What the Bleep do we know

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Originally Posted by pmlonline

One day they will find the particles that electron is made of, which is of such a high vibration that it is in the Etheric plane, which is part of the physical realm. Then we have even finer particles in the astral, then mental, and on and on.

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Exactly :)
The peeling of the onion also occurs in the none physical activities (perhaps more so due to the fluid nature of some areas) and like scientists I think that there is a need to keep that exploration window open.

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So the scientist is trying to find consciousness and he narrows it to specific areas in the body.

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And the research is also finding a broader picture of how the wider body integrates and is possibly part of some brain functions.
Some of course would say 'of course it is'. 8)

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Yet in reality, there are people, superhumans, that can retain consciousness regardless what chemicals they are fed.

Paul

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I am tempted to ask for references in order to follow up this one. Peoples resistance certainly varies for a variety of reasons.

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mick wrote:
Is there a record of the same effect when a car or cycle or train was first seen and what would they have seen, a silhouette of the unknown object or it is transparent perhaps? Smile

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To clarify: I don't think that this 'blindness' through lack of prior knowledge occurs without as you say maybe with some concurrent trauma. Even if not understood something is seen. I was asking for contemporary evidence to the contrary. :)

However I do think that there is a version of this that occurs in some none physical activities due to a lack of terms of reference on occasion.
In my own case I do sometimes experience parallel views one being the mundane attempt at matching and a more direct view of strangeness.
We have previously had discussions hereabouts regarding how this 'interface' although somewhat of an analog view can still work in an interactive manner.
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=138

Perhaps it is time for this part of the topic to be moved to a more appropriate category.

Mick,

Yes, I believe you are correct ... this topic has changed from a movie topic to that of consciousness. I started another thread if it's ok with everyone in the OBE forum titled Consciousness here :

[broken link, might not exist]. Will be in the Psychic & Spiritual if it still does.

Paul

I think this is a great movie - if it's only worth is to get people to realize the power of thought.

Movie News

FYI

May be of interest to AD folk in the UK!

Best,


Stephen

[edited] 'From John Sleeman at Humanity's team London:

An exclusive screening next weekend Saturday 18th March 18.30 hrs of What the Bleep down the Rabbit Hole the Extended Directors cut. It is being held at the Friends Meeting House, 173 Euston road, NW12BJ and is organised by Lynne McTaggart who wrote 'The Field' - see full details below.

Order direct with Lynne at her website, by phone or just turn up.

I look forward to seeing you all there.

Information on the Humanity's Team Film club will be issued shortly - this was one of the films we were trying to get hold of.

namaste John

Join us for the Exclusive UK screening of:
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What do people have against the movie?

I always read people complaining that the movie abuses quantum physics. Does it really?

Are the studies the movie sites valid? (Ice formation experiment, lowering crime in D.C. experiment)

Some of the people appearing in the interviews feel they were quoted out of context. Although the movie tries to be neutral, it puts a metaphysical framing on the subject. Several of the more straight science types objected.

The biggest problem with people in my area of Washington state have with it was it made by Ramtha followers. Ramtha is supposedly a 35000 year old spirit canneled by JZ Knight. She lives and operates her "enlightenment school" about 15 minutes from where I'm currently living. A lot of the stuff in the movie is based on something valid and then slightly twisted,much like everything "Ramtha" says. I'm positive JZ Knight is a fraud, but if you search for her on the web you can decide yourself. She believes some pretty ridicoulos stuff.

I know the Ice formation is real stuff. Search anyting on Dr. Ymotto (I may have the spelling wrong there) I've looked through his book at a bookstore once. REALLY interesting stuff.

I think the movie is making a great leap at beggining the process of uniting science and metaphysics/spirituality. It is a step being taken by other people as well like the Dalai Lama (his new book the universe in a single atom is all about this)

I don't know much about the Ramtha stuff... I would probably be against a lot of what they say but the movie doesn't have any sort of manipulation or hidden messages to try and get people to join them so I don't have a problem with it! :p

Most movies will try to put an agenda of one kind or another accross, or at least tie each scene back to the theme of the movie. I think the film could have been more cohesive since some parts did not tie into each other as well as they could have.

For me it doesn't provide enough of a factual basis to believe in what it is saying, but it certainly does provide an observable basis (much of the themes such as "I create my reality" are portrayed beautifully and are observable without the need for supporting evidence, you are the evidence!).

I personally really loved the movie. But, it is true that some of the scientists involved were not happy with the editing of their comments. Some of the scientists, on the other hand, obviously like J.Z. Knight. I was scheduled to go on a cruise with her, Dr. Emoto, and one other (can't remember which) scientist portrayed in the movie, but the cruise was canceled due to the bad handling of it by the company who put the cruise together. The scientists can't all have been uspset with the movie or wouldn't have wanted to continue the association by being a speaker alongside J.Z. Knight.

I asked my parapsychology teacher about the movie after it first came out, as he teaches some of the things portrayed in the movie. He said that there were some things that were either not true or were portrayed differently than they happened. One example is the Native Americans not being able to see the ships. He said that there are first person accounts (eye witness) that are documented that prove there was no illusion of not being able to see the ships. Regardless, he still liked the movie and agreed with our ability to create or manifest for ourselves. I don't mean to keep harping on this, but for the sake of new members, if you wish further info on the validity of the parapsychologist making these claims, he is one of the world's leading parapsychologists. You can find info on him on his website http://www.mindreader.com. Click "Enter" and then scroll down to "Loyd Auerbach, Paranormal Investigator and Author". His credentials in the field are impeccable. So, don't argue with me, argue with him. :D

Oh, and the D.C. experiement is true and backed up by various similar experiments done all over the world. Not so sure about Dr. Emoto's water photos. I've heard pros and cons to his research from both sides. Unless you are a scientist and have access to his methods, I doubt if it can be proven one way or the other. Haven't heard of anyone being able to replicate his findings, but I'm going with the belief that we can influence the energies around us with our thoughts, based on my own experiences.