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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    It's a good thing I write my dreams down right after waking up - nearly forgot this: I dreamt of talking on the phone with E1B for some reason. However, somebody wanted to take the phone from me while still talking. On E1B's side a female asked who he was talking to.

    Cheers,
    Oliver

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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeoneblack
    I'm quite the artist, yes? If a pencil were a piano it'd be a different matter.



    I, for one, am looking forward to your analysis. When I was running the Remote Viewing experiments it was the wrap-up that was the most fun. Can't wait.
    thanks e1b, interesting, but I need to know one VERY important thing:

    is this bird's-eye view, which means from above?
    or side profile view?

    (ps. please please please say bird's-eye, cuz then it could make some sense )
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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    Yes, the perpespective is from above, as i were sitting on it.
    Matter is only mind in an opaque condition; and all beauty is but a symbol of spirit.
    - E Hubbard

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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeoneblack
    Yes, the perpespective is from above, as i were sitting on it.
    Great.
    (you'll be surprised to see what you were perhaps actually sitting on )
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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    Quote Originally Posted by Korpo
    It's a good thing I write my dreams down right after waking up - nearly forgot this: I dreamt of talking on the phone with E1B for some reason. However, somebody wanted to take the phone from me while still talking. On E1B's side a female asked who he was talking to.

    Cheers,
    Oliver
    Huh. Maybe I called to tell you I can't find the CD with the music I was talking about on it. As a matter of fact, I only found one CD which I apparently produced just for a band member so he could learn his part. If I can figure out how to upload it I'll send it to you. If it is what I think it is I think you'll dig it. I played a part of it just a few years ago in an outdoor concert.

    And gosh darn it, I wish there WAS a female here to ask who I'm talking to. I've been feeling a little lonely lately.
    Matter is only mind in an opaque condition; and all beauty is but a symbol of spirit.
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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    ok, last guess - a man in a top hat!!!
    "We are spirits in the material world" Sting. The Police.

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    ok, last orders were made, drink up, pub is closing now.
    I'll write the analysis now, dunno if I get ready today though.
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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    Hello, E1B.

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeoneblack
    If I can figure out how to upload it I'll send it to you.
    http://www.mediafire.com/ should do the trick.

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeoneblack
    And gosh darn it, I wish there WAS a female here to ask who I'm talking to. I've been feeling a little lonely lately.
    Maybe I was talking to a luckier future you.

    Cheers,
    Oliver

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    Re: New Dream Experiment

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Templar
    ok, last guess - a man in a top hat!!!
    I've been finding all kinds of coincidences, maybe simply because I've been looking for them. Karen659 has a few images shared by others - e.g. swimming which dovetails nicely with CFTraveler's water world.

    Just a few days ago I was telling a co-worker about and idea to dress another co-worker up in a tux 1900s style (w/ a top hat) and use his Rasta-man mug for a poster quoting Thomas Mann from "Magic Mountain" elaborating in his high English the pleasures of a good cigar. He would be smoking, instead, a large doobie and, naturally, making a few emendments to Mann's siliogquy.

    Maybe we're actually going to more and more start ticking together (like the putative clocks in the clock shop).
    Matter is only mind in an opaque condition; and all beauty is but a symbol of spirit.
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    DISCLOSURE & ANALYSIS - GROUP DREAM TELEPATHY EXPERIMENT

    DISCLOSURE

    http://www.filefront.com/17161476/DreamSymbol.zip/
    password: robertbruce2010

    note again on this website the date 31 July 2010 in the details list that cannot be messed with by the uploader, it's the system default on day of upload

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    ANALYSIS - FACT SHEET / SUMMARY

    remote viewing target / dream telepathy symbol: THE SPHINX OF GIZA

    main image sent:


    run time: 14 days (2 weeks)

    objective:
    look for:
    A) direct hits, primary and secondary
    primary: SPHINX (any sphinx figure or the very Sphinx of Giza)
    secondary: PYRAMID(S), EGYPT (both elements are contained in or can be clearly derived by the sent image, that's why they are accepted as secondary direct hits)
    B) indirect hits, namely: collaterals, similarities, related symbols and associative overlays. Examples:
    cultures similar to Egypt, pyramidal shapes, lions or any feline predators / big cats, desert, Egypt mythology/religion, Egypt/ancient art, River Nile, any other ancient monuments and sculptures, phantasy hybrids, other mythological hybrids (centaurs, mermaids, medusas, etc.), ancient clothing/attire, sculptures, tombs, mummies, etc.

    analysis method: qualitative (not quantitiative), relevant participant quotes isolated, with notes beneath it giving my thoughts, research, suggestions, deductions and associative interpretations

    results:
    A) failed, no direct quote mentioning SPHINX, PYRAMID(S) or EGYPT contained in the dreamer accounts, nor by any guesses made as conclusions from the body of elements
    B) successful, very interesting results with indirect elements and many aspects alluding to all of the 3 direct (primary and secondary) hits of category A, including a very close miss with the mentioning of another famous archaic stone-face sculpture and an impressive 'dream remote viewing' sketch. See detailed analysis below

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    DETAILED ANALYSIS

    Notes:
    note 1: quotes are not in order of relevance but in chronological order as I put them there, just one beneath the other, when relevant dreams came in and were documented
    note 2: as it is a lot to write, I mainly did this with shorthand notes and headwords; in other words: punctuation and syntax/grammar mainly abrogated - I hope you don't mind, I think it's still clear enough
    note 3: take it all with a grain of salt, sometimes I use a lot of the art of „creative associative interpretation“, but we always said we want to have fun, don't we?

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    Neil:

    „it is an island, surrounded by seas, beautiful blue water. i come across a library inside, feels like a university/learning place. i see ancient books, legends from ancient civilisations.“


    „ANCIENT CIVILISATIONS“ is a hit for pre-historic Egypt in general. Egypt is counted among the great ancient civilisations, some historians consider it the cradle of modern civilisation (next to Mesopotamia), personally, I'm not so sure about this, due to some "legends" of even more "ancient" (advanced) civilisations that might have influenced them or been partly their ancestors.

    on first view the connection to „library“ and „water“ does not fit, but a short excursion to historical / archeological and/or „Akashic" knowledge - including the "legends" - will show: it actually could!

    WATER:

    the Giza plateau is today of course not an island and never was. However, in very ancient times, many thousand years BC, the river Nile flowed very near to it, past the pyramids, so the Giza site was a river bank, and even in our recent history there was still water near it before they built big cities and dams near it, as the first pic documents:



    and this is how it might have looked in pre-dynastic and pre-historic times, many thousands of years ago:



    Some unorthodox „daring“ researchers with background in engineering (e.g. Kunkel or Waldhauser) even have drawn up theories of an even closer connection between water and the pyramids, esp. the Great Pyramid, the interior design of which looks like a technical building anyway. To them it was sth like water power stations or ramps or pumps, so there is a water-pyramid-giza-plateau association possible, here are website examples of this very interesting theory, worthy for (open-minded non-dogmatic) readers, and they even built miniature models of it that worked!:

    http://sentinelkennels.com/Research_Article_V41.html

    http://www.linux-host.org/energy/epump.html

    http://www.linux-host.org/energy/ebuilt.html

    http://www.buch-der-synergie.de/archiv/ ... gesamt.pdf

    http://www.atlaspub.20m.com/giza/pg5.htm

    later I noticed that one of CFTs dreams about a specific building with water pools might contain a connection to this kind of „water machine house“ too, but as there are no further indications as to my symbol, so the connection is very vague indeed, anyway, here is the short passage:

    CFTraveler:

    „something about different pools needing to be filled, and someone filling them by compartments on the inside making it impossible for people to swim in them.“


    viewtopic.php?f=19&t=17866&start=180#p134456

    in the model, there are indeed many rooms and compartments with water being pumped and moved along / in and out, and was surely not built for the (pre-)Egyptian folks to be swimming in them



    LIBRARY / PLACE OF LEARNING / ANCIENT BOOKS:

    The books / library aspect might refer to an esoteric legend that there's an old library („Hall Of Records“) hidden in a cavity beneath the Sphinx (Atlantis legend, as referenced by E. Cacey) or anywhere in the underground labyrinths of the Giza plateau, which is in the legend said to be vast and to have been a city of its own with many halls, water channels .. and possibly with own „centres of learning“ including libraries.

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    Neil:

    „a many layered pedestrian city, lots of alleys, and stairways going from streets to courtyards and rooftops. (...) it's a bit like that famous Escher picture, you know, the one with the impossible stairs?
    actually, i just looked it up, and the image i'm thinking about is called ASCENDING AND DESCENDING."


    with a little fanciful and wilful interpretation, there's a slight archetypical pyramid shape of the „city“ in the picture, it gets thinner and peaked from bottom to the top:



    people moving around it might remind one of pictures of the Egyptians on ramps around the structure building the great pyramid (although it is not sure how exactly they built it, for some unorthodox researchers not even WHO built it)

    a pyramid's structure is „multi-layered“ too

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    Neil:

    „a triangle frame made of wood. thru the frame i see a man sitting. the background is white.
    then the background changes to a room with four triangular windows behind the man, and the walls are covered in wood paneling.
    triangle?“


    now ... note three important facts and features about the background windows:

    * TRIANGULAR SHAPE
    * EQUALLY SHAPED (Neil doesn't mention it but it is my logical assumption)
    * THERE'S FOUR OF THEM

    now let's take these four equally shaped triangles, and fold them around the man, let the man sit in the middle of a square base on the ground, so we put one of the identically shaped triangles on each side of the square base, then we let them fall onto each other towards the man - resulting in a kind of tent around the man.

    Now the million dollar question: what geometrical form do we get?

    Exactly...



    ...a standard pyramid shape.

    So the 4 triangular windows represent the pyramid's 4 sides - „unfolded“ view

    who's the man? two possibilties, or even both - by change of perspective:

    1) the man inside the „frame“ might be the dreamer himself sitting in the (unfolded) pyramid, looking outwards through that one frame

    2) the man seen „through“ the triangular shape (one side / window) of the pyramd is the visual the dreamer gets by looking out from the pyramid's side/„window“ onto ... yes, the Sphinx! so the „sitting“ man is in fact the (quote Wiki „recumbent feline with a human head“

    white background behind the man/sphinx could represant the reflections of the sand produced by a glaring desert sun during the day

    wood panels cannot be explained, but they may hint to the multi-“layered“ architecture of the pyramid again

    last not least: a triangle - although with the top flattened or cut off a bit (which actually makes it rather a symmetrical trapezoid) - might also represent a sphinx's head at frontal view:



    top flattened or cut off ... um ... wait a moment ... that reminds me of two things

    first, the Central/South American pyramids have mostly flat tops, too

    second, the next dream ...

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    eyeoneblack:

    „I take a young man's head (is it still attached to the body?, not sure) and place it on a table ... I slice the top of his head off. ... The head collapses a little when the top is removed. ....“


    a young man's head - well, the Sphinx actually HAS / IS A YOUNG MAN'S HEAD (purportedly a pharao's or deity's - although who knows? it also could be a woman, see below!)

    ... and it IS cut off - well, in a way ...

    it is „cut off“ in the production process that involves taking the human head only and „sticking“ it onto top of the body of an animal (cat/lion) to create the artistic image of a mythological hybrid figure

    the table (which is then not of further interest in the dream) stands for the sphinx's animal body, a normal table has four legs - like a cat/lion or any feline animal.

    the head gets itself cut and so further damaged (top removed) - and the analogy still holds, in two ways:

    first, the Sphinx is of course victim of decomposition, decay and erosion through the millenia, and it „lost“ its famous nose (and a beard possibly), so it got - as a well-known matter of fact - further damaged and other elements of it have fallen (or been broken/cut?) off, actually it was even in a worse state in many centuries but got restored many times in different epochs, plus: all the juice and stuff getting out of it might represent the pieces falling off, the decay and erosion, too.

    second, as said above, the CUT-OFF TOP of the head might furthermore remind us of the Sphinx's (almost-triangular / trapezoid) face in frontal view, of which one might asume that - next to nose and a possible beard - it has lost lots of his/her top head in the course of history. Another of many facts notoriously ignored by orthodox mainstream science, but not by all:



    http://www.robertschoch.net/Egyptian%20 ... l%20CT.htm

    Schoch is one of the geologists that claims that the Sphinx's body is much older than being carved in Egyptian Dynastic times, the head was worked on quite often, and in many different eras (maybe to adjust it to the rulers?). Besides, he and other scholars even hypothesize that the 'original' Sphinx used to have a lion's head deep down in pre-historic times. So it wasn't a hybrid at all. Who knows? I think they have a point:
    „In fact, if you look at the current Great Sphinx you may notice that the head is actually too small for the body. It is clear to me that the current head is not the original head. The original head would have become severely weathered and eroded. It was later re-carved, during dynastic times, and in the re-carving it naturally became smaller. Thus, the head of the Great Sphinx is not the original head. In fact, the Sphinx may not have originally been a sphinx at all. Perhaps it was a male lion.“ - R. Schoch
    http://www.robertschoch.com/sphinxcontent.html



    one more thing: the different colours you saw (in layers?) on cutting the head up, couldn't the colours also represent a typical Egyptian layered/striped head-wear? needless to say the Sphinx also has one (no colours of course)



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    eyeoneblack:

    „I receive a bride in an arranged marriage from India. She is young and quite beautiful. Her skin is the color of a well-roasted peanut and I am totally fetched with her.“


    a beautiful bride from India, still far away from Egypt, but from the view of the „common Western man“ both India and Egypt can be associated with the magic and the touch of exotic, oriental and ancient civilisations

    „In another dream I had a white crocodile with a white snake for a tongue.“

    besides the fact that for some people crocodiles alone bear an associative value to the River Nile - and thus Egypt - it is most of all a very strong allusion to Egypt mythology!

    both kinds of animals revered by the Egyptians, plus: we have hybrid gods, half-human/half-animal or an animal crossover

    human/snakes and human/crocs hybrids often were deities for the Egyptians, for example Sebek and Wadjet:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_God

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadjet

    so, the „crossover element“ as mythological human/animal-intermix is present again, human body with animal head - a famous motif used in abundance in old Greece and Egypt (most famous of them is actually the jackal-headed Horus or the ibis-headed Thoth)

    Wadjet sometimes is rendered with lion head, snake top and and human body (second pic) which makes her a "tribrid", Sebek is a hybrid - both are animal heads with human body. the Sphinx has an animal body with human head.

    But how about a combination of snake (tongue) and croc? Animal hybrid only? And Egypt? Yes, that can be done!

    e1b, are you into toys / action figures? I googled for a croc with a snake tongue and got this .. and even more ! ... there's also a clear a connection to Ancient mythological Egypt again with this „Age Of Pharaos“-series: it is meant to be the Crocodile God „Sobek/Sebek“ again - this time with a snake tongue:

    http://www.spawn.com/TOYS/product.aspx?product=3451



    of course, the snake tongue was a fanciful gimmick added by the toy producers to make the figure even more gruesome, but that shall not bother us

    question to e1b:
    maybe you saw this figure once and your memory or subconscious stored it away under the label Egypt mythology?
    or maybe (beware: Esoteric Thinking) the phantasy figure „Egyption Crocodile God with Snake Tongue“ is stored in the Astral too, and you got it from „there“?

    Well guys, and if you think that's all and it can't get any weirder .. beware ... it does!
    how about combining snakes with WHITE crocodiles and again relate it all to Egypt mythology?

    I found this:

    [aside note: concededly, this one is a bit of a dubious site, cuz the findings and artifacts are said to be from Virginia! Of course, old out-of-place unexplainable artifacts (plus the many astounding megalith buildings), so called OO-parts, are found everywhere in the world. There are theories and legends of an ancient advanced technology civilisation whose downfall is hard to trace (or not wanted to be traced by some orthodox researchers). However, some links from this site are to a Creationist's website it seems, so caution is advised. Moreover, he gives no credentials about himself or any research organisation, it is just the (arte)facts listed by topic. It could all be a fraud or hoax, let's not get carried away and remain skeptical. On the other hand, we know these legends are not the sole field of Biblical Creationism, but rather the stuff of esoteric legends, theosophical theories, the famous Platonic Atlantis and diverse flood myths. They all are dealing with supposed old advanced civilisations (Atlantis, Mu) too. And many claims about these artifacts are valid in my view. Just the reminder again that we want to have fun, connecting symbols, and thus take what's out there, even if it is from „renegade“ historical theories, so let's take it with a grain of salt, move on and go the whole way now.. ]

    http://www.pangeawv.com/egyptianorigins1.html

    „Stand the head of the Crocodile upright and you have THE WHITE CROWN OF EGYPT (...) The Atef Crown also has it's origins in the WHITE CROCODILE. The jaw of the Crocodile creates a COBRA that comes up the sides of the jaw area which are the origins of the symbols on the side of the WHITE CROWN.“

    actually, according to orthodox Egyptology, the part of the Cobra was supposed to be taken by Ostrich feathers, no info if the crown itself was supposed to be of a croc-head

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atef



    so here we have it finally all together with this white „Egyptian Crown“:
    Egypt, white crocs and snakes (not as tongue though).

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    Beekeeper:

    „I look at one and she has a hideously long and square jaw. I could say like "the Elephant Man" but what first comes to mind when I wake to write it down is an Easter Island head.“


    The last 3 words EASTER ISLAND HEAD almost knocked me off my chair.

    So much parallels between this and the dream target. And now, ladies and gentlemen, the website "harddecision" asks us to take sides - we have the ultimate competition now:




    Just some obvious Moai's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moai) parallels to the Sphinx :

    - ancient / pre-historic monument and cultural artefact, like the sphinx
    - huge stone carving / sculpture, like the sphinx
    - from an ancient civilisaton, like the sphinx
    - still shrouded in mystery, actually both, because ...
    - myths & legends attribute the artifacts to descendants from Atlantis or any other lost civilisation, these survivors of that cataclysm (about >10.000 BC) are also said to have gone to prehistoric area of the later Egypt
    - focus is mainly on the stone „head/face“ aspect, like the sphinx
    - plus: some moais are/have almost „heads only“, the sphinx was over many centuries buried deep in the sand with just the head and neck sticking out (compare picture from 1867 below)
    - with a large prominent jaw like the now beardless Sphinx
    - not certainly known who really created it - and when (like the sphinx who is said by unorthodox researchers, esp. geologists, to be much older than traditional egyptology wants to see it fixed according to their dogma)
    - of cultural and archeological artifacts both are among the most famous „cult“ objects for tourists
    - the website harddecision.com (which I did not know before finding it by google when researching this) makes a direct duel-like comparison of the two (see pic above) ... wow, if that doesn't do the rest what else?

    compare visuals, esp. the profiles:



    Of course, it should be noted that the Sphinx's jaw is not THAT ugly and long, but still the many similarities outweigh it all.

    This is a „near hit / close miss“. No interpretation needed anymore. Amazing.

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    eyeoneblack:

    „sandy color and something about electricity/source of energy/earth/ground(ing)“


    sandy colour --> sand --> desert --> Egypt

    electricity / source of energy / grounding --> electricity from the ground (meaning earth -- meaning sand covered desert earth?)?

    interesting association again!

    there is of course another alternative theory about the Great Pyramid (and even more daring than the water pump station!) that deals with the technical conversion of seismic vibrations (thus earth energy) gathered by pyramidal structures, via some other technological gadgets into ... electricity

    Tesla or Dunn are names to be mentioned:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/13030581/Tesla-and-pyramid

    http://www.gizapower.com/

    http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/ ... er/Osiria/

    quote from last website:

    „The first and most important part of the process is the tapping of earth's limitless supply of seismic energy, which creates the majority of the power plant's power. The Great Pyramid, as many researchers have discovered, was built with a degree of architectural precision that is unmatched even today. The perfectly squared base, oriented perfectly towards the four cardinal directions, is the aspect of the building that is perhaps the most commented-upon feature of the pyramid. What is less well known is the fact that the pyramid is not perfectly flat on the bottom, as one might expect. Instead, it is built upon an outcropping of limestone, the first few courses of stone built around the mound and later covering over it. This is important, as we shall see.
    Dunn believes that the Great Pyramid was designed to be what is called a "coupled oscillator" with the Earth. A coupled oscillator is a device that is designed to allow the vibratory energy of one vibrating object to be picked up by a connected object so as to transfer the vibratory energy from the first object to the second object — in this case, from the Earth to the Great Pyramid. This is why the pyramid was not built upon a flat surface, but incorporates part of the Earth into its superstructure — the earth is effectively "coupled" with the Great Pyramid, allowing Earth's natural tectonic vibrations to easily pass into the pyramid. As Dunn explains, "Covering a large land area, the Great Pyramid is, in fact, in harmonic resonance with the vibration of the Earth — a structure that could act as an acoustical horn for collecting, channeling, and/or focusing terrestrial vibration."


    one more thought on these 'crazy' (?) theories (water station, electrical power plant):
    I have read some material about these fascinating alternative / esoteric history topics (pre-Dynastic Egypt, Atlantis, Lemuria, etc) a while ago. I might have sent these ideas and concepts along with the image subconciously, that's another explanation next to a general direct Akashic information download by the dreamer.

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    Beekeeper:

    „There's also the similarity of potentially dark skin/exotic origins. The girls in my sitcom were African American, Richard's was Indian.“


    not a new dream but another important addition (African American / Black girls, compared to Richards darker-skinned Indian girls) and a good guess. „EXOTIC ORIGIN“ was my same conclusion after e1b's first mentioning of the Indian bride with regard to possible connections to „my“ Egyptian woman/man/lion/cat sculpture.

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    eyeoneblack:

    „her upper lip was starting to protrude like too much of injections that women are getting to get the pouty look (the area beneath the nose was starting to curl up) and under the nose a dark line of a black moustache seemed to be forming.“


    looked at least a bit like this?



    most parts of the Sphinx' face are heavily decayed and decaying, also the area above the mouth (of course, since the nose is lost, we cannot say under the nose)

    the mouth itself is still sufficiently recognizable, and it has indeed some „POUTY lips“, which also indicates - like other facial features analysed by experts - traces of AFRICAN („black“) ORIGIN, orthodox Egyptology still does not like this association, but it is a fact more and more confirmed by a lot of anthropologists and ethnologists

    depending on the way shadows are falling, one might detect a moustache above the mouth, at least with a little fancy

    however, it must be noted in all fairness and to remain truthful, that the Sphinx has (due to ethnological origin) a more protuding jaw than upper mouth part. again, have a look here at Schoch's analysis, if you are interested:

    http://www.robertschoch.net/Egyptian%20 ... l%20CT.htm

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    Mishell:

    „I dreamed about a dark skinned man this week.“


    the exotic person / dark skin topic continues

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    Mishell

    „There were lots of Sesame Street people there.“


    Question: what are Sesame street people? Answer: they are Muppets.

    Question: What are Muppets? Answer (copied from Wikipedia, bolds mine):
    „Muppets may represent humans, anthropomorphic animals, realistic animals, robots, anthropomorphic objects, extraterrestrial creatures, mythical beings or other unidentified, newly imagined creatures, monsters, or abstract characters.“

    so they are mostly „anthropomorphic“ (= human-like, humanised, human-shaped) animal puppets, which means they are animals (e.g. frog Kermit, pig Miss Piggy) in a „humanized“ bipedal body talking like and behaving like humans, some are also mythical beings

    so we can easily discover another „hybrid“ aspect again, note again: the sphinx is a hybrid (human-lion) = anthropomorphic animal and a kind of mythical being as well.

    “It’s been 500 years!”

    this reference to old times or long lasting periods into the past is, concededly, a weak connection, but it is one.

    well, if you add another 0 to the number 500, then you could have almost the „offical“ age of the Sphinx by orthodox and conservative Eyptology, which attributes the Sphinx's beginning life-span to pharao Khafre's age

    ( However, als already mentioned above, it might be older, much older. For anyone interested:
    http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf
    http://www.robertschoch.com/articles/sc ... ne2009.pdf
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archi ... sphinx.pdf)

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    Beekeeper:

    „the dream symbol is a tribal mask of some kind“


    http://www.google.com.au/images?hl=en&b ... =&gs_rfai=
    http://www.google.com.au/images?um=1&hl ... a&gs_rfai=

    „TRIBAL / AFRICAN MASK“ is a good guess. Of course one can view the Sphinx' face as a kind of mask (with african origin!) too. The association between a tribal mask and the ancient/pre-historic stone face sculptures (maoi, sphinxes) is more than obvious to make. Some of the masks (see links given by Beek) even look a bit sphinx-like.

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    eyeoneblack:

    „Ceasar salad is made with romaine lettuce - is there something Roman to the Volgerle's symbol?“


    well, again: not directly, but indirectly: of course!

    Caesar and the Romans occupied and partly ruled Egypt, Caesar purportedly had something going on with beautiful Cleopatra then - at least in the realm of literary and phantasy romance. Well, we all know the more or less historic stuff that we learned in school and history books and that even Hollywood adapted for its movies.

    moreover the Sphinx was a cultural icon also for the Romans

    "When Rome ruled Egypt the Sphinx was stamped on coins: Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, Hadrian, and Domitian minted Sphinxes. Augustus briefly used a signet ring engraved with a Sphinx to sign his letters and edicts."

    http://books.google.de/books?id=LfZMEGA ... nx&f=false

    there are also literary and drama (playwriting) connections between Caesar, Cleo and the Sphinx.
    maybe you read or saw this play once?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_and ... %28play%29

    „Act I opens with Cleopatra sleeping between the paws of a Sphinx. Caesar, wandering lonely in the desert night, comes upon the sphinx and speaks to it profoundly.“

    So it's a good indirect hit and valid association made, even though the truly incidental appearance via a type of salad waiting to be served (which hasn't anything further to do with the main dream) is indeed a bit funny.
    On the other hand, exactly your filtering out this trivial side-event of your heavy motorcycle dream and relating it to my symbol is more than remarkable. but how about the motorcycle dream before it anyway? let's have a look:

    „The bike is like a chopper with a long extension to the front wheel, but it's not a wheel. the image of it is very vivid and I just took some time to sketch it. There seems to be something significant about it in my imagination.
    The bike is of very heavy construction and the extension to the front 'wheel' is like 8 feet long and made of 3" pipe or more and the 'engine' is likewise massive. Rather than a wheel, however, there was a vacuum sweeper casing (like the big chrome one Grandma had) and I think there were wheels inside it. It was cast iron though.
    The 'engine' was so large one couldn't really straddle it and it was enclosed - like a huge egg. The bike was two-tone, light gray and pastel green.“


    The description of the gigantic motorcycle too huge to straddle it, is also interesting.

    a motorcycle outline / rough shape might even resemble a bit that of a sphinx in profile. the hugeness and impracticability to really mount and drive it might also hint to the fact that it is maybe not really a motorcycle at all. the wheels inside in the enclosure might look like the Sphinx' legs when in its typical lying position?

    after e1b's aerial view rough sketch, it makes sense to compare it to the Sphinx, also in bird's-eye view:





    I used a little graphics program to superimpose the objects (not really professionally looking, I know) with e1bs sketch stretched and hence thinned just a tiny little bit to fit the length of the other picture better, but it does not change the overall outcome::



    and behold: the objects COINCIDE ALMOST PERFECTLY! (note that remote viewing sketches are always only very "sketchy" and purley schematic renderings of an object or an entire scene/environment)

    just take a look at the big "tail" / "bottom", the relatively thin and long body getting a bit broader upwards to the "shoulders", the round "egg"/"head", the "wings" coming from it at each side might represent the Egyptian "headwear". alternatively, it is the "paws", but the "paws" could also be represented by the "open-circle / bent lines" going outfrom the "head/egg" (another possibilty: the "curved lines" already insinuate and enclose the "sanctuary" before the Sphinx- which makes the "side-wings" the "paws" again)

    e1b, it might be that you actually wanted to straddle the Sphinx and take this poor ol' lazy lion out for a ride, doesn't surprise me that it actually didn't want to move at all

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    Neil:

    „the sand gave way to a space underneath...void. (...) strange that there was nothing under the sand. not a hole in the ground or anything...just nothing. not space either. just a sense of nothing. it wasn't scary either. just...inconvenient.“


    so it is SAND again, and a VOID or EMPTINESS under it, and it causes „inconvenience“ ...

    a „void“ under the sand might symbolise the fact that the Giza plateau (and Egypt in general) still bears many „underground“ secrets to be found, secrets and „knowledge voids“ might also be, as you say, „inconvenient“

    so the void possibly just symbolises the „unknown“ (still buried under the sand, in the ground/earth)

    or maybe the void under the sand even refers more literally to the „holes“ where we could find many archeological artefacts. Edgar Cacey said there was a CAVITY under the Sphinx, where we also find many more secret corridors, causeways, in the surroundings.

    It was confrmed many times by different groups of independent researchers via radar / sonar etc. and some archeological drillings that there are indeed many cavities still to be examined. I think that Zahi Hawass (quote: 'there is absolutely nothing under the sphinx') isn't telling us the truth anyway.

    „During the seismic studies we also discovered clear evidence of a cavity or chamber under the left paw of the Sphinx. For what it is worth, some have suggested to me that this may be a "Hall of Records" (at the time I was not aware of Edgar Cayce's predictions along these lines). Additionally, we found some lesser (and previously known) cavities under and around the Sphinx, and the data also indicates that there may be a tunnel-like feature running the length of the body.“ - R. Schoch
    http://www.robertschoch.com/sphinxcontent.html

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    eyeoneblack:

    "the landscape is arid and flat"


    like Egypt

    "two heads that are slick representations of him but with black shiny hair like my laptop. His face is a porcelin white and his upper lip is curled up. Two hi-tech versions of his head looking at each other like one looking in a mirror."

    so again, a "head only" representation of a person, plus: a curled up upper lip.
    two faces facing each other, well, it's not quite like the sphinx pairs in some hieroglyphic representations, who look in different directions, but at least, it is two:



    however, the Liberty Memorial in Kansas has two Sphinxes facing each other, although they are veiled, but that exactly makes them appear even "slicker", much more than the original decayed and eroded Sphinx, and in broad daylight they shine in (almost porcelaine) white



    ever been there or seen pictures of them?

    "The lips on the head don't move and it makes no facial expressions, we just hear him talk to us."

    another aspect of a rather rigid and immobile "stone" sculpture, same applies to the horse:

    "a horse that talks (...) but the voice doesn't come from the horse, like the head, we just hear her."


    and of course, we have another talking animal - another anthropomorphism (grrr.. how I dislike to write this word, makes knots in my fingers on the keyboard )

    "latest and greatest fur coat (...) It is the buff/sandy color I've mentioned before"

    a fur hints to an animal. sandy colour might again refer to the desert sand as before, or to the Giza Sphinx itself, it has a sandy colour on many daylight pics

    "then I notice a humongous snake. (...) Funny, his nose is kind of mammal like, dog like? not snake like really. He’s a ruddy brown/black. I poke him but he doesn’t attack or retreat."

    another animal hybrid featuring here (dog/snake)

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    CONCLUSION


    The experiment failed in terms of Category A) since no direct hits (SPHINX, EGYPT, PYRAMIDS) were made. A DIRECT HIT for me really would be the "LITERAL MENTION" of the words "sphinx", "Egpyt" or "pryramid(s)" in the dreamers' accounts - which did not take place. Nevertheless, that does not lead me to a negative overall conclusion because Category B) has too many impressive indirect/almost hits and indications as to the above-mentioned 'direct target triad' that cannot be dismissed as pure accident.

    The question (which can only be answerd by the dreamers individually) is, how likely is it that in the course of 14 days of my sending the dream symbol/target (or: how frequently at all) do you dream of elements such as e.g.: mythologically relevant snake-tongued white crocs, unfolded pyramid / triangle shapes, morphed and morphing stone faces, archeological artifacts (Eastern Island), exotic faces and persons, ancient civilisations, Romans, anthropomorphical animals (puppets, hybrids), sandy environments giving away (secrets) beneath your feet, etc....
    (I would never dream of these things as I remember so far, and I am recording dreams for a bit more than a year now, but every person's dream world is a bit differernt of course, I admit mine is not really vivid regarding these elements. Some have more vivid dreams, so every dreamer must answer this question for him/herself)

    Although I did not want to give a quantitative assessment (which isn't possible anyway), I would again, like before, rate the result for myself in estimated percentage probabilty.

    I would say after all, the likeliness that dream telepathy took place, with regard to the body of evidence constituted by the many Category B elements, amounts for me to approx.: 70-80% (--> 75%)

    For those who think it's too conservative or cautious: I don't want that we delude ourselves. We should stay open-mindedly skeptical and never 'over-interpret' the results and make them fit too much because we would WISH them to be. Yes, this experiment run yielded strong results in Category B, but we must not forget that no direct hit was made, which is still the prime target of a dream experiment. Anyway, 75% is a great number still.
    For those who think it's still too optimistic and high: C'mon, let us have our fun, okay?

    To sum up, it is a smashing result!

    Dear Dreamonauts: Congrats, you have really performed outstandingly well! I'm impressed.

    (dreamgroup celebrates: )

    I'm out of here for the time being, it was fun but nevertheless now it's me who needs a break from this exercise. Of course, I will once in a while read in this thread and I am now also curious to read your impressions and comments on this result, should you have any. Maybe there is even more facts overlooked by me or there's sth relevant you might have dreamt in any relation to the target and forgotten to tell or just now comes to your mind?

    All the best wishes & see yah soon (in my dreams? ),
    Volgerle
    This collector of useless clutter.

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