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25th March 2007, 03:43 PM
i've been APing for over thirty, but there's some races of humans that aren't very present astrally, or seemed reserved to only certain areas/functions.

caucasians seem to be everywhere. and human-wise they were the only race i saw for a long time. and this has nothing to do with my own physical environment since i grew up in toronto, which is a highly cosmopolitan city. i had an equal blend/balance of just about every race/culture imaginable. i've also been more intrigued by exotic ethnicity my entire life, my step-father was black, my brother is half-black. the bulk of my friends have been asian, african, or caribbean. anyway.

i've spent more time in the astral then anyone i know. in that time i've *only* come across latin americans in situations dealing with aliens & the military, only in a 'migrant worker' type mode. usually working in complexes with produce, and food prep.

i've only come across asians (rarely) in situations that have to do with what i call highly-advanced human civilizations (off-world). one has been the underground city on mars, and the other (lately) is part of a training facility (space-station) for astral-espionage. typically in the medical or science field.

and only twice now have i come across any black folks. and that's just been in the last few months. one was a group of rastafarian's who appeared to have very high-standing astrally. and another i just experienced today...that was a large 'gang' organization with a definite hierarchy. interestingly all the men were black (with the ability to morph into dogs. all the 'typical' fighting/guard breeds...dobermans, pitts, german shepherds.) and all the women were white. the men owned differing numbers of women based on their position of wealth & power. there was also an strange tattooing process where tatts were given for everything. ownership, completed quests, achievement, etc (everyone looked like walking nascars with all the branded logos).

anyway. that's about it. i've yet to encounter any middle eastern people, or many europeans in general.

i regularly come across native americans, but i'm not speaking on an individual basis. i'm just interested in knowing of actual *groups* or cultures others have come across in their travels. human of course.

and i'd have to say that the astral appears (2me) to be more male based & operated. unfortunately! ;)

25th March 2007, 06:32 PM
no one?

no one can say they encounter more women then men, more men then women? any noticeable majority of one race of people over another?

CFTraveler
25th March 2007, 08:04 PM
(Just got back from the weekend out)- Most of my adventures involve caucasians, of the germanic type, or shadow- type beings of the male gender. Not black, like dark and slavic-looking- 'in the shadows'. I'm hispanic, so you'd think I'd have seen more ethnic looking people in the astral, having grown up in PR, but no, mostly tall 'shiny' blondes. And some asian looking people only when I used to get abducted. (At least once), maybe twice.
I'll have to pay more attention next time.

25th March 2007, 08:19 PM
see i find that really interesting since you're hispanic and grew up in that culture/environment. yes. mostly germanic, blondes & the asians (in reference only to abductions for me as well). non-hostile..

and tons of military.

CFTraveler
25th March 2007, 08:52 PM
and tons of military. That too. Once I ended up in what seemed to be an underground bunker. I wondered if I'd been recruited all of a sudden and didn't know it.

U-Mos
26th March 2007, 03:19 AM
there may be a reason for that

and by the way "underground city on mars" must know details

26th March 2007, 03:44 AM
of course there's a reason! :roll: :wink:
what do you run up against astrally??? is it friendly? is it sinister?

mars. yes, have been there a few times. too much to explain, but if you're interested you can some here (http://www.gatesofmysticism.net/phpBB2/weblog.php?w=6&sid=dc045f02fd5446a5f961eda0922aaada)

CFTraveler
26th March 2007, 11:56 AM
This may have nothing to do with this (or maybe it does) but on the latest 3 or 4 projections, including the night before last night, I haven't been able to leave the earth's orbit. I tried again and always get bounced back down at the topmost layer (at least how I process it). Is this or anything similar happening to anyone else?
I have had thoughts that maybe there's something I have to do 'down here' before I'm allowed to go back 'out there', but I don't know- is it just me, or a more generalized phenomenon?

26th March 2007, 12:46 PM
some of each i think, where there are cosmic elements that effect travel, and elements on an individual basis. if you're guts telling you it's something you have to do...that's probably it.

i know the sun is at solar minimum, officially. i think that has a lot to do with it. it's set for maximum around 2010-2011. more here. (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=718) the moon is also a big factor, effecting your own biorhythm, as well as the earth in general.

there might also be something to where you want to head specifically. i've never thought of the astral as part of the galaxy system, like heaven i guess. i don't think of it as "up". to me it's something that surrounds me on all levels and there's no end to how one can get there. i guess if i thought about it as an actual destination. i'm thinking about the idea that people get to destinations by car or plane. if those aren't available...they can't get to where they going. but there's bikes, motorcycles, walking, boats, lost of other options. of course none of that 'really' applies to astral travel. it seems that when people think of it as someplace specific it limits getting there.

not saying that's the case for you, but for anyone else that might be reading this. i guess the ideas are closer to heaven. where it's put across that there's only one way to get there. "accept jesus christ into your life"!
and that creates a whole other picture...of some guy named j.c. that you have to invite in, and a whole bigger picture behind that, of not pissing off the big guy behind him. it's all very linear, with specific rules, and as such becomes extremely limited (imo).

anyway...no one way to get out of here for sure! and never really one specific destination. i do find i go through cycles that are very quiet. and for me that's odd, bcuz i've been projecting regularly for over 3 decades. :shock: make me sound old! ;) i use those odd occasions to catch up on sleep! (which...i've not been doing regularly for over 3 decades!)
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faerylight
26th March 2007, 03:17 PM
This is not an astral experience, or maybe it is...

Years ago, when things were WAY TRIPPY for me, I kept getting this theme, over and over again, about "foreigners". I took it to be a metaphor for "alien" races. I had A LOT of stuff about Asians too. Some of the other foreigners did not like the Asians and vice versa. I would get other stuff like directions that would indicate foreigners - some were South, the Asians were East, some were West. Anyhow, some groups of these foreigners did not get along at all, some races were messing with humanity, some were helping, some were enslaved and angry.

My boss at my job during the thick of this wacko stuff was not a nice man - he reminded me of something of a puppet of some bigger entity, trying to gobble up undeveloped land (I worked for a company that would buy undeveloped land and sell mitigation credits to companies). I talked to my father one day and told him my boss was from Texas. My dad said, and this made me freak out a bit, although it is a fairly common joke : "You go East till you smell it and South until you step in it". The way he said it gave me the willies and it felt like that strange double speak thing that was going on a lot with me during those times - where people would say something but it had several layers of info in it. It felt like a warning to me that my boss was working with "aliens" from the South - which were not friendly. I also remember when my boss was handing me something, two people in the office JUMPED IN to intercept to make sure we did not touch eachother. WEIRD I TELLS YA, WEIRD!!!

I also got stuff about German folk, Nazi's in particular. I remember hearing an Art Bell show where someone called in and said the Nazi's were responsible for polluting the air. When I heard this, something in me 'clicked' and I understood it to mean that the "air waves" were not clean, you know, telepathic stuff. Weird man, very, very weird times. Seemed also to correspond to colors for me, the colors being Green, Yellow and Red.

This was during the time that felt like one big neverending LSD trip for me. Sometimes I wonder if I was caught up in some sort of Astral War and maybe I was blown open a bit and seeing this consciously, which really f'd with my head.

CFTraveler
26th March 2007, 03:39 PM
muse wrote:

there might also be something to where you want to head specifically. i've never thought of the astral as part of the galaxy system, like heaven i guess. i don't think of it as "up". to me it's something that surrounds me on all levels and there's no end to how one can get there. Well, I've never thought of that way either, except that in my head the physical universe would qualify as the RTZ, just 'big'. I have been in situations where I'm floating in 'outer space', aware that it's prob. my interpretation of 'inner space', but have wondered if there is a way to actually going to any of the planets 'out there' and seeing the RTZ there, so I've done the 'up' thing, not because it's the only way to go, but because I've done it before, and it's been the most scary, visual and fun, all at the same time. But I've never arrived at a 'planet'. But lately I've had the drive to do it, (almost a compulsion, frankly) but no dice. It's like there's a rubber band in the 'uppermost' layers, which bounces me back.

CFTraveler
26th March 2007, 03:57 PM
This is not an astral experience, or maybe it is...



I also got stuff about German folk, Nazi's in particular. I remember hearing an Art Bell show where someone called in and said the Nazi's were responsible for polluting the air. When I heard this, something in me 'clicked' and I understood it to mean that the "air waves" were not clean, you know, telepathic stuff. Weird man, very, very weird times. Seemed also to correspond to colors for me, the colors being Green, Yellow and Red.



You may find this of interest. I recommend that everyone read this:
http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=188

faerylight
26th March 2007, 04:57 PM
I gotta tell ya, that gives me the creeps man. Ya, during those years I picked up something along the lines of a few Texans working with Foreigners on some sort of evil plot. Strange to see someone else has this idea too. Wonder what that's about. Anytime I would try to talk to anybody about this back then they would just look at me, with blank stares and each one always said "I don't know what you're talking about", like some stepford robot or something.

Yikes, just thinking about those times again makes me feel a bit breathless and upset. My fragments are not fully OK with what happened back then me thinks.

Aunt Clair
28th March 2007, 11:32 AM
In the Astral I see demographics commensurate with that realm .In the Etheric of Paris I see French mostly and tourists similarly in Peru mostly Peruvians

.In the astral over Baltimore MD USA I saw many young black males . I suspect that identification with a geographic location affords peoples who populate those locales in real time , a hang out more easily attained in the etheric and in the wilder more chaotic astral streams above the ethereal planes.

I do not believe that any race has a proclivity for projecting today but I do believe that historically some indigenous groups had a greater propensity for projection and as such the native peoples whether in North America , South America or Australia etc would find that their ties to the energies and magick of homelands made them more capable of OBE there .
Thus aboriginal elders were able to OBE and remote view while being clairvoyantly witnessed by their own . So the native American shaman , the Tibetan , the African etc . Only Euros seem to lack this spiritual heritage .

Of special interest to this topic are the hitsananom /anasazi & the African slaves who projected and taught this method of escapism from the horrors inflicted upon them by fellow humans . ...an interesting children's book The People Could Fly .

I truly believe we are all one and that the race we incarnated into this life is not the only heritage we have had.

Robert Bruce believes in racial karma and suspects , as do I, that Indigenous who were cruelly maltreated by Euros become the impoverished addicted ones themselves in a future generation and by this, learn to love and to heal and to stop racism ....eventually .

In the Master Teaching Spirits called Mahatma all races and genders are represented as they are in the avatars and Godhead .

28th March 2007, 01:40 PM
RTZ that seems to be the case as above so below. further out...humans in general are a minority, but i still witness white, male (mostly military) infestation.

i'm not convinced that all humans are equal. seems to be a major glitch with the white-european's!!! they seem to like messing up the natural system, actually seem hell-bent on imposing their system on everything globally, and off-world as well. there's a lot of speculation & some highly intriguing research around the whole idea of the 'aryan' thing being alien to this world. something they'll actually admit to themselves. we don't know anything about how many other worlds are occupied in this galaxy (even this solar system) alone. if there is in deed another planet (or more) that's aryan, and predates our existence...it would explain why the astral seems overrun. just an idea.


that Indigenous who were cruelly maltreated by Euros become the impoverished addicted ones themselves in a future generation and by this, learn to love and to heal and to stop racism ....eventually .
did you mean to say that the europeans who cruelly maltreated the indigenous became the impoverished?!? that statement confuses me a bit.
what is *impoverished addicted*???
i think i could be suffering from that! :lol:

Aunt Clair
29th March 2007, 08:10 AM
that Indigenous who were cruelly maltreated by Euros become the impoverished addicted ones themselves in a future generation and by this, learn to love and to heal and to stop racism ....eventually .
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what is *impoverished addicted*???did you mean to say that the europeans who cruelly maltreated the indigenous became the impoverished?!?

Yes for example ,Indigenous nations of people living in the USA were slaughtered , displaced and warehoused on reservations. Today survivors of many nations live in poverty on reservations and alchoholism is an issue.

Elders of American and Australian indigenous peoples have called alchohol white man's poison vecause it is not broken down the same way in other races . This perpetuates the damage done to the future generations .

There exists a theory that racial karma ie from slavery and genocide is punished by being reincarnated as a child of oppressive poverty in the race one persecuted . In this way slave masters become ghetto kids and US Calvary who slaughtered natives become the native living on a reservation .

We are all one of that I am confident and acts of non love cause the bully in this life to be a victim inanother .

The way to break free from karmic debt is to forgive and love one another .