obey and live ....and if not they start to spread rumers so and so...and soon you will be an outcast....or if you tell the obvious to them it is not falling in good Earth.....this is for sure discouraging personally totally....

Do you think it matters for the afterlife??...where you are going after this liffe??...as I have had dreams about groupings....what seams to have somekind of impact of decides where you belong so to speak?? or is this also fears of mine??

Love
ia

susan
12th March 2017, 12:18 PM
Oh Ia,
If I was you I wouldnt worry one bit about where you are going when you leave here.
Those already there are probably laughing their socks off at all of us trying to understand .
Even those who write books about their experiences dont know it all.
If I could give you any advice, take it or leave it but it's meant kindly.
I was once frustrated at not experiencing beautiful landscapes that have been written about. Why couldnt I?
Do you remember I wrote in the journal one morning that I woke to some beautiful words but couldnt find a pencil to record so when trying to remember the words were clumsy but suggested.

" The destination is not important, but what we do here leads us to our destination".

That is enough for me to think that if you have a kind heart, do your best for yourself and others you have nothing to be concerned about.
Trust your inner guidance and as long as you stay of sound mind and carry on showing the kindness that you do then you may be gently guided.

There's something that bugged me for a while and even frightened me a bit. This thought that we are all one. It doesnt frighten me anymore because I go from what I experience. When I experienced being the little girl for a few seconds but I knew That I was also still ME over in the corner . I knew I was ME but I knew the fears this girl had and why she behaved why she did. I believe as some have written of experiencing of merging minds and knowing everything about this person.
Maybe this is what GOD is. All minds collected together knowing all and everything about everyone and all species. But still able to seperate to our own individuality.
Maybe Im wrong but I doesnt matter to me. I go by this loving inner voice to guide me, and you have one also.
Sorry ,Ive rambled on and may have gone off track a bit here Ia but I only wrote how I think and what I've experienced in the hope you will clear yourself of this fear you hold

Timothy
12th March 2017, 03:43 PM
Not exactly, what I mean to say is that humans impose their idea of reality on anything that is, and this may include what starts out as fundamental monistic beliefs (there is only God and nothing else)- someone 'discovers' that all is one, then someone else begins to notice that perception causes dualism to be apparent (but only as an instrument of perception) and then decides that dualism is the 'real' truth, and superimposes the belief in opposites over the original discovery, and no progress is ever made in the philosophical sense.
I have seen so many movements do this that it is very discouraging personally.

Hi CF,

"...humans impose their idea of reality on anything that is,..."

Exactly. Early print method still existent today. Language~>Spoken~>Written~>Conveyance~>Translated

1947
Imposition Method|16 pages

3 Fold Process:
#1 Folded in half vertically ... pg.2 falls against pg.3
#2 Folded in half horizontally ... pg.4 meets pg.5
#3 Final halves folded ... pg.9 meets pg.8

1948

2 Step To-Ward Completion:
#4 Binding
#5 Trimming

Many of these 16 pagers formatted/numbered correctly will consolidate side by side into books of larger length. Bibli-On

Could be a simple Recipe book...the recipe for ?!what!? depends upon the Reader. A tool for conveying "ideas" into reality.

1949

...-or-...

1950

If we had stock in the "For Dummies"...right? Who knew...it's topically endless....and a hell of a way to get your word out to a greater audience...because most of the time we shrink away from the more authoritatively direct books...cuz let's admit it...we all feel like dummies about most "things"...so "Dummies" is like the key-word inviting us to our easy-entry level.

The ironies of being human...;) ... and mass education that serves "itself" to-ward a world purposefully filled with "dummies" having been given no common ground/human-foundation from which to stand upon in our One anothered meeting.

Overcoming Biblio-Idolatry...

Ref. Rev 5:1 The Lil' Scroll .. Un-Folded .. Un-Bound .. Un-Trimmed .. Un-Biblio'Ed .. Un-Idola-Treed .. Virginal

Yup...Imposition...3 Fold + 2 Steps = 5 = 16 ...nn.... the seed go, !!!!!!BOOM!!!!!!

BOOM Shaka...laka..laka. BOOM http://youtu.be/12_g_5SY3zw

...nVn... cup runneth over...

Wed...
1951
Two Persons/Two Families
1952
Becoming One
1953
...Ding!!!!

LOVE, Reign O'er Me http://youtu.be/FxKsVDWcoEg

When It Reigns...
1954
1955
...It Pours

Holler If Ya Hear Me http://youtu.be/C3A918ihu_Y

Shake Your Buddhi http://youtu.be/3uT4RV2Dfjs

BAD KARMA http://youtu.be/2dRIHt2SJHE Punjabi/Khadi Boli - language used by Kabir

...O' na kar man rupiya Walla bhar bhar ke Na rajji...

...Hey don't believe in money Even if you save lots [you] won't be happy....

DANCIN' http://youtu.be/mlv83tYxAgg

Timothy
12th March 2017, 04:47 PM
??

olyris
12th March 2017, 11:14 PM
16: the number of perfect reality, ie socialism, truth objective, "winning" is remembered here too. a grateful number, but they all are.
70: the number of introspective understanding, ie altruism (also 19), secret money. we forget "losing" with this number (and remember the principle that taught us to be strong, instead!).

what is altruistic socialism? that exists!
what is socialist altruism? that does not!

IA56
13th March 2017, 06:36 AM
Oh Ia,
If I was you I wouldnt worry one bit about where you are going when you leave here.
Those already there are probably laughing their socks off at all of us trying to understand .
Even those who write books about their experiences dont know it all.
If I could give you any advice, take it or leave it but it's meant kindly.
I was once frustrated at not experiencing beautiful landscapes that have been written about. Why couldnt I?
Do you remember I wrote in the journal one morning that I woke to some beautiful words but couldnt find a pencil to record so when trying to remember the words were clumsy but suggested.

" The destination is not important, but what we do here leads us to our destination".

That is enough for me to think that if you have a kind heart, do your best for yourself and others you have nothing to be concerned about.
Trust your inner guidance and as long as you stay of sound mind and carry on showing the kindness that you do then you may be gently guided.

There's something that bugged me for a while and even frightened me a bit. This thought that we are all one. It doesnt frighten me anymore because I go from what I experience. When I experienced being the little girl for a few seconds but I knew That I was also still ME over in the corner . I knew I was ME but I knew the fears this girl had and why she behaved why she did. I believe as some have written of experiencing of merging minds and knowing everything about this person.
Maybe this is what GOD is. All minds collected together knowing all and everything about everyone and all species. But still able to seperate to our own individuality.
Maybe Im wrong but I doesnt matter to me. I go by this loving inner voice to guide me, and you have one also.
Sorry ,Ive rambled on and may have gone off track a bit here Ia but I only wrote how I think and what I've experienced in the hope you will clear yourself of this fear you hold

Thank you wonderful Susan :heart:

I am not worried about the afterlife per ce...only to what group I belong??..or am I going straight to the ONENESS and is why I do not feel or sence my group so to speak??
I have felt like an orphan in this Life...I did think often when I was child...where is my real family?? when do they come and get me home??

It is just this what concernes me a bit.

Love
ia

CFTraveler
13th March 2017, 05:30 PM
This may or may not have something to do with this, but some time ago, maybe last year, I had a wonderful dream. It was a wonderful dream not because of what the place looked like, or what happened (or rather, was supposed to happen) but in how I felt in this dream. I was in a group setting, and around me were people I knew and loved (but no one I know now, I think). Everyone was excited because this one person was about to return to the fold. The setting was like a bar, separated in smaller rooms, and people were in a very festive mood- celebrating that this person was about to arrive. Someone told me he was my 'original' husband, from before I started incarnating. I was very happy, and I was walking to a room with a giant portrait in it. I went to look at the portrait to see if it would tell me who he was, when I woke up. I was in a great mood that day.
I realize this can be interpreted many ways, the 'whole being group soul' being one of them.

IA56
14th March 2017, 06:56 AM
This may or may not have something to do with this, but some time ago, maybe last year, I had a wonderful dream. It was a wonderful dream not because of what the place looked like, or what happened (or rather, was supposed to happen) but in how I felt in this dream. I was in a group setting, and around me were people I knew and loved (but no one I know now, I think). Everyone was excited because this one person was about to return to the fold. The setting was like a bar, separated in smaller rooms, and people were in a very festive mood- celebrating that this person was about to arrive. Someone told me he was my 'original' husband, from before I started incarnating. I was very happy, and I was walking to a room with a giant portrait in it. I went to look at the portrait to see if it would tell me who he was, when I woke up. I was in a great mood that day.
I realize this can be interpreted many ways, the 'whole being group soul' being one of them.

Thank you dear CFT :heart:

That is so comforting, love it.

Love
ia