AMERICA'S PSYCHIC CHALLENGE
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Has anyone seen that new show on Lifetime "America's Psychic Challenge"? I caught it the other day (think it was friday). I enjoyed what I saw of it. Its kind of like a reality show styled contest, only its psychics who complete these challenges to test their abilities, successful completion of which earns points. So far, unlike alot of shows based on that same format, I didn't see alot of bickering and backbiting and trying to sabotage the competition like you see on alot of "reality" shows. Everyone got along and it was all in a spirit of friendly competition.
Two things struck me as I watched the program. One, is I was really impressed by the abilities of the psychics. The other thing that made an impression on me was something I had contemplated before, and that is, that the scientific method as we know it will probably never "prove" the existence of psychic phenomenon. Not because it doesn;t exist, but because the traditional scientific methods of trying to measure them are to me, alot like trying to count round pegs by pouring them over a floor with square holes, and counting how many end up falling through to the other side. Example:
In one of the challenges, you have 5 guys, dressed in prison garb, locked behind gars in 5 prison cells. THe challenge is for the psychic to correctly identify which one actual criminal record. One of the psychics ID'd the man with a real criminal record just fine. But here is the interesting part, the next psychic failed to identify him (and thus recieved 0 points for that round) but amazingly, on her way to get there, without even knowing what the challlenge would be, produced some automatic writing, which included some uncanny details -about- the one with the real record. For instance, a number that was the number of years he had spent in jail, or details about him having a brother who had had a drug problem. An amazing feat, to me, but she did not successfully pick the right prisoner that those details went with. I think that this illustrates how a person could clearly demonstrate ability but at the same time "fail" a scientifc experiment designed to measure it. Psi just doesnt seem to "work that way".
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Originally Posted by randall
the scientific method as we know it will probably never "prove" the existence of psychic phenomenon. Not because it doesn;t exist, but because the traditional scientific methods of trying to measure them are to me, alot like trying to count round pegs by pouring them over a floor with square holes, and counting how many end up falling through to the other side.
I agree with that completely.
Also.... truth be told, the majority of scientists really don't want to know. Seriously. There's a lot of serious, genuine research into psychic phenomena out there, much of it peer reviewed, and still the majority of scientists don't know about it and don't care and wouldn't read it even if they did know about it. You hear a lot of "There's no scientific data to support that," but according to researchers in the field, there actually is... It's just that the majority of scientists don't want to know.
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Ya why can't science and the supernatural just get along. I mean people treat it like only one can
exist at a time. The supernatural phenomenon once accepted by science will lead to a whole new
level. However for the time being, information all over the world is filled with a lot of crap so its
really hard to tell what is authentic and what’s not. The only way to know for sure is to be out there
and experience it yourself which is why AP is so spectacular.
Personally as a real believer in the science i think the first reaction of a scientist to a supernatural
phenomenon would be pure shock, then he/she'd go into denial trying to figure out the trick to it then
1. Start to think it's dream, or it's a one time coincidence
2. Make up a theory with no foundation for which the same reason they critisise the supernatural
3. Take the closest exit to being able dismissing the whole event as fake
Arrogance/Pride will prevent them from accepting the phenomenon as it is the same as saying they've
been wrong so they won't stop until they've proved to themselves that it is false.
Which is why I find books from Robert Bruce so interesting, his approach to this supernatural
phenomenon is almost scientific. Much of his theories explain why apparently tests on AP subjects failed.
-Hibby
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Its actually natural and not supernatural, so much is going on that just goes unoticed I somtimes feel silly. All the time. 100% of the time. It never ends. Like that song "Its the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends." :)
It sucks that this sort of thing isn't taught mainstream, cuz some of the people who really study and get good cause trouble at times.
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Originally Posted by star
It sucks that this sort of thing isn't taught mainstream, cuz some of the people who really study and get good cause trouble at times.
I'd say that's why it's not taught mainstream- imagine all the people that would be out there causing trouble for the rest of us!
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lol yer, it'd be pretty hard to apply rules to something supernatural, you'd have no way of knowing if
someone was following you in the real time unless you have clairvoyance. Maybe there are secret studies
on the supernatural somewhere out there.
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Actaully it used to be listed in that online Goverment library where everything that we do is supposd to be listed. I wonder what happened to it. (Talking about USA)
Ne-way when the most troublesome of people get too brash I feel that retribution gets em.
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Would that be the infamous MK-Ultra?