Re: Significance of Kundalini Awakening
Originally Posted by
farewell2arms
varying descriptions of kundalini awakening being described ..."evolutionary mechanism of consciousness". But these are merely effects. My way of doing....I have realizations...I would conclude that...my question is... why is the effect of kundalini awakening significant or even neccessary? How is growth before different from growth afterwards? Isn't it still... just growth? And what is the evolutionary seed? Why is it needed when evolution already takes place? Cheers, John
Kundalini may have occurred without awareness of the symptoms. Subtle flames might occur in dreamstate just as some feel harsh growing pains in the bones and joints and others endure no pain, that they are conscious of at least, because of the body's natural mechanism to grow more during the night.
But I am confident it is not possible to expand the consciousness without kundalini . Kundalini is the rushing of energies into the body which affect a dramatic change in the consciousness and which manifests new energy centres affording greater sidhi strength and new sidhi powers.
If a magician has believed their consciousness to be expanded but is not aware or having a kundalini event then either the magician has not noticed their symptoms for any of a variety of reasons or their expansion of consciousness has not been significant.
Any human can grow but without development of the human energy body, which does not occur without kundalini, the consciousness can not expand.The energy body centres manifest with use and flow . Kundalini is the major change in flow . It is like the gear shift of the car moving up the engine to work at a higher level.
The spiritual evolution that has been affected by kundalini has caused humanity to slowly raise its consciousness to fly universally , to hear and see the eternal teaching spirits , to think globally and to feel with greater compassion. One can contemplate but without clairvoyance , clairaudience and projection , the magician can not access the divine curriculum and attain unio mystica. And humanity requires development in the body , mind, soul and spirit. We are in a time that bears witness to many spiritually retarded leaders. It is appalling. We need more awakening not more fattening selfishness. Too many are obese and asleep.
Originally Posted by
farewell2arms
Originally Posted by
CFTraveler
I don't know that it is needed- some people get them, some don't. I think this is just something that happens, although it can be made to happen- like a siddhi, sort of.
I kinda imagine it like every person is a glass of water. During pre-kundalini years, we are filling up the glass with water. Then, when the water overflows from the glasss, the awakening happens. I have no idea why I would use that model though.
Does kundalini awaken when you reach samadhi? Is this the actual event of releasing yourself from samsara?
Reaching Samadhi will not release one from Samsara. If one was truly enlightened they would not want to leave the wheel of life while others still suffer. And if they chose to do so they would not truly be enlightened.They would take more time between incarnations and they would engage in the spiritual enlightenment of humanity through attunements, dreamstate lessons and through teaching as a cosmic spirit.
Originally Posted by
farewell2arms
Originally Posted by
Korpo
Just my personal take: Kundalini has become a highly charged term, a samskara of its own. I mean, people get all obsessed by the ideas they attach to it, they think they need it, they develop expectations of what will happen, there will be salvation myths, people will think it is a short cut, it will lead to enlightenment, it has to happen like this, it's dangerous, etc. The usual hype.I believe that most of the issue is a non-issue. Staying grounded, trying to learn the many different lessons and acting in responsible ways matter more to me. Whatever happens, happens.
Thats basically my approach to it aswell.
But what interests me is that there's supposed to be some event (the actual awakening) that marks something though, and I'm trying to figure out what it marks, and why the event takes place at all.
The phobias are cyberhype. The importance of this treasure will be appreciated once it occurs.
Originally Posted by
Aunt Clair
I believe that expansion of consicousness will not occur without kundalini awakening and that the spirit and soul evolve somewhat with each K event but that the path is infinite and eternal.
That makes a lot of sense. But then I would argue that the awakening can be very different from individual to individual, barely noticeable, and that we all have and active K to some extent, not just the people who claim to be "realized" or had an awakening with the well described symptoms. I have since I started on this journey had a growth in consciousness, and I have certainly not experienced anything like what’s been described by various sources as an awakening.From a more metaphysical perspective, if we assume that everything is consciousness, then perhaps kundalini would be the force removing the layers and filters that block our perception of ourselves as Source. The very force of life itself as evolution, and every step we take towards source would mean an activation of kundalini energies to some extent. But the K effects described such as "awakening" or Uraeus exist. I suppose they are markings of important milestones, but not to be aspired for in and of their own, as they are simply just effects of cultivating consciousness. Am I making sense? John
I emphatically disagree. For the unaware muggle sort of human that could be considered acceptable because they do not know any better but once a human enters a metaphysical path to have a what ever happens , happens "comme ci comme ça"attitude does not make sense. It is like giving up or "sour grapes". It is the purpose of life and why would one that is aware ignore this ? To grow physically requires no thought or effort but to grow magically, metaphysically,and spiritually requires much effort. It will not occur without discipline and dedication.
Originally Posted by
farewell2arms
Originally Posted by
Jananz
Kundalini awakening is analogous to falling in love. We have the potential for love and generally love to a degree prior to "falling in love" romantically. But the love chemistry prior to romantic initiation is generally mild and ongoing. But when we “fall in love†the love chemistry becomes acute and extreme and follows a somewhat predictable sequence of chemical cascade over the course of the love affair.
I would disagree with your analogy as I consider "the potential" for growth towards love in reality is equal for all who seeks enlightenment, and does not dependent on chemistry settings in the brain. Why? Because there are no restrictions on growth towards love and towards Source, there is no end, so there can be no potential for it, since it implies measurement.
Of course it implies measurement .There is a predictable continuum of major K events these can not occur in any other sequence. The energy centres increase in number and size for example ,this is quantifiable and measurable .
Kundalini is similar...in that we are always lit with life energy but during an awakening the organs and chemistry of consciousness are greatly amplified, and it is a love affair with the whole cosmos that occurs, which is many times more exaggerated, extreme and deeper than any human love affair. Kundalini awakening is an amplification of being human, such that more of our senses, sensitivity and sentience comes online. With a kundalini awakening we have the potential to become more human and more ourselves, and experience a wider, larger life than we could possibly imagine.
I agree.
Well, it's only natural to want to grow towards love, after all. Though I still do not grasp why some people seem to have powerful energetic phenomenons as triggers for the events, and some others (like me) hardly notice any triggers. My body matrix keeps filtering out stuff though, but I would never have considered that I have an active kundalini from any of the information sources that I've read. But I suppose it's not really that important since its just a name and a label, what is happening is happening and that's really it.Take care! // F2A
One might say the same thing about not having their first kiss ,when their siblings and peers had had theirs.
I have a theory, last night there was an expression that made me understand that the kundalini-related phenomena are as much illusion as everything else. It is merely an effect that we prescribe certain things with our beliefs surrounding it, and thus we can make it good or bad, I suppose.It shouldn’t be special as it’s as much part of this world as everything else. It’s not more “me†than anything else.
The entire theme of this thread seems to be your looking for acceptance to just give up your soul's natural thirst for ascension and your need to reconcile this by the confirmation of peers. But that would be a disservice and an untruth. So you have had some awakening? Fantastic! Continue . Do not accept complacency and give up.
I mean, it's not like I've gotten anywhere. In the beginning, there was something I thought was me, but it wasn't. How can you move from nothing to nothing?
Because, none of us are nothing. None of us are without a legacy of spirituality . If you reach into your soul and connect with your monad , you will find that you have unlimited potential.
~*~Love , Light & Laughter ~*~
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