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sono
5th April 2007, 04:50 AM
I'd really appreciate it if someone who has experience could explain these sensations to me, please? For the last few days I have experienced tingling/electric/pins & needles sensations VERY strongly in the following places: the crown of the head, tip of nose (!), all around right eye area, chin, an oblique line up into the area above the right ear, shooting sensations down inside of right arm & leg, & under both feet but mostly the right one, all with a feeling of "unreality", disorientation, slight dizziness & nausea. . . .
I have been sleeping very deeply with magnets under both feet & one taped to the forehead, & felt vibrations almost as soon as I lay down (which I have never had before when lifting out of body) & seen "light displays" - could this be the result of the magnets, just energy surges, or something not related to any of this? My family wants to send me to a doctor & I am resisting until I have more experienced opinions! There also seems to be "something important" that happened to me a few nights back, but which I can't recall, except for a flash here & there. . . .

Thank you!

journyman161
5th April 2007, 05:35 AM
Just a thought - magnets are directional - the 'south' end is different to the 'north' end. If you can ID the ends, try placing the magnet on your forehead the other way around & see if the tingling switches to the other side of your body.

If you can't ID which end is which, try marking one end & see if you can try it one way the first night & the opposite the next night & note any changes.

My thinking is this: the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body & vice versa. Maybe the magnet is affecting the signals from the brain or nerves on a particular side. There is plenty of evidence of magnetic fields effecting the body - chiropractors & others use them & you are using them precisely because they can effect things.

How strong are the magnets? The stronger they are the more effect they would have.

sono
5th April 2007, 05:54 AM
Thanks for the prompt response!! The 2 magnets I use under the feet are from a computer hard drive, I tape them with the positive sides facing onto my skin; the one on the forehead is jsut a basic round magnet, only one side available/open to use so am not sure there. . . .

SORRY, I SEEM TO HAVE MESSED UP THE FIRST TIME I TRIED TO POST THIS RESPONSE BY POSTINGA QUOTE!!

Korpo
5th April 2007, 08:29 AM
Hello, sono.

I can only contribute so little.

About magnets I think that it is important that they are aligned all in the same direction polewise, furthermore I think different directions up- and down-wise have different effect - one calming and one enhancing.

On the crown of the head a lot of major energy and minor energy lines meet, it's called the "meeting of a hundred lines" amongst other things. This and the perineum (its counter-pole) are regions that can become very active if energy flows, as clearings proceed.

If you have like me a rather strongly blocked right side, sensations will concentrate there. The major interior right channel for example runs from crown of right eye through throat, right shoulder nest (between neck and end point of shoulder approx.) and then straight down till the ground. It also connects to the right arm throught the axle (is this the word??).

Energy sensations at the feet can result from micro-blockages releasing for your Earth connections, this can make the feet hot (but not painfully hot).

If you are feeling unreal and disoriented and have light flashes I think you are ungrounded. Grounding gives a connected, earthed feeling over time. Try to drop all the excess energy you can find down into the ground through your feet. It seems to me you have yet to clean your pathways and the energy that has come lose is ungrounded and exciting you unnecessarily.

I'm absolutely no expert on magnets, but having one in your face before third eye or similar places does not sound a good idea to me unless you have a precise reason and know what you're doing.

All the stuff you describe seem like energy sensations to me, but that does not exclude a body problem that has to be treated, Anyway - seeing a doctor is never a bad idea. It's better to know early on if there's something serious afoot than wait it out... You can do all the alternative medicine and energy work you like and still respect a medical professional's opinion. If the doctor finds anything, go with it and treat it. If the doctor is really just poking around and cannot come up with something except a barrage of test after test, you may find more solace in alternative medicine. But I would not rule out Western medicine, as it is extremely good in dealing with shock and any condition that needs to be dealt with immediately, while the Eastern medicine is better with healing chronic illnesses and making one whole again.

Please take good care and wish you the best,
Oliver

sono
5th April 2007, 08:46 AM
Thanks, Korpo! You seem to know a great deal about energy etc., am sure you are right . .btw I am using the magnet on the forehead to help awaken clairvoyance, I read about this practise on another site (can't recall where!)

Korpo
5th April 2007, 11:05 AM
Hello, sono.

I'm learning it the hard way, at least sometimes.

I know many of the stuff you are experiencing, especially as you are as myself more blocked on the right side.

BTW, I have the problem with the nose as well. I think it comes from wearing heavy glasses and from frowning. For example smiling relaxes it. And feels good. :)

Another example - when I tried MAP I got right light cramps and spasms. The energy was running into the blockages there, and having nowhere to go immediately it converted into muscle tensions.

One thing I think you could do, if familiar with NEW, you could use the sponging/brushing and bouncing actions on blocked body parts. Like you described. Try to hit the resistances, but do not force hard. Try to weaken it a bit a time. When you feel exausted, drop the energy into the ground below the feet. And then, afterwards, switch to Robert's energy raising actions to draw new energy into the sub-navel storage that will be available to heal the exhausted, unblocked spots. Limit practise time sharply at first. Keep doing it every day, and stay in check with the forum how's it going because many people here have a lot of experience with NEW. Robert's new NEW tutorials are really great and detailed.

As for the clairvoyance, I'm not clairvoyant myself. But from reading Robert's books and other I think activating the third eye works like this, that you first try to unblock your etheric body, the source of your physical energy and wordly activities, but your stepping stone into the subtle and astral as well. Develop this with energy work. Clear blockages. Make your energy flow and become vibrant, confident and alive.

Then you can use some of the "Mastering Astral Projection" and NEW techniques for stimulating the third eye into opening, granting you experience of the unseen world. But Robert himself states it takes a good energy base, some skill, and maybe even some natural disposition, though in the end, hard work ♥♥♥♥♥s talent over and over, I think. :)

Wish you the best and take good care,
Oliver

Korpo
5th April 2007, 11:25 AM
P.S.:

The sensations you describe remind me strongly of blocked energy channels in the early stages of coming alive. The sensations are those of energy hitting blockages, which can among other things trigger several physical conditions.

In my own experience I felt nauseous when hitting blockages in the stomach area, felt like choking - while air was going in and out extremely well and breath was deep, I checked! - when working on a throat blockage. Head blockages can trigger headache-like pain, and so on.

Blockages underlie physical sickness, and when you are sick, the feelings the nervous system emits are the feelings you know. This is the standard exchange of energy. Now think of moving energy into blockages as if highlighting them with a lens. The feeling of uneasiness in the throat converts suddenly into a choking, and so on. So it is usually a bit of a sign that things start to unwind in energy work, but needs to be monitored and checked against by the practitioner still with great care.

About the feeling of disassociation - fueling the energy body can lead to this, and grounding should help against this. Furthermore in Five Element Theory (FET) from TCM disassociation is connected with the Earth element, and with the spleen. Its positive counterpart is grounding and a feeling of balance.

Honestly I was not convinced of FET till lately. I sometimes thought of it as a piece of bullcrap folk belief to be absolutely hoest to you. And then it changed by practise and experiencing for myself:

I was angry, I repressed it, but I always got angry at random people for the smallest reason, I was not acting on it, but well - the anger remained. But anger and the liver are connected. I "took a look" into my liver when experiencing the anger, and it felt heated and overcharged. I took the energy into the ground. I cleaned my liver from blockages. Not an hour later I was clear and felt extremely sober, calm. The angry thoughts were gone. A change to my liver and its associated liver energy channel had removed an imbalance and calmed my thoughts and emotions.

So maybe it's not a bad idea to do some good things and exercises for your spleen, though I cannot recommend any right now, as I do not work like this. And ground, ground, ground. :)

Regards,
Oliver

sono
5th April 2007, 11:34 AM
Wow, thanks, that is SO interesting! How does one clean the liver?? I had hepatitis (A) when I lived in Thailand some years back & have never felt quite well in the liver - can't eat fatty foods, etc & ALSO have a short temper! I take Biochemical tissue salts for it. . .

Korpo
5th April 2007, 11:47 AM
Well, I was working with energy work I was doing, and I guess one could get very similar results with NEW and the Etheric Wrap action, and brushing the liver and grounding that energy that is removed from those blockages. But if you are sensitive there and already have a liver condition I would closely consult with a physician to check on you while working with the liver, be extremely careful. And ground a lot.

Acupuncture on the liver merdian should help as well.

Furthermore there are Qigong movement that open those channels, like the ancient Five Animal Frolics. Each one corresponds with an element and embodies certain animal moves to open the corresponding channels. Important for you would be the Bear (liver and Wood element) and the Monkey (spleen and Earth element).

I have a book on such Qigong from a very nice guy, but I do not know whether I can recommend it, as there is some truely excellent Qigong and standing meditation in there and some practises I'd only touch with extreme caution. It's a mixed bag, and maybe I'm too cautious. It's "Secrets of Living Younger Longer" by Michael Mayer, and it describes the animal practices quite well, and breathing, and standing meditation... It's a worthwhile read, but I would not practise certain things in it. I do not know any other book I could recommend, so I give you this and maybe you find another and tell me. :)

Take good care,
Oliver

sono
5th April 2007, 11:52 AM
Thanks for all the trouble you have taken to help!!
I'll definitely try to get the book you mention. . . do you know of any reason WHY one would be blocked on the right side like this? I also have (I think) a throat chakra blockage (used to be a singer) & when using NEW I feel as if I'm being strangled when I get to the throat area.

Korpo
5th April 2007, 12:16 PM
Hello, sono.

Don't think of it as trouble, it's a thing I like doing. :)

No, I do not know why this is so, and I would pretty much like to know myself!

I've read most people are blocked more strongly on one side than on the other, so this is no big surprise. I guess it's one of the imbalances that life slowly works into you.

I entertained the thought that being rather left-brainey/intellectual could be a factor, as the activity there would take up and effect the energy of the side it influences (the brain hemispheres steer the opposite side of the body respectively), but I am not really sure, it's just a thought. So for the statistics - are you more intellectually minded or do you do a lot of creative things as well to balance that (doing things with extreme thought instead of in their natural flow would make making music left-brainy as well - damn those theories!)?

The throat area, especially in front, seems to be blocked in our societies very often, at least I read so. I do not know why. Maybe we lie too often... ;) But it is good you know what is blockage and what is not, and keep working on it. :)

Oliver

Nnonnth
5th April 2007, 12:40 PM
Hey Sono,

Just wanted to add to Korpo's excellent comments.

The question of why one side or the other happens to be more blocked is related to the roles of the left and right sides themselves. My observation is that (although it runs contrary to things some have said to me) the left side relates to yin or feminine energy, whilst the right relates to yang or masculine.

For example, I have often observed that those whose relationships with their mothers were more strong than with their fathers will be more open on the left than on the right, and vice-versa. This is not a hard and fast rule I expect, but it does seem to be true more often than not.


As for the throat thing, this is in my opinion NOT IN ANY WAY because in the west we are all liars! I suggest putting that negative thought to one side...

I have been investigating this for a while and my conclusion is that the reason for the throat blockage is that most people in the west feel foricbly silenced by their culture. What I have observed is incomplete as yet but it's something I'm working on alot.

It seems that, especially with people who watch screens alot, and even more especially with TV, energy builds up around the eyes and at forehead level which then interferes with the throat. The route tends to be back-of-head to collarbones, with some fairly heavy shoulder tensing on the way.

There are two reasons for this in my opinion, but at the moment I can only talk about the first one because the second is too speculative.

With many many people being wage slaves or slaves to educational establishments, quite often now we are seeing people who from their earliest days form as strong relationships with images on screens as they do with real people - in fact I think it is ultimately the majority - but who are not in any sense living a life that they find meaningful in reality. They are not living THEIR life in other words.

Images on screens do not however react to the person. What happens as a result is a feeling in the person that with many important things they hardly exist. They are seeing many things to which they have a strong reaction - be it porn or wars in Iraq or great environmental disasters - but the reaction is forced down by the fact that the screen does not listen back. This gradually takes away the person's voice, their sense that speaking at all would be of help with anything.

This psychological explanation may seem a little farfetched, but perhaps some part of it rings true for you, I don't know?

Best NN

Korpo
5th April 2007, 12:48 PM
For example, I have often observed that those whose relationships with their mothers were more strong than with their fathers will be more open on the left than on the right, and vice-versa. This is not a hard and fast rule I expect, but it does seem to be true more often than not.


Mother person, cannot really argue with you there. :)



It seems that, especially with people who watch screens alot, and even more especially with TV, energy builds up around the eyes and at forehead level which then interferes with the throat. The route tends to be back-of-head to collarbones, with some fairly heavy shoulder tensing on the way.


Sounds very sensible to me, as I am a screen worker, have partial throat blockage, and shoulder tension. Sounds like a wonderful theory, how do you come up with this stuff? It does not cease to amaze me. 8)

Is the other theory really too "speculative"?

Bye,
Oliver

sono
5th April 2007, 01:02 PM
This is an amazing theory, really resonates with me too! I also spend my life at a computer screen nowadays. . . . .(going off home now for the "long weekend") so all the best and thanks for all the responses once again! Have much food for thought now. . . .

Korpo
5th April 2007, 01:04 PM
As for the throat thing, this is in my opinion NOT IN ANY WAY because in the west we are all liars! I suggest putting that negative thought to one side...


Oh, I don't meant it this way - it was just a joke! Seems to have turned into a "choke" on the way over the internet. Damn puns! :)

No, I just remembered something from chakra theory, so I made that joke. Also from an Aunt Claire post, about which chakras open when and what it signifies. But I guess not being able to "raise one's voice" in matters that one has at heart could be a reason as well. No joke this time.

Oliver

Korpo
5th April 2007, 01:05 PM
Have a nice easter weekend.

Bye,
Oliver

Nnonnth
5th April 2007, 01:07 PM
Hey Korpo,


Sounds like a wonderful theory, how do you come up with this stuff? It does not cease to amaze me.


Well I meet alot of people, try to heal some of them, notice things, think about them... I talk to spirits too... I don't know, the same way anyone comes up with anything I guess!



Is the other theory really too "speculative"?


Well yeah it really is for now. Maybe later this year. If I say it starts to intertwine with conspiracy ideas that may ring something off for you, combined with what I already said. When I know more I will share it!

best NN

Korpo
11th April 2007, 01:43 PM
So, sono, any changes over Easter?

Oliver

sono
12th April 2007, 04:52 AM
Hi, hope you enjoyed the Easter break - I did & feel a lot more "solid", although I didn't have time to actually ground energy etc as I had a house guest. Have been carefully trying the "5 Tibetan Rites" (here at work as I get in very early!) & the first "spinning rite" makes me feel I could simply slip out of the body. . has anyone else tried these? There is so much to learn, so little time, & I tend to mix & match techniques, which I'm sure is not a good thing? Oder?

Namaste

Korpo
12th April 2007, 07:55 AM
Well, sono, it strongly depends.

(Not a very useful sentence 8) )

My experience is that you look for a core practise you can practise to good depth, and onto that understanding then can possibly craft other things. Either a deeper practise of the same "kind", or if you feel or intuit a need, other practices from other schools.

Like for now I personally am doing Taoist Qigong, Taiji and sitting, moving and standing Taoist meditation for myself. This does not exclude that in the future after certain issues within myself have been recognised and my belief systems have broken up I freely chose to continue on a Hermetic path instead, who knows?

But at the start, before any real commitments are made, you should not mix and match, as you cannot recognise the interactions you are exposing yourself to. You can do "serial monogamy" though, and practise several different schools one after another to a certain depth to get their feeling. For me that was Monroe OBE projecting, the MAP programme, Zen meditation and now finally my Taoist practice. But I do have no real need anymore to mix that with other stuff I come by, though I keep open and interested. I will continue down this path until something changes deeply and permanently within me and then look what this change requires of me.

The "butterfly attitude" ;) of fluttering around wildly and trying to do many things at once will prevent you to do the things you do with enough depth to fathom their true potential. Consistent practise and developing a sense for subtlety and detail, staying conscious and aware about one practices can deepen almost any practise so significantly that it may seem there is no end, but then the techniques will transform and transmute into their most beautiful and powerful expressions. Sooner or later you have to chose which way to stick to, not by being impressed what people say, but what your "within" tells you you need to do and what resonates within you. Be it Yoga, Hermetic/Qaballah, Taoist, Buddhist, Sufi, or whatever.

Sorry to be ranty. Just my "two cents". :wink:

Oliver