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16th January 2006, 03:31 AM

16th January 2006, 06:32 AM
So what do u do, just lay on one side and dont move while your uncomfortable?

16th January 2006, 06:34 AM
Congratulations! Well done!

16th January 2006, 06:36 AM
brettb, I found the artical. Read the quote below and visit the two links. Then give it a go.

One other thing that helps me a lot to fall asleep quickly is to keep my body and especially my eyes extremely still. I'll start daydreaming then and make sure not to let my body move no matter how much it wants me to. The goal is to watch your body fall asleep and feel it go paralyzed. Right before that happens, your body will probably send a "please roll over" message.

It can be really hard to ignore that message but if you can then your body will shutdown while you're still awake. Here are some posts on that:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... all-asleep (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=watch-fall-asleep)
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... =paralysis (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=paralysis)

16th January 2006, 06:46 AM
Congratulations! Well done!

Thnx M8.

17th January 2006, 06:27 AM
I wanted to thank whoever posted this tip, as well... I remember reading it.

ETA: Thanks, Matt!

This makes sense... it's like your brain is trying to get in the last "Hey, move or your body is going to fall asleep" message.

I've been working on starting trance meditation... the other day I got pretty close, I was comfortable, and keeping a clear mind, climbing down stair after stair... LOL at one point I suddenly saw a cartoon image of myself as a ninja chasing down and attacking a small, evil ninja...

Anyways, my hands were to the point where I couldn't feel them anymore, and my legs were on their way, everything was going great and suddenly I just got this huge discomfort message. The moment I heeded it, shifting my legs, thinking I'd just keep going down... it was like I was "coming awake" and popping right back up to the surface like a floating cork, and no matter what I did I couldn't shake that "Yeah I'm awake" feeling to try again. I think if I had made a strong conscious effort to ignore that discomfort signal, I would have been there.

I just couldn't get why I had popped up so quickly, and come awake so fast. Now, being reminded of that thread.. it makes sense.

17th January 2006, 07:36 AM
It was Matt. That's who you're thanking.

18th January 2006, 12:15 AM
Yeah M8... Thanks Matt for that great Tip. I've tried to reproduce it but I only get mild vibes. No worries though... Baby steps.

I think the altered state I achieved had something to do with my wife waking me from my trance state. Then going right back into trance state once she left the room, which may have caused the sleep paralysis wave to take me so suddenly. Note to self: Have my wife bother me with idle chatter more often. :D

Twice now I felt myself get close to the paralysis state, but I nodded off. Also, it seems to work better on my side. I normally sleep on my side, so I guess my body just thinks its time to sleep. I must try again when I'm well rested.

I'll post again if it happens soon. :wink:

21st January 2006, 07:37 PM
I just found this thread, the way you describe the paralysis waves is very accurate. I've never gone through the tunnel before! Only once or twice I've been in a state where I was lookingup through a tunnel but when I tried to interact with it I woke up.

Here's a post that quotes what Stuart Wilde says works for him in getting through the tunnel:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... 24&p=0#433 (http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=424&p=0#433)

It sounds like you were able to get into it with no problem at all but Wilde's method may next time you're in a tunnel