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oh yeah, one thing I forgot, around the end of that last projection I saw something written somewhere about meditation in bed. This is usually where I meditate, sometimes if I do this later at night it's problematic because it makes me fall asleep, but I looked up what I saw written there and found a way to help avoid doing that which is cool.
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Had a projection a little while ago
I came out of a dream where I was trying to follow a samurai and a ninja through some strip mall.
Anyway I rolled out after that, oddly I was back in the usual place that kind of looks like my house even though I'm in massacheusetts right now. First I checked on the room anomaly which was still a clset. Then I went downstairs and a table was there that wasn't supposed to be. I thought it might have signifigance so I tried talking to it but it didn't answer and neither did anything else. I also noticed my reflection looked different then usual, I looked at it for a while and then moved on. I called my guide and he began to come but then some woman with an umbrella came up and said "William Guide, I demand you leave", to which he did leave. I went over to her was was like "Why did you make him go away? What is it you want from me? What do you want me to do?" And she said "Why don't you take a little break." I began to protest this but after that the projection ended.
I hope she didn't mean a break from projecting altogether. But at the least it looks like she wanted me to take a break from the simulations. I guess next time I project I'll just try to go do one of those things I've been meaning to do but havent been able to because of the simulations like trying to visit my freinds dream again or trying to visit a haunted place in the physical world.
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Hello, defectron.
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Anyway I rolled out after that, oddly I was back in the usual place that kind of looks like my house even though I'm in massacheusetts right now.
I'd say that confirms it is indeed an astral environment you usually encounter, not a RTZ one.
Cheers,
Oliver
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Yeah I was thinking that too, I've strongly suspected for a long time that at least most if not all were not RTZ projections, the only exceptions being a couple odd projections that I cannot verify the location of in the physical world.
Today I had two brief projections, both of these were blind.
In the first one I rolled out blind, I didn't attempt to participate in the simulation this time as the guide in that last projection said to take a break. So I decided to try jumping to my freinds house in massacheusetts I had just been visiting. I did this as I ran towards the stairs and leapt but it didn't work as I just ended up getting pulled back into my body.
Awhile later I projected out of a dream, I jumped to an area I couldn't see but the ground felt like it was made of stone, I walked a bit and felt some carpet but no one seemed to be around and that's where this one ended.
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Pretty good journey.:D Will you ask to meet Jesus again?
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Yeah when I get the chance I'm going to have to give that and a few other things another try.
I had a couple projections this morning, the first was short and unremarkable, the next one I projected to a place that looked like my old house. I went out and looked around all I really remember doing was taking down the address of one of the other houses. Most likely this was another place in the astral, but just in case I'll have to check out that address the next time I'm in the area.
In my last projection, I came out and the door was locked proably because there are various things I need to do and am in the process of doing this very moment.
I completely forgot about trying to project over to my freinds house today though.
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Had a new projection today
I came out and went downstairs, I first asked to see my guide but no one came. After that I tried asking what the simulation was but I don't think anything responded. Anyway I noticed someone who looked like my mom, but whoever or whatever it was it did't seem to react at all to me. I then went upstairs and checked the room anomaly, it wasn't a closet anymore, so it looks like I did something right in my recent efforts. Instead it looked like a small living room. I asked one piece of furniture what this was all about and a dile appeared that had several words written on it. I only remember one word which is the word "STILL" written in all caps. After that I asked for advice in sorting out my issues in trying to make more money. The words changed again, the only one that made sense was "lowloan". Maybe it meant low interest loan? The only thing I can think of I might need a loan for would be if I went through with my idea of trying to sell wholesale products. Though before that I would need to find a product I knew would sell otherwise it could be a wasted effort. Though if I do find one I'll certainly consider the option. Anyway after that the projection ended.
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Had two projections today, the first one was really short, I projected into a place that looked like some kind of basement, I began to phase through the wall and it ended.
The next projection was more interesting. I felt my legs float up so I kicked out and was in a place that looked like my old house. I went about and asked various things what this was about but they didn't feel like answering. After that I had a few ideas from one of volgerls recent journals I wanted to try out. First I tried calling my higher self but no one came. Next I decided to try manifesting something which will hopefully come my way in the physical world. I went over tot he table and held out my hand attempting to cause a wad of money to appear but nothing was happening. I then got an idea and reached into nearby envelope pulling out some moeny, I di this several times, oddly some of the bills that came out were japanese yen instead of american money. What I think may have been a dream version of my mom came by and remarked "wow were ritch now". After that I asked a vitimen container if there was some way I hadn't thought of that I could make this happen. It turned into a mini tv and said "please stand by" but right as it began to answer my question I woke up. i might try manifesting money again the next time I'm not in a simulation, hopefully this will be coming my way in the physical in the near future.
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I asked one piece of furniture what this was all about and a dile appeared that had several words written on it. I only remember one word which is the word "STILL" written in all caps.
I just wrote something about text IN CAPITAL LETTERS in dreams (projection in your case)Funny that the next thread I checked was yours ;)
I'm starting to think that recall of text in capital letters is better since it is more 'visual' or 'graphic', and perhaps we recall visuals and graphics better than text.
I don't know if this is going to be of help, but one thing I've noticed is that I recall better what I read several times, although I won't necessarily remember the text word for word. When I do that, I think I try to translate the text into pictures, feelings and impressions directly in the dream, since I know I remember better pictures and impressions. Could be worth a try next time you see text in your projections? :)
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then got an idea and reached into nearby envelope pulling out some moeny, I di this several times, oddly some of the bills that came out were japanese yen instead of american money. What I think may have been a dream version of my mom came by and remarked "wow were ritch now". After that I asked a vitimen container if there was some way I hadn't thought of that I could make this happen. It turned into a mini tv and said "please stand by" but right as it began to answer my question I woke up. i might try manifesting money again the next time I'm not in a simulation, hopefully this will be coming my way in the physical in the near future.
Maybe there are a bunch of clues here for how you can make some money.
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I just wrote something about text IN CAPITAL LETTERS in dreams (projection in your case)Funny that the next thread I checked was yours ;)
I'm starting to think that recall of text in capital letters is better since it is more 'visual' or 'graphic', and perhaps we recall visuals and graphics better than text.
I don't know if this is going to be of help, but one thing I've noticed is that I recall better what I read several times, although I won't necessarily remember the text word for word. When I do that, I think I try to translate the text into pictures, feelings and impressions directly in the dream, since I know I remember better pictures and impressions. Could be worth a try next time you see text in your projections? :)
Yeah I'll have to see if I can do that, sounds like it could be an interesting thing to try.
Anyway as for there being clues about money, it could be possible, though I'm not sure how japanese yen could factor in, might also just be thought imagery since some of the stuff I'll be printing in one of my endeavors is assciated with japan.
Though speaking of this a shaman journey I did this weekend told me to sell my shares today , but I kinda missed the boat as I shouldve sold them in the morning but didn't do it til the afternoon, had I done it in the morning I wouldve made a couple hundred dollars more before the market fell though it looks like I still made some profit off it.
But yeah I had two projections this morning
The first one was short, the only thing memorable about that one was it took alot more effort then usual to pull myself out of my body. I also felt a bit heavier then usual when hitting the floor, almost physical. That one kindof ended after that. The next one was alot more interesting.
When I came out I went intot he hallway and saw a tall asian looking tree growing in the middle of the room below, almost looked like some kind of giant bonsai. I jumped down, as soon as I touched the floor the room changed as grass replaced the carpet, I began to go over to the tree to talk to it, but the projection ended before I could.
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Just an update on a past projection, in the projection where I tried getting info on improving my financial situation and received the clue "lowloan" I believe I know what this clue is all about and how I'll get things working alot better. I'll post updates on this situation as it goes along.
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had a new projection today
I rolled out and landed on top of a magnet which hurt, I really do have magnets by the side of my bed, but they were in a slightly different place here. When I went downstairs, the place changed to be kind of like my old house. One thing I noticed in alot of my recent projections is that I've been popping into a place that looks like my old house rather then the current one, I have no idea why this is, the next time it happens I should try to find out why. I then went out into the backyard to find three people and a rock with a face chiseled into it talking in a circle. The rocks face looked like the face of boom boom mountain from adventure time as seen below but smiling
http://adventuretimewithfinnandjake...._Boom_Mountain
I went over and asked them what was with the rock, one guy explained that it wasn't really a rock I was seeing but a principle. He also said something about flat aspect ratio which is a filming term, this most likely was symbolic of something else.
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/a...-part-one.html
Anyway when they figured out I was interested in their conversation he asked me how much money I had, I figured this must be symbolic of something so I asked "can you tell how much I have?" after that the projection ended.
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Had some new projections today, I only remember the first one though.
I remember with some difficulty I sat up into some room in the astral. I immediatly noticed a smiling man standing over me who had a huge head, his head was shaped like a light bulb, his face being on the lower portion of it. I immeditaly knew this guy was one of my guides, I asked him if it was ok to ask him some questions. His response was "Not yet." I then went over and touched the side of his head, it felt like it was made of plastic covered in carpeting even though it looked real. After that I went back but I seem to recall that I came out again, I don't remember much of anything from the second time though.
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Defectron, I was wondering if you ever felt like you came from another place, like another planet, before you incarnated here? This is what makes me ask http://www.kurtleland.com/astral-pro...ne-causal-body
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That is certainly possible as when growing up I had more trouble adjusting to things then most other people had, so that could be why. There was also the vision of the alien world. Though I don't want to jump to any conclusions about that sort of thing before I get something more to go off of.
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Had a pretty interesting projection today
I came out and went over to the room anomaly, it was a closet again, I think I know what it is I gotta work through though.
Anyway I then went outside and decided to try focusing on a person again to see if I could go to them. This time instead of doing that with my freind I tried to focus on the paranormal author Nick Redfern. I hovered intot he air, this time I floated up about 2-3 times higher then when I usually try this trick and shot off. I then turned myself around so I could see where I was going and crashed into some place that looked like a salon. I blacked out for a moment and when I came to I was in a place that looked like some sort of midieaval castle. The place was quite lucid looking almost like the physical world. I had been half expecting to see Nick in the realtime zone since he should be awake by now given that I think he lives in britain but it looks like this wasn't the case. I forget how I ran into him, but we began talking about paranormal stuff. Somehow we got on the subject of the "Cormons" which is the name that the witch he encounters in his book "three men hunting monsters" uses to call the entities that haunt the earth. I mention that one of my goals is to find out how the cormons work and to replicate their abilities, since I think that the abilities demonstrated by these beings (exterting direct influence over physical reality) is something humans can do too. Nick then went off on a tagent saying that long ago his father was killed by a supernatuarl beast called the "Krem", after that it becomes a little bit fuzzy what happened, but I think Nick kind of freaked out, me and some woman I didn't recognize both helped him out of the stone castle and he seemed to calm down after that. After this the projection ended.
I think its unlikely Nicks story happened in the physical world as he no doubt would have written about something crazy like that in his books. There's a couple possibilities here
1. This wasn't actually nick
2. I met his dream self, sometimes ones mind doesn't work right in a dream and this could be an example of that happening to him
3. The most unlikely possibility is it really did happen to him and he has some secret reason never to bring it up
4. This was a version of him from a parralell world where things played out differently
I looked up the word Krem but it doesn't seem to refer to anything special.
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Today I came out and went downstairs. I had an idea to try to visit my past self to see if I could influence myself into doing anything differently and if so to se eif it would change anything. Howver when I tried making the jump nothing happened. Either I was being blocked or I needed to be in a higher body then the astral to do it.
Anyone know if time traveling can be done in the regular astral body, or do you need access tot he mental body to pull that off?
Anyway that projection pretty much ended there, i kinda recall coming out again but dont remember what happened with that.
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Hallo Defectron
I believe that I have had some type of time travel OBE in the astral/etheric body. See my journal here for the OBE titled "Magickal History Book". It is on page 3 btw. Now whether I travelled back in time in this universe, or visited another parallel universe or was in a BST, well that is something that I am unable to answer.
My (educated) guess is that time travel is much more likely in either an alternate/parallel universe or especially in a BST. Something about the "Grandfather Paradox" has always resonated true with me. Yet just about anything is possible.
Regards
Grey
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My theory is that it might be possible to overwrite a current reality using astral time travel. I wanted to test that out by talking to my past self in a dream and telling him to move something from my room and put it in another room. But for whatever reason I wasn't able to get there.
Anyway I had two projections today, the first was short and not very memorable. In the next one I came out and went to check on the room anomaly which was a closet again. I then jumped downstairs and was about to head outside to go try to do something. But then I stopped and asked a digital clock what was going on with the simulation. It uttered some unintelligable word and then displayed three words on its screen. The first word I don't remember, the second word was "lite" and the third word was "resume" I think the resume part may have meant for me to go back out and try what I was about to do, but the projection ended after that.
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Today I had at least 6 AP's, maybe more
Anyway in my first projection I came out blind but had no problem finding my way around. I checked the room anomaly which had a bunch of blankets and other stuff in it. I then went downstairs and asked various things the purpose of the simulation. I got the feeling I wasn't supposed to ask this right now though. So I went outside and tried jumping to wherever the simulation was, but went back to my body before I got there. I came back out but this time tried to go see an old freind I hadn't seen in awhile. I once again got intereupted mid jump and came back. This happened a number of different times as I tried to go to a number of different places. The last place I tried to go was my physical room, I touched down in a place that looked like my room, but on closer examination this was clearly another astral duplicate. I then knocked a bunch of stuff over for some reason and came out. I noticed some astral versions of my parent and asked them why I couldn't go anywhere. The astral version of my step dad then said I had to stay here and then made some dog noises. I tried to ask why but then went back to my body. I shouldve asked what I was supposed to do over here but didn't think to do so at the time. Next time I come out I'll have to find them and ask what it is I'm supposed to do.
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This might relate to the toher days incident, I was half asleep but then I heard what sounded like a girl making dog noises in my ear.
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I checked the room anomaly which had a bunch of blankets and other stuff in it
Maybe something else needed to be un-cover-ed first.
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Had a really amazing projection today Actually multiple projections
I came in and out a number of times, I don't remember exactly how many, most were kind of short. Oddly in many of these my body felt alot less tangible then usual.
Anyway in one of the first ones I went over to the room anomaly and took korpos suggestion to look under the blankets. Oddly what was under them was a blue bra. Here's what dream moods had to say about bras
http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdi...bol&search=bra
Anyway I continued popping an and out of my body at some point I ran into the two guides who looked like my parents. I asked them what the deal was with this simulation, I can't remember what they said it was though now. After that I asked if it was ok for me to go out. The guide who looked like my mom said she was worried that I would get into trouble if I did. I said I wouldn't so she relented and said it would be ok if they went along. Anyway I popped back into my body but then came out again. I then found the guide who looked like my mom in another room. I asked her why she was worried about me getting into trouble. In response she said something that seems odd now but didn't particularly at the time. She said that the first time I saw her I got scared and ran away. I don't ever remember this happening though. An odd paralell is that in one of my early projections some children saw me flying, got scared and ran away. Anyway I skipped over that and began to ask her some questions. I asked her if she had ever been by area fifty one. She said she hadn't and didn't really plan to and that today we would only be going to a "restaurant" I doubt she meant a restaurant literally, I wonder what that could symbolize. I then asked about shape shifting in the physical mentioning that the other guide who looked like my step dad didn't know how to do this and if she knew how. She said she did but wondered why I wanted to know. I then said it was one of the reasons why I came here in the first place. She then began to tell a very interesting story. As she did so she transformed into a cat with multicolored eyes and continued her story speaking with her mind. She said that during the 17th century, she wasn't human, she was a cat and had been in a situation where she had to learn shape shifting. I forget most of her story though. I remember that at some point I went back to my body but then came back out, after doing so she continued her story, she had changed into a very attractive woman wearing a bathrobe. I forget why but she began to sing that song "don't tell mama" from cabaret after finishing her story while dancing with me. We both then landed on the bed as she straddled over me. I ran my hands over her slipping them inside her robe, I'd never touched breasts that big and perfect before. She then took off her robe and we had sex. That was the last part of the projection I remember.
So yeah this was a very unusual projection, I wish I remembered more of my guides story and also what the simulation was about. Hopefully in a future projection we'll be able to go to wherever it was she was planning to take me.