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Being in accord to time is ecstasy itself.
The only "state" (contrasted with "process") I would surmise, is the state of mind that knows this.
The secret? Being with one's own processes until the state of mind emerges to AWAKEN... A natural function: self -> consciousness by means of the derived ego.
The term "process" suggests that there is no time: e.g. there is no certain state in time. All changes (just like the ancient taoist philosophy and I-Ching suggests). This means that there is a deliberate, constant, firm decision needed to maitnatin certain "state" (as we percieve it) in order to take place - which in fact is a process of ongoing, repeated will to keep this "state". Because it is repeated will, it seems like it was static - seemingly always the same, but it is not, it changes and it is a dynamic process, just like quantum physics describe a table being re-created on and on by particles moving through it with a striking big speed.
In this sense, everything, like sun or the whole universe is kept because of will. It is not a state, as classical physics or material world tells us - it is an illusion.
Connecting directly with something we could call our higher will allows to reach that point of creation. Acting from this high point of will helps us to exceed the limitations of time and space and go directly to the creation process (not a state). I think here lays a key to the total rejuvenation after all: reaching the point of on-going creation, a "state" - being a result of a process - maintain thanks to the will.
At this moment I am researching qabbalah in order to combine this information with the manifestation (creation) process indicated by the qabbalah tree.
In the future - if the worst (apocalyptic) scenario is not going to take place on the Earth - people are going to live longer and longer. This is partly because of bigger interest and care about health. This time already started (we live in these curious, pioneer times). Possibly some people and species would have to leave the planet, as I heard... Anyway, the talk about required frequency makes sense to me, and this probably explains why the governments try to keep the lower frequency as much as possible. Like with use of the recent Australia events.
I think it is important to know what causes the body cells to integrate, and what makes them desintegrating. DNA strands are actually in the core of this life-death (sustainance-enthropy) duality process when the Earth-based biological forms are considered. DNA is like a program (yin) to our cells; energy (yang) is like fuel to our cells. This means that we have 2 factors at hand to deal with: to provide proper, high, cleanse energy to cells ("cleanse" is quite a relative term - there is a criterion under which something is cleanse or not; in terms of human energy it is a difference between core frequency / spirit and the actual - temporal - frequency of one's energy); and to re-program DNA. Reprogramming DNA is not difficult, as it may sound. It just takes applying your high consciousness (spirit) with help of the body. Body is prepared for this process, as it has the "gates" to the other dimensions - glands - which in turn may modify the body - and they do, all the time. The difference between automatic and deliberate influence on DNA / body is that we need to set such an intent. The biggest guiding, directing gland is pineal gland, the higher tan t'ien, 3rd eye, providing the spirit (shen) energy into the aura and body. Doing that is like learning riding on a bike, or anything - step by step it becomes more natural and obvious, to the extent that you would start to think how come that you didn't do this before. Rejuvenating body is just a process - the energetic one. Masses don't observe it (although some unconsciously are in this process and benefit from it), because they are energy-blind, as they were taught to be so. But the laws of the universe work regardless if one is eager to admit their existence, or not. Taking advantage of lack of ignorance leads to a better quality lives, which is a natural way for humanity - as they won't have to have so many short incarnations, re-learning the same things in each life-time, and achieving much more within a single life-time.
The immortality process is a grand one: it is the travel through the shadows of the subconsciousness so that the spirit frequency could reach the earthy body (cells) without obstacles.
Interesting excerpt from the Nei Jing (Chinese medical / taoist classic)
I put some phrases in bold for emphasis the essential parts which are - according to my current knowledge - important to be followed. I'll take later time to explain all of them, but at the beginning I start with the simple things:Quote:
...those who follow the Way [i.e. taoists], they can drive away old age and they preserve their physical appearance.
...They upheld the patterns of heaven and earth and they grasped the regularity of yin and yang.
They exhaled and inhaled essence qi. They stood for themselves and guarded their spirit. Muscles and flesh were like one.
Hence, they were able to achieve longevity, in correspondence with heaven and earth. There was no point in time when their life could have come to an end. Such was their life in the Way.
...They were of pure virtue and they were entirely in accord with the Way. They adapted themselves to the regularity of yin and yang and they lived in harmony with the four seasons.
They left the world and they departed from the common. They accumulated essence and preserved their spirit. They roamed between heaven and earth and their vision as well as their hearing went beyond the eight reaches. This way, they added to their lifespan and were strong.
...Next, there were the sages. They lived in harmony with heaven and earth and they followed the patterns of the eight winds.
They accomodated their cravings and their desires within the world and the common and their heart knew no anger.
...They made every effort to achieve peaceful relaxation and they considered self-realization as success. Their physical body did not deteriorate and their essence and their spirit did not dissipate.
Essence, in Chinese jing, is the closest to the physical body energy which sustains its functions. It is different, more gross I'd say, energy than qi is, which in turn is the universal energy for body closer to astral and can be untilized in many ways, starting from mental or emotional, to finally physical transformation.
Yin and Yang - are the most general "keys" to be watched on the way to the immortality. They are maybe too general in practice, but are good references. Heaven (cosmos) and Earth (matter) are basically also yang and yin, respectively, however they are seperate because they are manifested yang and yin (in opposite to unmanifested polars).
I already talked about the importance of spirit (or shen energy in TCM) before - the Chinese book uses the term of "preservence", which I refer to as "connection", but the idea is the same: loosing the spirit frequency disconnects us from the source of life / our original frequency. Spirit frequency is then kept in body.
Eight winds refer to the 8 world directions or 8 fundamental cosmic energies present on the Earth. They must be balanced, just like wu-xing (5 elements).
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Originally Posted by Antares
The taoists principles are solid. Developing the 3 dan tiens leads to health and an abundant life. What Robert Bruce calls the energy storage centers. Especially the lower dan tien which is in the navel. The taoists consider that the foundation for health and wellness in life.
Most people will pass away without developing these dan tiens.
A person with a fully developed lower dan tien, will naturally have energy rise to the other 2. One in the solar plexus and another in the center of the head. And there is also another one above the head.
Both aid the person in containing and converting energy.
A fully developed dan tien will have some pretty amazing qualities. Like even guiding what you eat.
Yeah mostly this would be like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by atsguy
Where did the information about additional dan tien (or tan tien) come from?
Most what you wrote about is basic material, taught by people like Mantak Chia. Indeed the results can be amazing, but I think that it is just a beginning. Connection between all the dan tiens, and even involving other centers, may possibly lead to enormous results, beyond what an average human being is capable of.
Alain Herriott, author of Super Charging Quantum Touch outlines a technique he calls "Rejuvenation Technique" utilizing the U-Nan symbol and the 12 color meditation. It must be done every day consistently for an hour to have a 24 hour cycle run continuously. People who have done it have reported reversal of gray hair, wrinkles and old wounds healing. Alain stated that he did the meditation daily long enough to see the return of his original hair color but decided that the hour long daily mediation was too onerous to maintain just to keep the gray away. I have 'played' with the mediation but I cannot consistently set aside the same hour everyday to do the meditation. I really need to return to it again though. I've been trying to heal my adrenals and it's been really slow going. I had been doing it to try and keep myself strong so I could be my brother's caregiver when he was battling cancer. He's been gone now for a couple of years. His death really hit me strong and I had a major relapse that I'm just beginning to pull out of but I keep having mini relapses because of the current stress in my life just doesn't seem to go away. I worry about my husband and my daughter. Both are dealing with stressful issues themselves. My husband had a difficult work environment and chronic pain so I worry about him. My daughter is in her 4th year of college, she switched majors and still is having 2nd thoughts but much of that is fueled from her anxiety and natural indecisiveness. So I worry about her and I often have to deal with frantic phone calls, though she is getting better and has matured a lot these last four years, she still is a major source of stress for me. /sigh/
Chrysalis thanks for sharing this information. I just took a quick view of that author, seems quite promising. Not expecting much (as always), but a curious read in free time no doubt.
But I can tell you one thing from my own discoveries: it is not about this or that ritual, meditation, technique or method. What's solely important - just like with magic - is your intent, mind-work, energy-work...
It might not matter much whether you do "quantum-modern-super-charging" excercise, or ancient yoga or qi-gong excercises. All in all it's everything about the mind.
From what you wrote, it is quite obvious to me that you are a bit lost person. You have too many worries. This is a simple way to aging. Like I said, it is all about mind / energy. Try to calm down, keep your mind clear, creative and strengthen your connection to your deepest part (which is sometimes called "spirit"). Disturbing emotions won't help you nor your relatives, I'm certain of that. Taking the burdens off of your mind should make any excercises, methods, or anything related to rejuvenation much more effective. I must say I doubt in the author's approach when you wrote about "1 hour necessery", I don't think such ridig, formal rules lead to anything beyond average achievement, but I didn't read this or other books (the recent was from 2016, also seems to be an interesting read), so I suspend my idea what is this approach about in actuality.
After all, rejuvenation is not about doing (rather, not-doing, or wu-wei state as in taoism) - it is about being, connection, mind, thinking, feeling and life style.
Thanks, but I'm not looking for advice or any mansplaining. I guess I'll just go back to lurking and keep my fingers off the keyboard.
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Originally Posted by Antares
Sure, you are welcome ;) But keep in mind that as a public forum it is supposed to be a public discussion-oriented, and many people have issues like the ones you describe; the advice is general, more than personal. This is a typical scenario most of people are in, do not take it personally then. I think the whole thing is not that difficult as it seems; people just don't want to take over their minds and allow forces to control them. I'm speaking of thoughts, emotions, energy etc. Mind / energy control is probably the biggest issue and source of difficulties, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
When watching people talking about immortality, I look at them closely, try to get a sense of their... original essence - if you know what I mean by this. Each person has a unique, original "vibrational-chord" or frequency, or whatever you want to call it. It's infinite in the sense that it is never exhausted (just like taoists described tao). It just is, it is not dependent on space or time (it is beyond time-space). I call it "the inner core", but this is just a label.
Most of people are aware only of their thoughts and lower emotions. Some are aware also of their higher thoughts and higher and inspiring feelings. But the idea is to get even beyond that, to make the connection to this inner core.
When looking at the people I mentioned, I compare them to how they looked when they were really young (were at age of typically 20-30 years old), and how do they look now. I try to identify if the energy that they have changed in time. Whether they have the same fresh "vitality", how their skin look like, even more importantly how much youngness and fresh outlook is there in their eyes etc. Believe it or not, the same applies to absense or presence of any illness - and illness is just an effect of the energy lacking. Energy lacking causes both illness and body cells degredation. Rejuvenation is the opposite: integration. Aging means degrading, rejuvenating means integrating, if to put it in simple words. Behind those two extremes, is the energy that is flowing - or not. Energy obeys universal laws - resonance. To be in perfect resonance means to be connected to the inner core. So this is the essence of everything. Immortality achievement - on physical, ethereal, astral, or whatever level - is always the same then.
I try to have a feeling of their original essence. The typical feeling is that they loose that original essence (despite what they claim, even if they are renown masters in the fields they claim they are related to esoteric subjects).
Immortality, health, rejuvenation, or in other words original essence cannot be hidden behind concepts, terms, philosophy, theology, or even scientific methods (mechanics: DNA engineering, quantum mechanics, or whatever else). There is a connection and energy incoming from that infinite source - or there is not. I believe it is just that simple. Pay attention to your energy and typical feelings - when they slide down on any level, it's a sign of enthropy.
How to imagine the inner core, or the original essence in relation to other levels - the physics might be of help here. ;)
The triangle inside the core symbolizes the inner core / original essence. The distance from the center means level / layer of reality. The read ball may mean here the furthest level: physical. The dotted line contains all the other levels in between physicality and the inner core. The circural motion shows how much work (round distance on the image) is needed on each level for energy to manifest itself on this level (therefore, physical level requires the biggest distance / work for energy to manifest).
The inner core doesn't move. It is fixed. Everything else contains movement. (The triangle on the image changes the way it is directed to; the inner core doesn't of course - but we may have such an impression because of our limited perception - to view it from different perspectives / angles).
To be in a perfect alignment with the core means to be in resonance with it (when energy flows / flunctuates exactly in the "rythm" of the core). Typical situation is however that a person is disconnected, or only partly connected, and then each level works on its own. If this happens, the person is not truly self. It is a betrayal to the original essence ;) To get a sense of true self and make it stable (fixed) is what brings the ultimate achievement or perfect balance.
Being out of balance means simply to cause energy to flunctuate not in the accord with the original essence - and thus to loose the connection of our original life-"fuel" source. This is simply happening because of no resonance in such a situation.
The qabbalah tree may help here - the inner core is hidden behind the Kether. The physicality is hidden under the lowest, Malkuth, sphere. All the other levels must be in balance. Also, the ancient Chinese philosophy of wu-xing may give another (vertical) perspective of the same: the Earth element is the balanced one, all the others astray from it - think of Earth element as a central sphere in the qabbalah tree; the others (Water, Fire, Wood, Metal) are either on the left or on the right side. But as I mentioned in the previous post, let the terminology not confuse you; they act only as a model that is supposed to be a showcase, nothing more.
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From my observations, the biggest enemy to integration is... human personality.
(This doesn't mean it should be removed; but it should be in alignment, which I described below).
I'm reading Robert Bruce's MAP book and he recommended dedicating 30 minutes a day to worrying and that's it, if you find worry some thoughts arising. Another thing that helps me, but may not be achievable for you because it happens for me fairly easily is to always be aware of my thoughts feelings and emotions, so when a unhealthy thought is triggered in my head I don't have to follow it through. I can redirect my attention to something else. This is where meditating daily comes in handy, it creates an awareness of your thoughts feelings and emotions. Overtime it helps you do it even when you aren't meditating. My mind gets distracted all day and I stay aware of that inattentiveness (which may also be hard for you to do as I started doing it fairly easily). These things help me deal with my life problems. For what it's worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Quote from another taoist book (medicines chapter) on 3 kinds of illnesses:
Vapor is another term for qi.Quote:
...sleeping in wet clothes... from working too hard and tiring yourself, or from eating not properly, you will suffer from what is called the illnesses of the seasons... if you do not cultivate [the Tao] and if you follow the desires of your heart, you will lose the primordial yang, dissipate the true vapoer, and age swiftly. This is called the illness of aging... if your form is emptied of vapor and if the spirit is gone, your body will have no ruler and you will die.
This short excerpt shows how important is energy (qi) and spirit, which I referred to multiple times in this thread.
The choice between sin and praise... a sinner does not know either!Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares
In reality, there is no sin, only astray.Quote:
Originally Posted by olyris
The essence of immortality:
Everything else is astray.Quote:
Follow your own (true) nature
It's true, when the universe is astray, the Fool knows to behave... and behaving is a will.
Interesting point. Taoists stated that the universe never goes astray, but always follows its nature (hence their premise that we should learn from the universe, and achieve eternal state - immortality - just as the universe is ever-lasting). Behaving, on the other hand, seems to be only an external presence, not a true nature to follow. I believe that there's also a distinction between a "will" (what one's ego / mind is willing) and the true will (to be discovered clearly when not astray, i.e. when in alignment with own's nature). Does it make sense? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by olyris
I would it say that it makes sense to prophecise one's will beyond hope.
Example:
"I do what I ought to, so it goes the way it should."
Doing what the moment now predicates is indeed evil (vengeance) manifest. I see ants, Londoner's, terra firma itself, establishing the truth that the way it is is the way it is. I honestly think that people could use a little self-exertion, where the future is concerned.
Keep using the sun. Keep the sunrise interact with your aura and physical body. Eyes are especially sensitive to the sun light.
The sun rays aren't the same during the whole year. They differ depending on the angle with which they reach the planet.
Spring (I'm living on the northern hemisphere, like probably most of people here), starting with the equinox, is the most powerful time for the sun to influence the Earth. It bears the energy of birth and the new beginnings. This type of energy is the one that is most powerful available here, as I mentioned.
Take the oppurtinity now and use this free energy source in the solar system to work for your benefit. Because this is why it exists.
Sage. I was watching some ice skating on YouTube - and It's been chilly for me ever since. :shock:
I think the sun is a Higher Self.
The sexual alchemy of sunlight:
Lead into sunlight is the thought: I want to be myself.
Sexual lead (cinnabar chloride, "matter") into sunlight: I know creation, and creation knows me.
Now, this thesis applies to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ virus specifically in that sunlight is needing genesis (original nature) at this time. So, if you are a fool, and if you know the word "me" - for crying out loud, it's a beautiful day!
H2S + AuCl -> H2SCl(-) + Au(+)
The positive charge of gold plus negative ions from pine trees, waves breaking, stones cloving... sex is wise. H2SCl(-) is just excrement, in comparison. Do you know how far this parable goes? Clean is good, and unclean is bad. Religion is for the awakened.. self.
edit: There is nothing like a freshly cleaned house, by the beach, with some pine trees, in some ultimate reality.
I will tell this parable at once for I have 'dunnit.
The antiphilosophical alchemical initiate experimented with a reddish gold substance, his cinnabar. He lit it with his mother's lighter and the whole world turned into black reason. What did he do? He, created the Philosopher's Stone, with all the power in it to formulate the Elixir of Life. He burned his baccy with intelligence and somehow The Thing went wrong. "Anyway," he decided, "when it goes wrong I am that I am." He cried the Elixir of Life when he realised he was right, his reason being, life is too beautiful to share with the caring. What's caring anyway? A way to be said "no" unto.
The rejuvenation of sunlight is the surrendering of "what is common" - and I am.
What Cl does stand for (symbolically)?Quote:
Originally Posted by olyris
Not for god. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by olyris
Cl means love whereas Fl means light - Au means alone. All of the elements in the periodic table are human virtuous exact experiences - hence you see drug users believing that they are heroes.
Positive gold Au(+) otherwise known is Ormus is neutralised well by the forces around you. It becomes extremely objective about truth. You are beautiful. It's in cocoa.
I think that love and light are universal, and inherent in every single particle. When there's no light, there's also no Au, Ag, Cl, Fl, and anything else. Au is sun (or Australia, the sun on the Earth, if you insist), Ag is moon (or underground, the shady land under the Earth), that's for sure. Both are, respectively, the 2 of the 3 treasures (middle - the solar plexus, and lower - the navel), also called tan ti'ens. I suspect however that "salt" principle in alchemy is not actually related to particles like Cl or Fl; it's the universal principle appliable to any particle - some just have a bigger tendency toward it.
The remaining third treasure, the higher tan t'ien, is connected to the shen energy and spirit (beyond any solar system or galaxy), the most subtle energy of the three. It creates the seed, the true nature.
Seed (of immortality)
When undersanding the nature of microcosm (human being), the immortality becomes obvious way. Everything starts from the subtlest nuances of our being. They can be sensed, and are always at hand. However, human being, disconnected, still has a free will: to decide to live, or to die, after all.
Ayurveda, or early christian religion, among the others, treated "death" word not just literally; it was at the same time a symbolic idea of "disconnecting" (turning back from spirit). To die means to disconnect - from life (spirit).
To stay connected means to re-create seed of spirit (immortal life) within. In our universe it works thanks to the principle of resonance: having seed means having a resonating connection to the spirit, called sometimes "the gateway". Of course, it's the gateway to immortality, and not only - to all the gifts the spirit has to give.
Yes, I have done this. To lie to oneself as thought God is not in self...Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares
To set the matter straight, God is in self insofar as power is within the means it knows it has - IN OTHER WORDs: No jumping off cliff B!
"Agstralia" is a blue moon to every other country, but, as I like to put it, every country has its own sun and his or her own birthright!Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares
The salt principle is specifically "life is normal," never to be "life is wrong"... a pitfall in alchemy... what to do...
Sun and Moon
Au(alone) = Na(destructive)Cl(love)
OR
Au(alone)Cl(love) = Na(destructive)F(light)
Is there any arguing with this??? :nono:
This would make the "gateway" a case of looking up through cosmic understanding of self into "forever"...
Yes. Only we put the limitations on self. The gateway is never closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by olyris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbYG30ucL7Q
I made some progress in the recent time. What I learnt for the last several months is that most people will never go into that direction. Not because they are at some level not dreaming about it - but because life is not inherent in the physical but in the conscious (spirit). First, the limitations of perception have to be overridden. People like you can achieve it because of hightened perception. Most, won't, so they can only rely on "magic pills", which today is technology. But I can bet that technology alone cannot manage life forces. Both are actually the opposites.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFTraveler
Humanity <-> Technology
the in-between: death. :shock:
Edit: And by that I mean, conquer yourself supposed wrong.
LifeQuote:
Originally Posted by olyris
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Humanity
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Death
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Technology
- a new tree of life, adjusted to the current paradigms, so that society could understand the ideas ;)
In translation, it'd be something like:
Kether (the life)
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Tiphareth (the mind)
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Yesod (the underworld)
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Malkuth (the matter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TcDHrkQYgQuote:
Originally Posted by Alphaville
Dear Antares...
First, remember, you are not your physical body. Beyond any spiritual concern, at this physical world, the real you is the info stored at your mind. You can lost arms, legs, genitals, circulatory system, breathing system, digestive system, and the most of your nerve network, etc., replace them by cybernetic hardware, and while you retain your memories (of course, if you survives trauma of such physical surgery), you'll stay.
Second, if you wants preserve your personality forever, there is hope for you and is provided by "Strategic Social Initiative (SSI)" endeavour.
This subject (SSI) is in deep treated at following websites:
2045.com
gf2045.com
This subjetct (SSI) was already treated at this forums. Simply, search "2045" ('Words at Title' option), and you'll get opinions included the one from Robert Bruce.
My best regards,
Ángel
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Originally Posted by Antares
Thank you for sharing. I'll check the websites more deeply later. At first glance they seem to me, however, like a typical pretty official news websites, I mean the feeling is institutional (non-human - which should be the essential point in such a case), and results in resistance, not attraction.
There are absolutely no authorities to me, so you do not have to refer to any, but focus on bare facts.
Analysis for the things I write about on the forum took me years to get to the point where I am now, and it won't end. It is worth to re-verify everything on a regular basis when new facts arise - something rarely seen in the today's world, including the scientific circles.
I know about that. It is well known that humans have "souls" (replace it with any term of your liking), a non-physical counter-part - both in religious and esoteric or new age fields for many thousands of years. Just the form of these beliefs changes, like recently with the "OBE" term and alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by -asalantu-
But you are also not your astral body. Nor mental. Nor spiritual. None.
Yes, you 'are'.
I agree with Robert A. Monroe or Robert Bruce that we are more than physical.
But the essential point is: how to view the physical, then? The typical people's implication is: we 'should not' put much interest in it. Well... I discuss it more on that below.
So, keeping the above in mind, the universe as we know it can be considered therefore a field of consciousness to play. How much we can play within it - on ANY level - depends on us.
The mistake people do with the paradigms you mentioned is that they allow others to control those fields - and they are falsely informed (by e.g. religious systems, including the atheist system) that they should not put their interest in their rights to a particular levels of existence.
Do not make this mistake.
Religions for thousands of years tried to impose on humans the idea that the body is not important, and that people 'should' focus their concerns mainly on after-world. Also many people on this forum believe so. I already wrote about these here: https://www.astraldynamics.com.au/sh...life-how-is-it
However, astral (believed commonly to be this after-world, which not necesserily can be the case) can be enslaved as much as physical realm.
As you stated, the crucial aspect is "mind" - so in the end it is mind manipulation that only can do any "harm" to us. And it does. That's why it is important what I write about: to re-verify everything, question everything, and choose your paradigms carefully. It's important to develop yourself, your connection to all parts of yourself at all levels. Everyone's unique, therefore I cannot say to anyone what is the best for him or her - and no one should. However, some believe that we, as a sort of resource, should be "utilized" for certain purposes. The key part of this manipulative slavery is indeed the mind - kept in the darkness and chaos of predetermined beliefs propagated from your first day here.
Part of this system of beliefs is how you should approach and what to think about your physical body and physical in general. Again do not make this mistake - think for yourself, get into deeper parts of yourself and ask why am I in the physical now?
I am sure that physical DNA can be reprogrammed - without using material (technological) means for that purpose. Also, your ethereal part can be. Your astral, mental, spiritual - as well. In the end, everything's energy.
I am opposite to any "cyber" agendas to store memories or personality with use of technology, as found in some SF books or movies. It again takes your attention away from what is most important - yourself at deeper levels!
Try to consider the idea that everything that you need you have already inside of you - and you may decide about your existence, whether it is astral, physical, or of any other form. Leaving just one of these levels to others to control them would result only in your surrender to them - at all levels. It is really not something you want deeply, I am sure of that.
My view is the following: all levels are integrated, and in the end - in the point where the pure "mind" exists - there is no difference, all is energy, a field of play of consciousness. It does not really matter where you surrender: at physical, at astral, or anywhere else. What matters is your choice: to surrender, or not.
You were from the child programmed to believe in your physical death, you might also believe that you need to "deserve" for heaven, or any stuff like that.
Stop. Re-verify what you've been told.
I do not want to tell people what to think, but if you'd like to hear my "secret", I believe that we have a right to live wherever, whenever, at any level of existence we want - including all of them at once: physical, ethereal, astral, spiritual... This right has been taken away from the humanity thousands of years ago, and particularly involved DNA - the program for the body and its cells - modifications. This of course was a part of bigger plan.
This is just a short view, and has of course a wider context to what happened for the last thousands of years: the laws of time and the grand cycles for Earth. We are currently at the threshold of the end of possibly the darkest era of human kind.
You have a right to believe what you want, and reclaim whatever rights you need. This means freeing your mind from such beliefs - and their consequences.
Anything that technology can do, nature can do better - magic. The tech frequency (Hu) is fear, which is sincere, ok? Natural or real magic, on the other hand, has everything.
I do think so, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by olyris
This is not something surprising: technology may only rely on something - and the 'something' needs to be controlled directly by the yin element. When energy becomes too much yang, as highly vibrating small particles do, it becomes difficult to control through yin. There's this limitation that physicists face now and are unable to create quantum computers.
Yin is fear. Yang is desire.
Magic or mysticism, in a wide sense, requires both, yin and yang (which means everything - there is no other thing in the universe but yin and yang) - but relies on none.
Through desire, you attract into self (this is how magic works), while through fear you keep away what you want to avoid (this is the fear hidden in technological use motivation). Sounds abstract, but I believe this is how things are in the end. For instance, why one does need marketing data to be processed through technology? IMHO, in the end (s)he fears that not controlling (yin) all the data (on competition, on customers, on sales...) may bring her/him out of the market. Compare it to the law of attraction (yang), where you put your focus on belief that you would get the final result (stay on the market, not just for survival, but for thrive).
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The yin/yang is perfectly capable of conceiving of sex, but it will it do to itself what is called Moksha? I think it takes a strong universe... inside self.
The vegatative forces
When increasing consciousness, I became strongly aware of the life forces within the whole organism. By the latter I do not mean just physical body, but all the energy forces (qi or prana) supporting it, as well as my "energy self" - independent from the physical body.
What I can say from my observations, is that people totally do not know / understand what they are dealing with when (incarnated) in the body. To them, it seems to be an automatic system: something somehow works, and he or she can just use her or his will to manipulate this body (through the electric impulses of the nervous system - but who cares? :P ).
It is automatic. And it is largely guided by the cells of the DNA, and... well, this might be hard to believe in the context of the current belief system, but the organism reacts strongly to the thoughts (emotions, energy etc.).
The problem is lack of integration between the energy self and the body self.
Body in its nature, from what I observed, is very vegetative, very passive yin force. It does not do much just by itself, it just is, just like a plant. Take for example a tree - a fantastic biological "machine" system: it is so well designed that it can potentially live for centuries or even thousands of years. Really a great system, but in the end it is just a vegetative consciousness.
Human is different. Chinese cosmological system placed humanity between the Earth (yin, vegetative forces), and Heaven (yang, pure conscious forces). Most of people spend their lives within their minds - the mental selves, egos. They are not aware of the other forces involved in their beings. This is due to the common ignorance.
Human does not have such a perfect system; his or her DNA, additionally, must have had been modified. DNA resides in cell - being the part of the vegetative system and forces behind it. To get a proper result with the physical body, also proper energy and consciousness is required - and this means influencing the vegetative forces by your mind. Your awareness is your guide.
I can sense strongly my energy self within/outside the body, and the difference between it and the vegetative forces (physical body). They do not integrate quite well.
I believe there could have had been times when people lived for thousands of years in the very ancient times. In fact, there are chronicles stating it. Today, it is different. The conscious work is needed - a certain level of awareness and energy work for getting be friends with your body.
What most people do, however, is totally ignore the vegetative forces. In such a case, the body has no choice but to fade - and fade means dying. Your energy self leaves unaware, looking for another "shell" (incarnation), in order to repeat the same again, and again, and again, never having a clue what the vegetative forces actually are. People do not believe they can manage energies and it is not difficult to do so. This involves vegetative forces - the physical body. You can also modify DNA consciously, not just unconsciously. I know that Edgar Cayce stated similar, not in the same words as I do, but he explained well how the whole human organism works.
It takes the mind to rejuvenate. The body is the result, not the cause.
I think that Bruce Lipton is right: these are we who change DNA - but thoughts require energy, and energy requires light, so that ether could combine with the physical DNA.
So it seems that your worries won't ever fulfill... I think that I've just found out why tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFTraveler
First... let me give you a wider context. It has a lot to do with the current stage of the whole civilization.
I cannot be sure for 100%, but there is a big chance that humanity on the Earth is destined to extinct soon. The beings from whom I by a coincidence retrieved the information (they did not tell me that, but I figured it out by our talk) seem to be very not happy about the direction of the civilization - as a whole and as a majority of individuals. Choosing between the devastated Earth and destroyed civilization, they prefer the latter, and we are going to repeat the Atlantis scenario soon - probably. The experiment is considered to be a failure.
Now, to the rejuvenation. People won't be given this information, they think humanity do not *deserve* that, they know the formula but keep it a secret. People are going to die. Even prolongating lives probably won't be the case.
To be not wrongly understood: I don't mean that acheiving immortality is not possible. It is. There are chronicles and even handbooks translated to English which cover this topic (not entirely, but you can find them). Handbooks are certainly not enough. Your own sacrifice, interest and research is required, just like with OBE. You don't do OBE by reading a book; you actually don't need any books at all.
However, what I meant, is that it won't be publically available, and certain level of frequency is probably required to achieve in order to transform cells in your body. If you achieve this, and if you gain certain level of psychic skills (which BTW in some ways Robert Bruce covers), nothing is impossible.
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I am reminded in carlos castanedas book the concept of the death defyier. And in Robert Monroe’s books the being he called heshe, a androgynous human who has lived for thousands of years, and coincidently the most advanced living human at the time of Monroe’s writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares
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One of the things robert Monroe noticed from heshe, was the energy the being gave off. It was a mix of feminine and masculine. Coincidently the being was androgouse.
It could be that in order for humans to extend their lives without technology, there may need to be a energetic rebalancing. The masculine and feminine energies probably must come into complete balance. And this transforms the individual into androgonyse person displaying both feminine and masculine characteristics physically. Probably because of the energetic changes causing hormonal changes to the body, that might facilitate extended life.
If heshe was a real individual in Robert Monroe’s work, I could definitely see the importance in a undertaking like that. Probably so that the knowledge of whatever school of mysticism keeps retaining its original teachings well into the far future. Or maybe so that these individuals can guide humanity to survivor the trials of civilization.
Thanks for sharing.
This is not a surprise to me. I learnt about the subject enough to know it all goes down to energies. If to indicate written sources, the biggest revelation came from the ancient Chinese and Egyptian texts, which they called "sacred". I'm almost 100% certain the knowledge inherent there in most is older than those civilizations and come from the Atlantean temples.Quote:
Originally Posted by atsguy
In brief, the whole universe (macrocosm) works because of yang and yin energies (more - most - universal versions of what people call "masculine" and "feminine"). Human being (microcosm) works because of them as well.
Soul, the astral body, works because of them as well. And everything else.
Yang and Yin combine together in order to produce any result: when it's more yang, it's very subtle, and when it's more yin, it's manifestation. Both combined are presented as Qi (as universal energy), and both are required. Otherwise, I believe, you would shift to one of the polars (Yang if too 'unmanifested', and Yin if too gross), and simply cease to exist (at any level). You would leave the universe then: astral, mental, spiritual, physical - any! It's not possible to be purely yang or purely yin and exist within this universe!
As stated by Lao-Tzy, the number of combinations between Yin and Yang (different variants of Qi energy) are 10.000 in number, which means infinite. You have infinite ways of choosing your path to immortality, but all of them will require some combination of both opposite energies (balanced).
Balance between Yin and Yang, or Water and Fire, or as you stated, feminine and masculine, is essential.
But what does it mean in practice?
The problem is, human being does not use his/her fullest potential. It is clearly stated in the old Chinese taoist books: basically, a typical human is a yin type (earth energy, as opposed to heaven energy). However, you can shape your physical body, if you know how to do this. I believe it requires working with your body directly, and controlling the hormons which it produces. Being androgynous is just one of multiple variants, but yes, I've read about it in some modern taoist book.
I think it is not possible at all with bare technology to achieve it. Technology has no life - spirit has. You also cannot control spirit with any technology, but spirit is "so time-less" that it typically works with you, whatever motivations you have, so basically it allows you to experiment with life energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by atsguy
In fact, in the end everything is energy - which comes from so-called spirit. To me, it's a matter of a proper connection (techniques that allow you to go beyond), rather than using purely scientific solutions (technology that keeps you within your current boundaries). It's a matter of being conscious of beyond: your mind has no limits - other than those you choose, also unconsciously. Remove "un"-conscious, and you naturally become conscious.
As you suggested, without proper energies life is not possible; you may modify life through genetic engineering, but that' all. And this is what, I believe, was happening for the recent thousands of years on the Earth: changing the DNA of species, including human beings. Playing with life energy.
But life energy requires being conscious of it in order to keep it as you want: on any level. If not, you are going to die also astrally, for instance.
Yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by atsguy
...yet, this is just how people understand energies. To me it seems much more universal, and you can really do more than just that. This means you may have also control over how your body shapes, when you master those energies: yin and yang.Quote:
Originally Posted by atsguy
Probably, Atlanteans did this. Scriptures from Egypt, Mesopotamia, and some other ancient civilizations state so. They know what they are doing keeping it secret. For a diligent researcher, however, nothing is impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by atsguy
To me, the equation which you indicated (female + masculine) seems flat. People are taught to think in the linear way. Try to think of equations not as lines, but as geometrical, multidimensional, complex objects, involving more than just few elements in one line. Particularly, think of the triangle. Combine these two, universal Water and universal Fire elements in one line combined with the Spirit vertex at the top, thus creating a triangle.
This is the essential, but missing part. Spirit is invisible, thus so easily overlooked and not taken into equation by modern science, nor people's thinking. There lay the "secret" to conscious life.
Note that "conscious" is the key. Because the energies from your physical (astral, mental...) body, for instance, will survive, in some form, anyway - but without your conscious control or connection with / to them... then, you will become NOT conscious of them anymore after your death... People believe that immortality is impossible; but this would mean that being eternally conscious is impossible.
Impossible, however, is the opposite: to become totally not conscious. Consciousness (what people call "mental") comes from the yang, calmness (what people call "matter") comes from the yin. All of that is Qi spectrum - and electromagnetic spectrum exists within the universal Qi spectrum. You may shift between the levels of this spectrum, even within one sub-level, like astral level. You do this by changing your frequencies (no surprise).
So, in the end, it - life - is a play with life energies (spirit).
To know spirit (life), energies - you need to go beyond logical, rational thinking, go beyond any technology-oriented thinking. As some masters said:
Which means going backward within your mental part of mind, going beyond (dissolving) what you "absorbed" during your current life. Try first to go back to the time when you were an infant. This is one way indicated by many taoists, for instance, or... by Jesus. Try to sense what you felt then, re-gain this fresh, un-disturbed perspective, not stirred with your rational thinking yet. There leads the way to the "mystery of life", as Lao-Tzy called it so.Quote:
Unlearn what you learnt
Then, try to go beyond your current incarnation. All of those memories you have within, and consciousness (playing with your mind) is what makes them conscious for yourself.
Robert Bruce indicated so many times how important is memory. However, I'd say, memory is just consciousness.
Few observations.
You may notice that in matter "down" and "up" forces (as some taoists call them) work. It's not just gravity (whatever it is, in fact); it's the "down" force which makes everything down - on all levels. Down force can be likened to death.
Up force can be likened to life. It brings everything into a higher stage.
Everything in life (by which I mean multidimensional self and life, not just physical body) is a choice, after all. Unconscious choices are still choices!
This is the key.
The trick is to bring more up forces to the body (which is created of unconscious matter, basically) so that it was frequentially hightened. It's your choice to be made.
Most people, however, make this choice without a conscious will. This is what humanity is learning right now: to make choices on your personal energy and body.
Cayce pointed it in the straightforward way:
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Originally Posted by Edgar Cayce
You think - your mind thinks - and you consider it "you", your personality. It is, however, in a very sense disconnected from your body. People hardly are able to "connect" consciously to their organs and tissues.
For instance, feel your skin. How?
Just by using your thoughts. You may encounter an obstacle here. This is how you were trained to think, and to disconnect from your body. Your personality is a big hinderence in achieving, basically, anything.
Re-connecting to your energy, to your body, to your spirit and so on, is done by raising your energy (or vibration) and refocusing your mind on non-intellectual aspects of reality and yourself - basically more on sensing than thinking. This, in turn, allows you to establish up-forces within.
And this, in turn, rejuvenates the body.
I've noticed that scanning my skin led me to a discovery that the down forces are working, all the time, day by day, month by month. Not providing the up-forces leads to loosing the up-down forces balance, which in the end leads to something people call "death". Providing up forces, on the other hand, keeps yourself refreshed all the time.
Scanning regularly your organs, your skin, feelings in particular of skin around your mouth (which is frequently the first subject of aging process) would tell you in what state it currently is. Your mental work changes this state. Training it on a regular basis makes it easier and easier in a longer period to shape your energy and your body. Treat it like any training. The universe works with forces: you may consciously provide the type of forces which in turn shape yourself on all levels, from the physical to pure mental ones.
I wrote already a bit on personality being the biggest obstacle. I will write about it more, but what I put here is the essential thing: energy and its vibration, and thinking processes related to it. Both are inseperable. Changing thoughts leads to changing energy, which leads to changing the result (body).
Working with consciousness has side effects as I noticed.
Here's a very short list of what can happen (I could write a book on that, so here are only some of the observations):
- my power of thoughts increased somehow
- my effect on others increased somehow
- some people are afraid of me (because I notice too much, like constant manipulations of the society - and people are used to have it unnoticed)
- control over body processes, energetic and physical; it is not possible for me anymore to be unconscious in this area, like most of people are
- addiction to higher quality energies (any drop in energy is quickly noticed)
I also try to keep myself healthy, which turned into a habit, e.g. my body has a constant energy for movement, and like most of people have difficulties in excersising or something, I have difficulties in not doing it. I am also addicted to constant fresh air delivery.
In essence, down forces are the ones of vegetative nature. People, animals, and plants rely on it. They are provided by fluids and material means, like food; in general, by the Earth frequencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares
Up forces is something not quite common among habitants of the Earth. In taoism it is shen, in qabbalah it is the force of Kether and beyond it. Basically, it is a force that is created by pure consciousness.
The idea is to unite both. What most of people do, is relying on down forces only; some adepts of buddhism, hindu practices etc. do the opposite: focus only on up forces. I believe humanity is going into a new stage where both can be finally joined together, and not being seperated. If it won't happen, people would still remain on the same low, matter-focused level. Hence the consciousness influence (resulting in creation of the up forces).
I observed that consciousness energy (up force) is similar to Wind from pa-kua (bagua), tries to penertate and find any resonance (reaction) to merge, but typically it fails because of no will of a particular person to respond to it. Down force is similar to Lake from pa-kua, it has gravity and brings you down, also with overly strong emotions, also those considered to be positive in our culture like laughing. Now I start to understand why taoists recommended emotional balance. Strong emotions disrupt personal energy, deny the subtle influence of shen (spiritual up forces), provide imbalance, and disconnect from the spiritual "link", which later must be either re-gained, or down forces would keep your energies low.