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CFTraveler
5th January 2007, 09:38 PM
I posted this at the OBE research & discussions section, since the 'punchline' is about the impossibility of the scientific method used on remote viewing, but since it basically goes over the evolution of scientific reasoning (more or less) I'll post it here too.
http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article1670.html

Yeah I know. I'm spamming the forums.
:P

Beekeeper
5th January 2007, 10:14 PM
If you were truly spamming here, wouldn't the site be "The hot sexy leather bound Book of Troth semi-naked on a motorcycle"? :D

CFTraveler
5th January 2007, 10:25 PM
and, 'eating a popsicle'.

(spelling error on purpose, teach.)

journyman161
6th January 2007, 01:10 AM
Well... here's my spam answers...


1. IT's not so new to me but it is well put together - some more info on just what were the experiments that are quoted would have been good. Many times I've seen people quote such & have it wrong.

And there is the (in)famous Michelson-Morley ether experiments which supposedly proved the non-existence of the Ether, but when you actually look at them they proved there is one & showed experimental results that weren't duplicated for a couple of decades.

Like the Cold Fusion situation, those in power had a view &^ didn't want it shaken. Even though (in both cases) the 'debunkers' admitted fudging results to get the answers they wanted, somehow it didn't change the perceptions that both had failed.

Just saying, it'd be nice to know just what those experiments into whether the Universe is non-local and delayed choice were about. Guess it's time to crank up Google...


The experiment by Alain Aspect et al is interesting - they were testing the arrival at detectors separated by distance, of two photons produced by the same atom & they found contradictions to what should be seen if the universe is causal. That is, leaving out the lengthy path of logic & evidence, that there is apparently no objective reality out there; it is all based on observation.

I've seen other works that talk about this that seem to explain things but hadn't run across an actual experiment to show it.

For those interested in the science... try here! (http://twm.co.nz/consc_phys.htm)

Beekeeper
6th January 2007, 01:55 AM
and, 'eating a popsicle'.

(spelling error on purpose, teach.)


Oops, missed that one. Clearly need to brush up on the semiotics of pornography.

I wouldn't have picked up on the spelling mistake in any case. We call our icy cold, refreshing, sugary (that's just so JM knows I'm aware :wink: ) phallic symbols "ice blocks" in Australia. (Evocative, isn't it?)

Anyway, I called it the book of "Troth." *Pencils in "careless."* :D

CFTraveler
6th January 2007, 02:05 AM
:lol:

journyman161
6th January 2007, 05:20 AM
I wouldn't have picked up on the spelling mistake in any case. We call our icy cold, refreshing, sugary (that's just so JM knows I'm aware :wink: ) phallic symbols "ice blocks" in Australia. (Evocative, isn't it?)Well I'm not sure where you're from Bee... but everywhere in Oz I've lived we call them Icy Poles...

Beekeeper
6th January 2007, 09:23 AM
Yes, I've heard them called that. In the Sydney metropolitan area, where I grew up, and on the South Coast of NSW, the vernacular is "iceblocks." The kids I teach would think me weird if I called them "icypoles" but they'd understand me, all the same.