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26th May 2007, 09:24 PM
Spiritism and Channeling, Robert says:

See my article 'Popular Model conundrum' on the following page
This discusses some of Kardec's work, spiritism, and other things. Spiritism is based on the words of channelled spirits. It is what you make of it. Some of it is good, some (in my opinion) is a bit dubious. Take what works for you. Use personal experience where possible to link to the truth of what you read. Do not believe everything you read that comes from spirits. Just because its a spirit does not mean its authentic or that it is telling the entire truth. Personal experience is the best way to ascertain what is true and what is false.
Robert Bruce

My ongoing research into this area shows that there are 'some' genuine higher level spirit beings and guides that communicate with humans, but these are few and far between.

The only reason I have been able to ascertain this, is my advanced knowledge of spiritual and metaphysical matters. This in particular involves things that are generally unknown to the public, but provable and repeatable: concerning the human energy body, the nature of reality, and the nature of Source/God, spiritual beings and spirit entities, etc.

The acid test for any spirit communication is where you ask the hard questions. If the spirit avoids hard questions or is offended, or anything outside of a genuine open discussion, then it immediately becomes apparent that something is wrong.

But on the other hand, angels and advanced spirit beings do exist. I have had many genuine encounters with advanced beings, but as I said in the article, these beings will not sit around chatting about trivial earthly matters on a daily basis.

Higher beings, however, will tend to give cryptic hints and nudges, rather than instructions. However, occasionally you will get a lengthy dialog from one. The truth and level of such things is always apparent. Higher beings will rarely allow discussion, and in truth no discussion is generally needed.

Higher beings are careful not to interfere with the choices we humans have, careful not to overly influence us. They usually give hints, and occasionally warnings, for us to heed or not.

There is something called the Middle Plateau, well known in the Catholic faith, re a discussion I heard between Art Bell and Father Malachi Martin, on Coast to Coast AM, years ago. This is a spiritual level superimposed over the earth that is full of deceiving spirits and astral wildlife and lower beings. This is the area where most channelled spirits hail from. One must move beyond this in order to get into the higher spheres, into the levels where angels and higher beings exist. As far as I can ascertain, this is a fairly balanced view of spiritual planes and how they are set up.

The acid test, again, is where hard repeatable personal experience is put to channeled spirits for discussion. If anything outside of genuine open minded discussion ensues, then red flags arise. Also, there are some spirits that do not have knowledge but are honest, and these will simply say 'I do not know', which is perfectly acceptable.(from: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?1556-Your-ideas-and-Spiritism-(The-Spiritist-Doctrine)&highlight=


Egregore (also "egregor") is an occult concept representing a "thought form" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme. See also: Thought-form, as the term is employed by Janet and Stewart Farrar.

meme: theoretical unit of cultural information, the building block of cultural evolution or diffusion that propagates from one mind to another analogously to the way in which a gene propagates from one organism to another as a unit of genetic information and of biological evolution.

In The Magician, his training and his work, by W. E. Butler, Aquarian Paperback, 1982 (1959), p.155, ... Butler writes that:

"A clear idea of the nature of the magical Egregore, or group form, should be built up in the mind in order that the aspirant may understand what part he plays in the whole complex scheme, and thereby may know how closely he is guided and aided in his chosen work."

Energy work and spirits

The practice of energy work will not of itself attract spirit entities to you. It may, however, make you more aware of spirits.

Body awareness energy work will put you in touch with your energy body, and with your physical body.

Your higher self exists inside you and around you. It is nowhere apart from you. The way to connect with your higher self is through your own body and mind. Become more aware of your body, get to know yourself, and learn to love yourself, and you will encourage your higher self to engage more fully in your life.

Robert Bruce
(from "Ask Robert": http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?1410-Teaching-NEW&p=14026#post14026 )

Medium-Someone who acts as an intermediary (middleman) or channel between two different states of being (CF's definition)
"ability of a person (the medium) to experience and/or to tell others about their experiences of contact with spirits of the dead, spirits of non-corporeal entities, angels, and/or nature spirits. By experiencing these visions, the medium generally claims to allow communication between non-mediumistic people and spirits who may have messages to share."

Servitor/Elemental: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?10394-How-complex-can-thoughtforms-become&highlight=

RB on New Age, channeled information & Spiritism:

Thoughtforms: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?10394-How-complex-can-thoughtforms-become&highlight=