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Aunt Clair
31st May 2007, 12:56 PM
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Zak
10th June 2007, 02:28 PM
Great breakdown of a variety of practices. I will be expanding my practice shortly and including some of your great suggestions.

I have taken ome workshops recently with a woman named Lori Wilson. She is a world reknowned teacher (and lives in my town!) of channelling, regression and medical intuition. http://inneraccess101.com/

What you call sitting, she calls channelling. I have been studying this quite a bit recently (getting messages from a spirit and relaying it either to paper or anoter person, not letting the spirit speak through you in a trance) and there are definetly differences between what you have described and what she describes.

While I see energy raising as very beneficial to energetic development and should be done. I don't see it as necessary for spirit contct, even clear spirit contact. In fact in Lori's classes most people don't do anything outside of channelling and maybe one or two of them do reiki. There were lot's of profound result as well between people with things such as big emotional breakthroughs when someone touched on a piece of deep information, often regarding a loved one passed on.

But I agree it should be done as it can enhance the perception so why not do it as part of a practice every time you're about to do a session!

My personal experience with protection is I don't need it in my own home, I barely ever need it in everyday life either. Recently the only time I hve used it is on a trip which involved flying on a plane for 12 hours!

If a negative energy ever shows itself I show it the same compassion and open heartedness I shw anyone else. 99% of the time the energy leaves without disruption as there is nothing for it to attach to as I have no fear of it! most spirits don't require protection either as the ones with the messages for us that are important are from this "high" plane and don't have fear either.

In the rare case that there is an energy that is being disruptive I ask the archangels of the cardinal points to remove it and take it to a place in existence that will serve it's most ballanced good for itself and the entire cosmos, and it always works.

One example of dealing with extremely negative energies is a story Lori told me about when she was teaching a class in Brazil. She was working hrough a translator with a class of around 50 people. A little less than half the class were possessed and sat at the back of th class room, some moaning every so often. Because of the belief system in Brazil it has become almost fashionable to be possessed!

Part way through the class Lori wanted to demonstrate that all negaive energies are just an aspect of somones mind (not discounting that these energies can take on a form and are then real entities). She brought a man up to the front while explaining how belief systems of entire nations are like louds foating above a country. A religious belief system cloud which holds the ideas of negtive energies being the source of most problems in life beomes super charged with so many people believing it. This can get in the way of truth.

After that she basically tuned into the "possessed" man and traced the negative energy to it's source. She got his brother and then described a scene in the mans life where his brother had been abusive towards him. This had become a way of life and tht's all that their relationship held. The man was then no longer possessed as he saw the truth.

She did this with every single person in the room with no need for a dramatic exorcism. She simply stood in a place of absolutel no fear, but held a vibration of love.


Hehe I love all the emoticons!

Aunt Clair
14th June 2007, 02:22 PM
Hi ,thanks for telling us at AD about her .

Are adverts allowed on AD though ?

She is not famous in USA or Australia btw . I never heard of her . Perhaps she is well known in Canada .But I do not believe in charging fees to learn how to speak to spirit because spirit teaches that for free . What spirit teachers provide in love should not be sold to another for profit .

Here in Australia my peers and I learn together as peers with no fee and I would like to challenge you to top our free methods .

These are quotes from your teacher's site you posted ;
Intuition & Channeling Higher Wisdomâ„¢
(Module 3) 3 full days $450.50
Channelling as a Profession
3 full days $450.50

So after you are through paying her and her peers 900 $ suppose you come online and let me see your energy body development and you can read and project and show me how much you learned ? If you like I will offer you free before and after readings too . I would love to be impressed .

What you call sitting, she calls channelling.
Perhaps you did not understand her lessons . Because actually , none of these methods are about channeling .Sitting in meditation is just that, to place oneself in a sitting position in a chair . The term "sitter" oto is the one being read by the medium .
viewtopic.php?t=1639 (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=1639)

Channeling means to listen to a teaching spirit and then give off their message . This can be done in a wide variety of ways including but not limited to ;

* automatic writing
* invocation
* trance mediumship
* evocation
* projection to the realms


I do see and hear avatars , spirit teachers , archangels , guides, spirits ,etc. But this framework given here is not meant for that purpose . This scaffolding is about beginning pathworking for development of the energy body , for healing , projection , and development of clairient abilities .

Here are some links specific to mediumship ;
Opening the third eye to clairvoyant Mediumship
viewtopic.php?t=1640 (http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=1640)
Meditation Techniques to Develop Spiritual Abilities
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Methods for reading sitters as a Clairvoyant Medium
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I have been studying this quite a bit recently (getting messages from a spirit and relaying it either to paper or anoter person, not letting the spirit speak through you in a trance) and there are definitely differences between what you have described and what she describes.
That's because they are not the same thing. Again , you are looking at a series of links to begin pathworking to develop emergent skills in a wide variety of manners and this is not a channeling method .

But I am happy to allow you to remote view me for free or one of my peers and you can show me how much you learned . I have been hearing and seeing spirit since 2 years old and I am 51 .

I have worked with a wide variety of teachers some charged 2 or 5 $ a week but most taught for free .

If you want a helpful workshop take energy awareness and raising energy with Robert Bruce . He will charge a lot less .His methods are not learnt for free from spirit teachers . He learned his methods through personal research and he charges a reasonable fee for training in something that is tangible and a prerequisite foundation for other metaphysical pathworking . His methods are practical and will advance you metaphysically .

And you can get tutorials here on the site for free .

And once you learn how to bring energy into the body effectively developing it , then you can develop all the other metaphysical skills with experience .

Paying someone money to teach you to hear spirits in 3 days is not the same thing . That experience cannot be taught or paid for . Only methods can be taught not experiences . And it takes a lot of experience to learn the symbolism to interpret a clairvoyant message . But if you can read me , I would love to be proved wrong in that respect .

The title of this thread says
One suggested series of steps to begin Metaphysical Pathworking
Pathworking is beginning your own individual path . Examples of paths include , wicca , mysticism , shamynism , healing , projection , mediumship , hermetic magick , alchemy ,manifestation magick , ceremonial magick etc .,

And Pathworking means to begin braiding into the first path you have chosen diverse skills you develop with experience , books you read , realms you project to , mentors you meet , peers you share with , dreams you recall , spirit teachers you learn from , newly learned paths etc .


While I see energy raising as very beneficial to energetic development and should be done. I don't see it as necessary for spirit contct, even clear spirit contact. In fact in Lori's classes most people don't do anything outside of channelling and maybe one or two of them do reiki. There were lot's of profound result as well between people with things such as big emotional breakthroughs when someone touched on a piece of deep information, often regarding a loved one passed on.
I disagree . Energy is fundamental to all metaphysical skills .It is necessary for all pathworking .

Raising energy ;
heals the body ,
affords a higher sustainable vibration ,
affords a higher degree of natural protection ,
amplifies reception of spirit messages ,
amplifies abilty to sense within projection
eases separation ,
develops higher level skills beyond the cursory emergent level
etc .

But I agree it should be done as it can enhance the perception so why not do it as part of a practice every time you're about to do a session!
I do . We do in open and closed circle and in readings , healings , personal meditations etc .

My personal experience with protection is I don't need it in my own home, I barely ever need it in everyday life either. Recently the only time I hve used it is on a trip which involved flying on a plane for 12 hours!If a negative energy ever shows itself I show it the same compassion and open heartedness I shw anyone else. 99% of the time the energy leaves without disruption as there is nothing for it to attach to as I have no fear of it! most spirits don't require protection either as the ones with the messages for us that are important are from this "high" plane and don't have fear either.
You are of course entitled to your opinion . But I completely disagree . This is Robert Bruce's site . He wrote Astral Dynamics and Practical Psychic Self Defense , MAP etc . Robert has spent decades helping people who made the mistake of not using any protection . I work as an exorcist . I have seen demons . Sending them love does not keep them from harming , attaching , draining , and harming the mental and physical well being of their victims . But this is nothing to do with this topic . If you want to argue that protection is unnecessary you could perhaps find some people in serious neg abuse forum who would be willing to tell you otherwise more expertly.

In the rare case that there is an energy that is being disruptive I ask the archangels of the cardinal points to remove it and take it to a place in existence that will serve it's most ballanced good for itself and the entire cosmos, and it always works.
I do not believe this to be true.

One example of dealing with extremely negative energies is a story Lori told me about when she was teaching a class in Brazil. She was working hrough a translator with a class of around 50 people. A little less than half the class were possessed and sat at the back of th class room, some moaning every so often. Because of the belief system in Brazil it has become almost fashionable to be possessed!Part way through the class Lori wanted to demonstrate that all negaive energies are just an aspect of somones mind (not discounting that these energies can take on a form and are then real entities). She brought a man up to the front while explaining how belief systems of entire nations are like louds foating above a country. A religious belief system cloud which holds the ideas of negtive energies being the source of most problems in life beomes super charged with so many people believing it. This can get in the way of truth.

After that she basically tuned into the "possessed" man and traced the negative energy to it's source. She got his brother and then described a scene in the mans life where his brother had been abusive towards him. Poverty breeds negative attachments not religion or cultural belief systems . There is not a cloud over the country . Brazil is a poor country . 1/4 live below the poverty line . Many more are not much better off . Poverty breeds all forms of abuse .Abuse breeds attachment and possession . Rich people get abused and attached too but not in the same proportions .

Many who become negatively attached and or possessed have been abused sexually . Telling them who did it does not impress me . That is just a psychic linking . And it is useless as they already know who did it to them . Removing the attachment is not done by saying" your brother did this to you" . The demon that causes the pedophile to be the perpetrator then affects the victim and both are attached .

This had become a way of life and tht's all that their relationship held. The man was then no longer possessed as he saw the truth.She did this with every single person in the room with no need for a dramatic exorcism. She simply stood in a place of absolutel no fear, but held a vibration of love.
How much did she charge the impoverished people of Brazil for her lessons?

I am confident that her "standing in love" did not exorcise any spirit .

It is difficult for me to find you as a credible source . I have had many magician mentors who have real metaphysical experience .

Just because a woman charges you a fee that does not make her an expert or you ,as her student, an expert either .

Robert has removed negs globally for free and I have read testimonials of his victims and I have met some of his patients . I work with a group who does the same .

I do not find any reason to debate further with you about the need for protection or the need for exorcism . This is off topic on this thread .
If you want to debate how great your teacher is and if moderators allow it , kindly split it off my thread and make one of your own .

To argue methodology , you should first have credible experience of your own .


My mentors in protection against negs are Robert Bruce who is 52 and Bill Van de Berg who is 73 years old . These men work for free and have helped countless victims for decades .

CFTraveler
14th June 2007, 03:34 PM
AC wrote:
Are adverts allowed on AD though ?
Not as such, but a member with more than 20 posts can link to related subjects with the understanding that it's not for sales purposes, which seems to be the case here.

Zak
15th June 2007, 12:05 AM
I must apologize as I do see how much I have diverted this thread from the original topic. I posted this quite shortly after having taken the workshop so I was in that "this information is golden and must be shared with everyone!!!" mode... I hoe you can understand that's where I was coming from :p

Needless to say Ill just add these few things about her and then I'll leave it at that, perhaps we can discuss it further through private messages.

She has 20 or so trainers under her who teach worldwide. I don't think she has ever been looking for fame with her work, just to spread what she perceives as truth to spiritual teachings. the main thing she teaches is medical Intuition which she studied under Dr. Norm Sheally and Carolyn Myss, two very credible people in the field. She herself was intuitive and saw spirits from a young age and then after University she began a channelling practice and has been doing that successfully for 24 years.

I am also a student of Robert Bruce and love his teachings and energy work methods. I also practice them. I don't know what you mean about paying her $900 as the course was only $450. Plus she has a half price student price which I was able to pay. (I took both the course you listed earlier this year as well as the Channelling as a Profession just two weekends ago)

I see the difference now between channelling and sitting. I attribute my quick and non specific response to the strange head space I was in after a 3 day workshop that had a lot of processing to do afterwards.

You say you disagree with people charging for money for work that involves connecting with beings of wisdom and channelling information for people. Would you also disagree with people who run a healing practice and make money doing that? (I must say many people who do this barely scrape by unless they have some support from a spouse for example, Lori herself doesn't even own a car)

In my humble opinion I see this work that we all do wether it be healing or channelling or mediumship to be of benefit to other people. It is part of the transformation we are all helping to create in this world which is presently going through change for the better.

If you were to invest a large portion of your time for a certain number of years to developing these abilities wether they be healing, channelling or clairvoyance is it such a crime to ask people for money to help support yourself so you have more time to develop these abilities and then further you abilitie to help other people help themselves, and help others from then on etc etc?

The teachings from spirit is free yes and we should all start at a place of practice where we do readings for free to gain exprience. But like a mechanic who has gone through school or prenticeship to get this free knowledge he must get people to pay him for his work or else he has to work under someone else as his main job and then fix cars on evenings and weekends??? I hope you understand what I am getting at.

If you are in a situation wether it is you are retired or have the support of a spouse or some other means where you have ample time to pursue your interests without having to worry about paying the bills, I could see it as wonderful to be able to help people in the way that you describe.

Regarding the psychic self defense we can save that debate for another time, I am still eploring it myself and as you pointed out I definetly do not have the same experience as Robert or Bill.

Thanks Aunt Clair!

Aunt Clair
15th June 2007, 06:31 AM
Thank you Zak .

... I don't know what you mean about paying her $900 as the course was only $450.
for the 2 units as listed above it is 6 days for 900$

You say you disagree with people charging for money for work that involves connecting with beings of wisdom and channeling information for people. Most certainly I do . If the aspirant will sit in meditation ,the teachers will appear for free in light & love . These teachers ask nothing except for us to also do the same to share in love & light, for free .
"In asmuch as it has been given freely to you "..

Would you also disagree with people who run a healing practice and make money doing that?
Yes I do . You asked me in PM about Robert . He refuses money for healing or for providing advice about protection against negs .He charges for his books and workshops although his basic tutorials and treatises are provided for free .

It takes little time to heal , one can work at another job to support oneself.I do .I worked as a schoolteacher , I have worked as a single parent and still managed to heal , assist in exorcisms , and teach meditation for free . I believe in volunteer service . And I feel if one charges to teach spirit communication that they hit a plateau becoming less able and not moving forward to continue development .

Humans can give sexual satisfaction as lovers for free or they may charge as prostitutes . Humans can hug , smile and encourage for free or charge as escorts .

Healers use universal energy and help from spirit teachers and angels .Charging for healing this way is considered immoral by many , I agree.
Humans can train as doctors and charge , that is different .The doctor uses tools and medicines . The doctor is trained by humans and as such can charge as a human .


(I must say many people who do this barely scrape by unless they have some support from a spouse for example,
I studied at university for 7 years . I accepted pay to teach at school . I refuse pay to aid a grieving parent , to send healing to an ill person , or to read a sitter or to remove a neg .

Lori herself doesn't even own a car)
Not owning a car does not mean she lives modestly though , the rich may choose to hire drivers and limosines .But I do not know her net worth , perhaps she lives modestly or on meager means . But I still feel that charging for teaching what must be learned by experience is wrong . It is like charging for air or to teach how to breathe , it seems so very wrong in my heart. But , it is not my business, it is your money and her business and yours .


In my humble opinion I see this work that we all do wether it be healing or channelling or mediumship to be of benefit to other people. It is part of the transformation we are all helping to create in this world which is presently going through change for the better.
I agree .

If you were to invest a large portion of your time for a certain number of years to developing these abilities wether they be healing, channelling or clairvoyance is it such a crime to ask people for money to help support yourself so you have more time to develop these abilities and then further you abilitie to help other people help themselves, and help others from then on etc etc?You are asking the wrong person . I have developed and learned . I have studied most earnestly these last 11 years devoting time to teach 3 to 5 times a week and to kearn daily .I am expert in a number of metaphysical areas . I continue to learn , to share and to teach, for free .


The teachings from spirit is free yes and we should all start at a place of practice where we do readings for free to gain exprience. But like a mechanic who has gone through school or prenticeship to get this free knowledge he must get people to pay him for his work or else he has to work under someone else as his main job and then fix cars on evenings and weekends??? I hope you understand what I am getting at.
Yes I do .

Robert heals for free and advises for free . He works as a author .
I heal , exorcise , read & teach for free . I worked as a schoolteacher .
Bill heals , exorcises and teaches fir free . He works as a labourer.
Maggie heals for free . She cleans office buildings.
Andrew exorcises and teaches for free , He works as a student .
Jodie heals & teaches for free . She studies at Tafe and works as an Artist.
Tom heals & teaches for free . He worked as a merchant mariner.
Jim Booth heals for free. He retired from military & works as an author.
Jim & Jacky Lindsay heal & teach 9 classes weekly for free & are retired .
etc.


If you are in a situation wether it is you are retired or have the support of a spouse or some other means where you have ample time to pursue your interests without having to worry about paying the bills, I could see it as wonderful to be able to help people in the way that you describe.
I have worked since I was 14 years old . I was retired medically in 2005 from Muliple Sclerosis and severe spinal degeneration . It makes no difference . As a single parent in poverty, I still volunteered . As a married partner , I volunteered .

I began to volunteer in the community at 9 years old when I taught ESOl kids to read and taught polio crippled kids to swim with me . I believe as do my peers that it is by service , we grow . If one makes excuses they are just that, excuses. I have never not volunteered since learning the joy of service .

I volunteered as ;
Swim Instructor
Special Ed Tutor
Free Clinic Worker
Nursing Home entertainer
Wheels for homebound Driver
Gallery Attendent
Science Center docent
CF Swimmer
MS Walker
Spec Ed Olympics Hugger
Homeless Shelter Meals & Movies
Suicide line counselor
Peer Crisis officer
Firefighter
CPR instructor
Emergency Medical tech
Retreat Facilitator
CCD Teacher
Reiki Healer
Meditation Teacher
Spiritual Teacher
Assistant Exorcist
and many more . The point is there are many opportunities to serve and many needs to fill . Through service we grow . By being generous we prosper .It does not cost us to volunteer the rewards are greater than our sacrifice of time and energy .

But it is the perogative of the spiritual psychic , healer , teacher or medium to charge . And the perogative of the aspirant to pay .


Regarding the psychic self defense we can save that debate for another time, I am still eploring it myself and as you pointed out I definetly do not have the same experience as Robert or Bill.

Thanks Zak for your polite discussion.

Aunt Clair
7th June 2012, 07:01 AM
Some Updated links ;
1)Create a Sacred Space
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1426.0.html
2)Adopt a conducive Asana;
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?14001-Adopting-a-conducive-ASANA&p=111726#post111726
3)Develop Energy Awareness ~
NEW Simplified Method outlined in Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways/using-new-full-tutorial.html
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/roberts-books.html
4) Open in Protection
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,31.0.html

5) Apply Prophylactic Defense i.e.
Practical Psychic Self Defense by Robert Bruce
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/roberts-books.html

6) Deep Cleanse Breathe to Open the Human Energy Body
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1329.0.htm
Yogic Method of Opening the Energy Body with Breathing
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,84.0.html
7) Remove Blockages
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1435.0.html
8) Raise the Dragons of Kundalini
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,333.0.html
NEW Full Body Circuit by Robert Bruce in Astral Dynamics
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/roberts-books.html
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways/using-new-full-tutorial.html
Raise Fire to heat Air
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1422.msg4010.html
Open gateways of stones & untie knots of chakras ie Reiki Tummo
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1868.0.html
9) Heal with psi
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,2637.0.html
Manifest blankets and pillars of energy to heal
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,474.0.html
Learn to Raise Energy when ill and confined to bed to heal
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1328.0.html
10) Meditate
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,313.0.html

11) Learn to attain Trance, to Channel and Divination
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,2563.0.html

12) Develop Clairvoyance
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1359.0.html

13)Astral Project; OBE thru the Earth Stone
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,637.0.html

14)Mystic Project through the Moon Stone
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,344.0.html
Begin Initiatic Magick and Mystic Projection
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,1873.0.html
Create your Core Image Libary of Places to Go
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,367.0.html

15) Project into and out of the Stones on the Tree of Life
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,344.0.html

16) Continue to Develop Awareness and Manifest new Centres
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,281.0.html

17) Record. Analyse your Dreams & Visions
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,211.0.html

18) Monitor your Progression
Body
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,117.0.html
Hands
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,188.0.html
Feet
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,187.0.html
19) Alchemy ~ Ascend through love and service
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,474.0.html
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,2552.0.html

IronGega
19th June 2012, 05:28 AM
I share AC's believe in no fee. I give out information on a Law of Attraction forum that many people charge for, and I also offer free healing and free eaching at another site on psionics.

Rob has a desire to build create a school of psychic and magic, and that will require money so it is understandable why someone would teach at a cost