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schizoid
20th February 2020, 02:20 AM
Greetings, I have two questions.

1) Where can I find the material to follow the yogic way to enlightenment?
2) Would you recommend the yogic way, going through everything you have to offer in order (what would that order be?) or both?

Thank you for your time.

olyris
26th February 2020, 03:22 PM
Yoga strengthens the life force, making the body immune to psychological manipulations. With this psyche present in its own power one can take the path to enlightenment. My way of describing this is that you are Yang (postures, when you do them), until you are Yin (breath, during the day), until you are God (unconsciously, as per when you are asleep).

An able psyche has but one thing to do - realise the divine presence.

CFTraveler
27th February 2020, 06:18 PM
I moved this thread because even though it was directed at Robert, someone else chose to participate. Schizoid, if you want to just ask Robert, let me know and I'll do something else with it, or if you don't mind ask again over there.

schizoid
27th February 2020, 09:53 PM
I moved this thread because even though it was directed at Robert, someone else chose to participate. Schizoid, if you want to just ask Robert, let me know and I'll do something else with it, or if you don't mind ask again over there.


I don't mind who answers, as long as I get the correct answer to my question. :D

Rama
28th February 2020, 02:39 AM
I don't mind who answers, as long as I get the correct answer to my question. :D

The highest & purest yogic path I've found is Yogananda Paramahansa. He was the one who brought yoga to the West from inf9a & his book:The Autobiography of a Yogi is well known throughout the world (its been said Steve Jobs had arranged everyone who attended his funeral to be gifted a copy). His disciple, Swami Kriyananda, has founded the Ananda Sangha organisation (it is worldwide). He's one of the purest & most beaityful souls I've come across.
This is their YouTube channel, see if it resonates https://www.youtube.com/user/AnandaWorldwide
They also have some of their yoga & meditation practices here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIEL5UeJROBe16NSwan9JyA

:heart:

schizoid
28th February 2020, 05:57 AM
The highest & purest yogic path I've found is Yogananda Paramahansa. He was the one who brought yoga to the West from inf9a & his book:The Autobiography of a Yogi is well known throughout the world (its been said Steve Jobs had arranged everyone who attended his funeral to be gifted a copy). His disciple, Swami Kriyananda, has founded the Ananda Sangha organisation (it is worldwide). He's one of the purest & most beaityful souls I've come across.
This is their YouTube channel, see if it resonates https://www.youtube.com/user/AnandaWorldwide
They also have some of their yoga & meditation practices here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIEL5UeJROBe16NSwan9JyA

:heart:


Thank you for the reference. :thumbsup:Maybe they have programs like Robert Bruce's, but it seems they don't display it. The programs that Robert Bruce offers seems to offer more than any other place I have found. Assuming the methods work with me. I'm on day 63 of MAP and progress is being made but I'm afraid the 90 day period will end without me experiencing a conscious OBE.

schizoid
28th February 2020, 06:25 AM
An able psyche has but one thing to do - realise the divine presence.

I agree here. I'm trying to find the purest way and haven't found it yet, even though I'm moving forward in my journey.

Rama
28th February 2020, 09:15 PM
Thank you for the reference. :thumbsup:Maybe they have programs like Robert Bruce's, but it seems they don't display it. The programs that Robert Bruce offers seems to offer more than any other place I have found. Assuming the methods work with me. I'm on day 63 of MAP and progress is being made but I'm afraid the 90 day period will end without me experiencing a conscious OBE.

Yes, I agree, the programs Robert offer seem very well constructed & as he mentions, "what works, works!". For example I've tried million of different "spiritual" tricks to get rid of a psychic attack on me, to this day, after many years, nothing helped except Robert's banishment method (I'm eternally grateful to him). Everyone has a different path that works for them, otherwise the world would be boring. Follow what resonates with you & discard the rest. Not evzriine likes apples, & nor does it agree with everyone! ;)

Rama
28th February 2020, 09:19 PM
PS. They are one of the purest I've found, although all spiritual paths are pure, the purity is mostly dependent on the intention of the one following them. Remember you can't be 100% pure on this plane, Earth is too polluted, you wouldn't be able to survive, unless you become a Saint or an Avatar. Trust me I've tried for many years. People try to take advantage of you. I don't know much, it's just my experience. :?
I've heard this was the words of Christ, but am not 100% sure, "be as innocent as a lamb but as cunning as a snake". We gotta survive somehow! :wink:

olyris
29th February 2020, 03:59 AM
Here is what I did, if you are dedicated.
Asanas (postures) as I have detailed below are Yang. When in, say "downward dog," I chose to do the fire breathing. My thinking was that this was omnipotence, fire breath plus the yoga stretch. How is that not great Yang?..

olyris
29th February 2020, 04:03 AM
I've heard this was the words of Christ, but am not 100% sure, "be as innocent as a lamb but as cunning as a snake". We gotta survive somehow! :wink:
To make the world work with one's attitudes and not one's presumptions.

schizoid
29th February 2020, 06:35 AM
Here is what I did, if you are dedicated.
Asanas (postures) as I have detailed below are Yang. When in, say "downward dog," I chose to do the fire breathing. My thinking was that this was omnipotence, fire breath plus the yoga stretch. How is that not great Yang?..


I may try these postures out. I was more under the impression that there was a yogic way to enlightenment (a combination of meditation techniques and postures) and that is what I'm seeking. But it may not exist. I used to do yoga 30 minutes a day, I may have to take that back up.

Rama
29th February 2020, 03:33 PM
I may try these postures out. I was more under the impression that there was a yogic way to enlightenment (a combination of meditation techniques and postures) and that is what I'm seeking. But it may not exist. I used to do yoga 30 minutes a day, I may have to take that back up.

Hi.
Yes that's exactly what they do. A combination of spiritual practices/meditations & yoga. I don't know too much, you'd have to ask them. They have a support online form where you can post questions:
https://www.ananda.org/ask/creating-a-protective-aura/
They also highly recommend the Yogananda Energization Exercise (on YouTube also).

schizoid
1st March 2020, 04:10 AM
Hi.
Yes that's exactly what they do. A combination of spiritual practices/meditations & yoga. I don't know too much, you'd have to ask them. They have a support online form where you can post questions:
https://www.ananda.org/ask/creating-a-protective-aura/
They also highly recommend the Yogananda Energization Exercise (on YouTube also).

I'm going to ask them if their teachings lead to enlightenment or just a increase in awareness and physical fitness.

olyris
1st March 2020, 12:26 PM
I'm going to ask them if their teachings lead to enlightenment or just a increase in awareness and physical fitness.
In my own experience of yoga, the enlightenment of self is technically second-hand. Much like the analogy of a horse and cart, whereby physical fitness is pushing the horse, whereas enlightenment is spending the day in the cart, lol.

Rama
1st March 2020, 06:16 PM
I'm going to ask them if their teachings lead to enlightenment or just a increase in awareness and physical fitness.

:lol2:of course it does! You're very funny. They have a very deep (& disciplined) spiritual practice it seems. That's why I said it's not for me. I don't like following routines & structures & not disciplined.just watch some of their videos on their talks (not yoga or physical exercises). You'll get the feeling of what they are about. Especially Swami Kriyananda ����

schizoid
2nd March 2020, 02:59 AM
In my own experience of yoga, the enlightenment of self is technically second-hand. Much like the analogy of a horse and cart, whereby physical fitness is pushing the horse, whereas enlightenment is spending the day in the cart, lol.


My cart isn't there, just a weak horse.

schizoid
2nd March 2020, 03:01 AM
:lol2:of course it does! You're very funny. They have a very deep (& disciplined) spiritual practice it seems. That's why I said it's not for me. I don't like following routines & structures & not disciplined.just watch some of their videos on their talks (not yoga or physical exercises). You'll get the feeling of what they are about. Especially Swami Kriyananda 🙏🏽

Before I dedicate myself to something like this I'm going to give Robert Bruce's material a try, if his material doesn't produce results then I will consider a system like theirs.

olyris
2nd March 2020, 10:28 PM
My cart isn't there, just a weak horse.
Weak horse needs anger.
No cart means no company - seek the truth.

Rama
3rd March 2020, 07:29 PM
Before I dedicate myself to something like this I'm going to give Robert Bruce's material a try, if his material doesn't produce results then I will consider a system like theirs.

Do what feels right for you, resonates with you. Robert Bruce is something different to a yogic or spiritual path. But it seems to me that's what your heart wants, follow your heart. It normally works out best. Myself, I can't dedicate myself to anything, that's a big problem. The wise ones say dig in one place, & dig deep, then you'll hit water! It's no point digging lots of little holes everywhere ;}