The front line of darkness

[farewell2arms]

Suffering is created by the mind.

And yet without the mind, there would be no learning, nothing to fall into and through.

[Tutor]

[farewell2arms]

[Tutor]

[farewell2arms]

ya beat me to the read. i offer a coupla songs, as i love to do, to it in hindsight bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrLfVpu0esA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBwrX1MingU

and finally,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoAPCwn7 ... re=related

peace be with you,

tim

Thanks a lot Tim.

I feel that the reason for my suffering is because I associate more with "John" that with other people. I see things from his point of view. But when I realize I am just as much any other person I meet, I guess things will change.

[Tutor]

[farewell2arms]

why sort when you can let go...NOW. one day when you have gone, and i pray you have a long life; what on earth will you have taken with you in the going?

Yes... for there is nothing to take, and everything to have. Life is giving, in one way or another, and through surrendering I can accept the gift of giving that has been bestowed upon me. Life is grace, whether we choose to see it or not.

I have had practical troubles with surrendering. I did not know exactly how to do it. But now I can do it, I just realize that I truly know nothing of myself as I am right now.

Things will turn out all right now.

But what is language? I perceive it differently. Is it pure subjective interpretation?

And... something I suspect, but am not sure about at all. Pain is not suffering? It's just a sensation? I have heard of masters who can endure any pain. Will I still feel pain, but not percieve of it as suffering? Or will pain just dissapear, just like the fears?

[CFTraveler]

Pain is not suffering? It's just a sensation?

Pain is a sensation, and a necessary part of life. Pain is your body telling you something is not all right. Telling you to change course, to do something different. A warning.
Suffering is a decision to hold on to pain. Suffering is knowing that something will cause you pain, and doing it anyway- sometimes unconsciously. Suffering is believing that pain is necessary and choosing it. Suffering is having the choice to hold on to a past pain or letting it go, and choosing to hold on to it- sometimes for a seemingly good reason.

Suffering is attachment to pain.

.02
CF

[Korpo]

Very wise, CF, very wise.

Oliver

[farewell2arms]

Very wise, CF, very wise.

Oliver

I agree CF, that really makes sense. =)