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  1. John Sorensen's Avatar
    Sounds like you are using the generic Relax, as in chill out etc. Is this what you are saying? Why not do a follow up post on Relaxation Response and Muscle Control?

    There are various techniques that are simple to learn, that induce the specific relaxation response (releasing muscle tension and mental tension) in the body.

    Doesn't take long, I've used that sort of stuff for years. Well I liked your post, please write more!
  2. IA56's Avatar
    I can tell that my "suffering" is a memory trigger, and also how I have collected and bound energy, and also to find back to the happening so I have bean able to study so to speak, and it was also a catalyst as you BW say for wanting to understand and learn I am only greatful because it is a storage to knowledge when digest the suffering :-)
    Updated 21st January 2013 at 03:54 PM by IA56
  3. ButterflyWoman's Avatar
    Suffering can be a catalyst to being open to learning. In other words, some of us are so stubborn and ego-bound that suffering is the only thing that cracks our smug hold on that which we think of as reality (yes, voice of experience here ).

    I would say that suffering can generate opportunities for learning, sure. But suffering is not noble, it doesn't build character, none of that. Suffering is suffering, full stop. It's just that, sometimes, when we've suffered enough, we may be open to something OTHER than suffering, and that's when the learning and change starts happening.

    It's like that old joke about the man who banged his head on the wall over and over. When someone asked him why he was doing that, he said, "Because it feels so good when I stop". I think a lot of us unwittingly set ourselves up, metaphorically and metaphysically, for just such a self-beating (again, voice of experience).
  4. MaryAnn's Avatar
    I think perhaps suffering is the road to acceptance, and acceptance means letting go of struggle. Not struggling naturally will leave one in a happier state. I have friends who say that when there is resistance in their path, they have found that that is an indication that they are on the right path; for me it seems the opposite, that when resistance is present I'm on the wrong path. I'm not saying there should be a lack of effort; what I'm saying is that if bad things repeatedly happen when I'm trying to go a certain direction, it has benefited me to see what other directions are being ignored.
    As for the heart connection you mention....yes, isn't it wonderful? I'm recently starting to focus much more on making those kinds of connections for myself and seem to be making some progress. I'm doing a lot more listening and observing and a whole lot less talking and I'm remembering the phrase that how someone treats you says everything about them and nothing about you.
  5. Korpo's Avatar
  6. IA56's Avatar
    I also agree and it need´s to take away the belief of nobelness of suffering, it is not. But as I feel it to say some of nessessary, that it has taken me too long time to dare to make changes because I also did belief about the to some extent to be selfish if I did not agree to suffer, this I know my mother did implant in me...and to respect her I did go along to suffer because it did give her some kind of calmness. I remember her calling me heartless when I did be total calm and I also did understand that to go into a neurotic fear as my mother did stay calm and steady was the answere and I did try to show her, but instead of understanding me right she did accuse me being heartless, and when I did go along with her neurotic behavings she did calm down and I took over her chaos and she did understand to be the grown up...but off course she did never understand and as time did pass she was like happy to say...I am the crazy on.....and I really did be okay with that, because I did know something she never did figure out :-) and if I told her she would never believe me I have tried so I know :-)
  7. CFTraveler's Avatar
    I agree with you. I think the basis of the idea that we need suffering comes from the understanding that time we spent suffering wasn't really wasted- that we needed it to grow. I agree with this only in the sense that there is no wasted time, that any interaction brings learning- but I think that honoring this idea tends to make people think that suffering is somehow noble and therefore necessary.
    .02 and MHO.
  8. Korpo's Avatar
    Telepolis (German),
  9. SoulSail's Avatar
    Mind sharing which online rags you read? I'm always on the lookout.

    (and great post, btw...if time allowed I'd follow up in depth, sorry!)
  10. DarkChylde's Avatar
    Ok by now i've heard the name Kurt Leland plenty times and he has definitely become someone i have to read because both you and C speak of him in way that i'd want to tune into him ; no idea who he is though atm but picking up a new author is always daunting for me - this is going to break the hump for me i guess.

    It appears that some on the astral plane seem to be bound by rules that others are not. Not being bound by the rules seems to mean that they are still real and binding for others. And the knowledge that the "rules" are an illusion can not be easily transmitted.
    I'm fiercely independant and the fact that someone else is making "rules" for me doesn't still too well with me ; hence the constant strive achieve more in spirituality.

    Best entry so far.
  11. IA56's Avatar
    Yes, I did study one year the Noble Eightfold path and did get the experience of...not falling backwards...I am sorry not to know the English Swedish it is...Icke tillbaka fallande...It was so fantastic exprerience to know that all work well done will nobody take away from you...that when you come to certain point of knowing you can´t fall beneath all efforts are taking you forward.....
    Thank you Korpo for re-minding me again....
  12. CFTraveler's Avatar
    aka "Bacon feeling all over"
  13. Korpo's Avatar
  14. LPCF's Avatar
    This is a practical and succinct outline of the N.E.P. It brings it all together so well. Great work, Korpo!
  15. Korpo's Avatar
    As often, relays some interesting information in the guise of making fun. I enjoyed it.
  16. CFTraveler's Avatar
    Those are some interesting insights, Oliver. You may like the political explanation to trends in horror in the US, here:
    but even though it's Country-specific, I think the trends between conservatism vs liberalism as expressed in this genre applies.
    Enjoy the article, if you haven't read it yet.
  17. poème's Avatar
    I benefitted from reading yours many times :)
  18. Korpo's Avatar

    These are indeed very wise words and I benefitted from reading them.
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  20. thedevil's Avatar
    I think its obvious that neither one of us is convinced by the other so I will leave it at that
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