Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
Why should it be taken away from you?
Did you have any change of attitudes since you've joined this psychic class? Did they say other things to discourage certain types of psychic development?
What do you want to experience through OBE?
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
Clarvoyance and OBE's share one crucial element in common. They BOTH require raising your vibrations to move or act in the spirit world. Its possible that in working on the clarvoyance element that you are using a great deal of energy and are not left with enough supply to get OB. Try dedicating a week to OBE and a week to connecting to spirit off an on that may help. Also, you are not a fraud by NOT GETTING ANYTHING. Just stay with it. If you WANT it. it will happen.
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
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rf396
Clarvoyance and OBE's share one crucial element in common. They BOTH require raising your vibrations to move or act in the spirit world. Its possible that in working on the clarvoyance element that you are using a great deal of energy and are not left with enough supply to get OB. Try dedicating a week to OBE and a week to connecting to spirit off an on that may help. Also, you are not a fraud by NOT GETTING ANYTHING. Just stay with it. If you WANT it. it will happen.
Hi. rf396 ,thanks for that. I think your probably right about the energy depletion. Even through the day I,m feeling really tired, and I,m not sleeping well at all.
Get your point about NOT GETTING ANYTHING. I think what I should have said was that I feel that by telling the group about some of my OBE experiences( and they would all love to experience the same), and what I pick up at the moment of waking, I then feel I'm making up any visualisations when we go round class.(a bit like being a fraud)
Korpo, thanks, They encourage closing down at night. But that is my most productive time,and as for what do I hope to achieve from OBEs? Captain Kirk and the Star Ship Enterprise comes to mind. But seriously discovering what is out there can bring excitment into a fairly mundane, routine life.
Did get a bit of a shock this am. Just looking in to the blackness of the eye, just starting to drift away when I,m sure a 1" black figure shaped like a man appeared in the top right hand corner of my vision. It scared me and I felt myself jump and fully woke up.It was as if he just jumped into the scene, but then I may have imagined it and this isn't the proper section for this so I'll finish. Thanks
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
Maybe your tiredness is related to some changes required in your energetic makeup. Such adaptations tend to take a while, and might limit your experiences also for a while. Experiences come and go, for this reason and others. Sometimes it's just the preparation for the next leap in your development.
The group's belief might not be too conducive either. You can protect yourself without shutting down, I'd say. Your attitude of exploration should help things along.
Don't mind the minor scares. Most of the time there's no reason to suspect anything coming from that.
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
rest assured, nothing has been taken away from you.
you said it yourself - you can't relax enough and you feel a rush about your achievements. even your style of writing suggests, that you are always in a hurry, always being on edge about something. my suggestion is that you find a way to calm yourself down before advancing with any kind of practice, be it OBEs or clairvoyance. find some kind of breathing meditation that helps with your anxiousness, and the OBEs will return.
I have to agree, that spirit worlds are indeed full of stuff that isn't nice. the trick is not to be afraid, but simply to be careful. you wouldn't dive in the river head-on if you didn't know how deep it is, the same holds true for almost every practice. one step at a time and you'll be fine
good luck!
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
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her crow
rest assured, nothing has been taken away from you.
you said it yourself - you can't relax enough and you feel a rush about your achievements. even your style of writing suggests, that you are always in a hurry, always being on edge about something. my suggestion is that you find a way to calm yourself down before advancing with any kind of practice, be it OBEs or clairvoyance. find some kind of breathing meditation that helps with your anxiousness, and the OBEs will return.
I have to agree, that spirit worlds are indeed full of stuff that isn't nice. the trick is not to be afraid, but simply to be careful. you wouldn't dive in the river head-on if you didn't know how deep it is, the same holds true for almost every practice. one step at a time and you'll be fine
good luck!
T
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
thank you , her crow, I feel you can read me like a book.I am always in a hurry but need so much more than just this physical existence can give.
I have a lovely family with a loving husband but after experiencing OBEs and other dimensions this topic becomes an addiction.
I have experienced the bad elements but it's as if someone just clicks their finger and I wake up.
I know I need PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Clairvoyance versus OBE
Captain Kirk and the Star Ship Enterprise comes to mind
Wow this is the only time I have heard it descibed this way other THAN MYSELF!!! MY biggest desire is simply to return home FULLY for a variety of reasons and when asked WHY I respond IN this fashion. I liken being HERE, to being James T Kirk awaiting a refit. The Enterprise sits in dry dock awaiting its next adventure and yet its Captain is STUCK here on Earth for one mundane reason or another. A true bummer. LOL
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I have a lovely family with a loving husband but after experiencing OBEs and other dimensions this topic becomes an addiction.
you must always try and remeber to stay with at least one foot on the ground, because your life happens here and now. every lesson you learn here, in the physical reality, is just as priceless as the ones you can learn 'out there'. stay grounded, calm and focused.
best of luck to you!