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olyris
31st August 2019, 11:10 AM
Here is an idea of mine:

What if - Jesus, Buddha, Hitler et all are all just myths created out of natural synthesis. Dogs, cats, birds, fish, trees (knowing that), etc.
Are YOU! going to be a divine purpose of your very own? And what more did it take you than to make your mind up... o

IA56
31st August 2019, 12:52 PM
Hi olyris :heart:.
I am not sure I understand how you mean, but for me it is the other way around….when you develop from nature you have a longing to development forward,
and I Believe that you will go from low to high and high to low so to speak for you have to have experience from all so to say Before you again will have a strong longing forwars. To have a Dream you can never know the outcome or how you will manage the experience and keep it without dropping it so to say.
It is try and error until you make real progress.
All levels have so many facets.

Love
ia

olyris
31st August 2019, 08:27 PM
If you are referring to the socialisation process, I agree totally. However, beyond socialisation process - every master has done this - is a search for inner truth. You might say, the inner truth that unites all past and pending friends in the name of God. At that point... well, the destiny is for all to sieze. Is there a soul without the divine spark? Perfectly not!

IA56
1st September 2019, 09:21 AM
When comes the divine spark?? can it come after many try and error episodes? or is it there from the first stage/facet??

What is destiny?? can you choose your own destiny or is it sat from your choices?? you choose this or that and the destiny changes?? or is it sat from the very beginning??

Love
ia

olyris
1st September 2019, 07:53 PM
When comes the divine spark?? can it come after many try and error episodes? or is it there from the first stage/facet??
The part of you that stays honest, permanently.

What is destiny?? can you choose your own destiny or is it sat from your choices?? you choose this or that and the destiny changes?? or is it sat from the very beginning??
Destiny, I would venture, is the light. Two options with the light: be happy, or live happily too. Much of a muchness...

The difficult question with God in humans is the accusation that they left God in the first place - Yes, I believe they did, but to grow a soul, not to end up in the dark not knowing why!!! o

IA56
2nd September 2019, 06:14 PM
The part of you that stays honest, permanently.

Destiny, I would venture, is the light. Two options with the light: be happy, or live happily too. Much of a muchness...

The difficult question with God in humans is the accusation that they left God in the first place - Yes, I believe they did, but to grow a soul, not to end up in the dark not knowing why!!! o

Yes.
I do Believe the saying….Nothing exists without GOD...so all is good.

I also Believe that we collect knowledge and we reach the Point where we just know….Life is good!

Life is permanent and eternal and everlasting. Period!

Love
ia

olyris
2nd September 2019, 09:14 PM
Yes. I would only venture that "learning the hard way" as psychics put it, does do something for the universe quite unlike ordinary people. It makes people think of themselves. I do believe that is what a "lost soul" wants - some more compatibility. Not much, but enough human sense in their lives to undo the lonely issues. Therapists ask you to trust white light, more or less. I say that hard way wills diamond silver etc light into minds around it. Nobody is here without a very good reason.

IA56
3rd September 2019, 06:40 AM
Yes. I would only venture that "learning the hard way" as psychics put it, does do something for the universe quite unlike ordinary people. It makes people think of themselves. I do believe that is what a "lost soul" wants - some more compatibility. Not much, but enough human sense in their lives to undo the lonely issues. Therapists ask you to trust white light, more or less. I say that hard way wills diamond silver etc light into minds around it. Nobody is here without a very good reason.

Yes. Every Life matters!!

Love
ia