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    Like the sauce ? It's in there .

    The bloody whore is a metaphor . As from the fool to the magician , so from the empress to the whore again . This whole madonna and the whore paradigm is explored by Freud and Jung. Supposedly man is jealous of the power of women to give birth and sees women as either a madonna or a whore . And women is jealous that she has no penis and so she sees man as the magician or the fool . She is not content until she bears a male son according to Freud . (Don't shoot me I'm only the piano player )

    The magician cannot ascend until "he" comes into the female tan tiens first the water and then the air , the eyes and ears of the soul . But this women he becomes for a moment of samadhic bliss at Kether does not have the vibration to sustain this union and thus he falls once more into the loins or the male tan tien . Each time Kether is attained the bliss is longer, more fulfilling , more comprehensible and makes him hunger once more. And so he rises and falls as does the kundalini as does the sun and the moon within the magnificent pillar of crystal .

    Then the purple fourth tan tien is formed this is filled with amber stars . The mystical union is attained but the fall from grace comes too , the stars fall from the heavens and the magician becomes the fool once more . In this stage the new purple cosmic heavens tan tien pours its substance as amber stars down the crystal pillar.

    Each ascent makes the energy body stronger and raises the vibration . It is not in vain . We are not to hunger for the siddhi powers in ego but to search we should attain enough of them to enjoy the heavens and to know the hells . For it is also written ;

    Ecclesiastes chapter 2
    v4 I made myself great works. I built myself houses. I planted myself vineyards.
    The Great Work of Alchemy .The house is the energy body . The vineyard is kundalini ( in the Pistis Sophia an apocrypha of the Bible Christ calls it Mother Kundalini )
    v5 I made myself gardens and parks, and I planted trees in them of all kinds of fruit.
    The Tree of Life has diverse fruits .
    8 I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces:
    Silver is the Lesser Work . Gold is the Greater Work .
    ch4v6 Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
    benefits of quiet mind in meditation
    12 If a man prevails against one who is alone, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
    The trifold flame is the first three and primary colours of the kundalini , yellow , blue and pink .
    ch5 v12 The sleep of a labouring man is sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep.
    Dreamstate lessons are sweet but practice by will and control is richer.
    ch11v8 He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.
    Chastisement to follow the tree of life up initially and not down . To not whiten the Demons of Seth thru the Qlippoth until summoned by God .
    9 Whoso removeth stones shall be hurt therewith; and he that cleaveth wood shall be endangered thereby.
    Don't remove the philosopher's stone nor cut down the Tree of Life . This is God's garden .
    10 If the iron be blunt, and he do not whet the edge, then must he put to more strength: but wisdom is profitable to direct.
    Iron is made to Ruby and Copper to Emerald .This is by esoteric wisdom of the Emerald Tablet .
    11 Surely the serpent will bite without enchantment; and a babbler is no better.
    Kundalini will bite the unprepared body and give no magick but it will not bite the magician .
    ch12v2 While that the sun is not darkened, and the light, And the moon, and the stars, And the thick clouds returned after the rain.
    The tan tiens are the sun, the moon ,the stars, the rain is the divine effulgence .The light is the Godhead.
    6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
    The silver cord is our tether to astrally project . The golden bowl is our bees chamber round our mind . The pitcher is the heart and the fountain the kundalini . The wheel of life is in each chakra and each tan tien .
    7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
    11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.
    Prophecy about Christ the shepherd nailed to the cross .
    13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
    14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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    Rev 1:12 I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. Having turned, I saw seven golden lampstands. (WEB)Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
    The lamps or candlesticks have long been thought to be the 7 chakras . There is a golden mantle of honour that manifests clairvoyantly upon the beginning magician over his shoulders and breast .
    (KJV) Rev 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
    Bidden to write dreams for the next generation and visions as prophecy
    2:5Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. (KJV)
    Those who use their power to harm will lose it . The lamps are for light not darkness.
    7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the
    tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
    The kabbalah is the Tree of Life
    (KJV) 10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
    Devil seen as accuser and punisher . Promise of eternal life
    (KJV)11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Clairaudience of spirits, immortal spirit
    17He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the
    hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that
    receiveth it. (KJV)
    transmutation of the soul a philosophers stone a clean soul for a NEW life devoid of karma
    5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of
    life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
    escaping wheel of karma
    15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
    works means alchemy ...control of elements
    17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art
    wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
    clothe the energy body instead make riches in silver and gold upon it
    18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
    put light in the energy body , learn to see with clairvoyant sight
    4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
    allusion to iron and copper of alchemy and production of the Emerald Tablet
    6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
    a region of hell which the mystic sees as a sea of glass surrounded by 4 wide gaping monstrous beast mouths the glass becomes a sea of fire a fountain erupts from the centre each mouth one enters leads to another hell coming out the mouth on the east you come to the mouth on the west and back to the sea of fire as from the north you emerge from the southern mouth .This is the whitening of the Tree of Death
    (KJV)7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the
    fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
    These are the 4 faces of the sphinx , tarot and alchemy but not hell faces which are as eagle , lion , wolf and walrus sphinxs of serpent and dragons .
    20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    when the mystic comes to the sea of glass the second time it is of fire instead .
    And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
    21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh,
    chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
    21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
    These are the colours of energy body chakras , tan tiens, silver , gold and cyrstal .
    21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
    Celestial Gates . Pillar of Godhead Light .
    21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
    River of Life in Shamballah as is the River of Death .
    22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
    These works are a divine plan to heal each other and the world .
    22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    Kabbalah Tree of Life
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    Re: Like the sauce ? It's in there .

    wow, great post aunt clair!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Clair
    (Don't shoot me I'm only the piano player )

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    You cleared some things up for me along with frewaru, Ill have to conduct my own investigation into this but it seems I might be going through this... whatever this may be. Didnt really know it was ...eh.. documented which is seemingly somewhat important. Just no that Im having a really HARD time with whatever it is im going through, be it what you described or not. I keep persisting though, I dont give up. But sometimes It feels like ...idk feels like death or something. Like death as in a force, opposite to life. Yin yang maybe. Dont much know, my thoughts are scattered on it.


    Thnx for sharing, this gives me faith though I think I messed up but not too badly once so far. Broke a "law" or should I say went against virtue. Ill make sure not to do it again no matter how desperate!

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    Nick---- Guest
    interesting post aunt clair, An illuminating book on the symbology of Revelations is "The Holy Science" by Swami Sri Yukteswar, he analyzes Revelations and sutras of the Indian Sankhya philosophy, comparing and interpreting. His interpatation pretty much agrees with what you posted but he goes more in-depth. Its a short book but full of good info..

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    Oookay, I see I have to explain a bit more deeply.

    I have been reading some of the old Christian mystics (especially Meister Eckhart, 13th century theologican and prior of the Order of the Dominicans) and they all use terms like "whore", "virgin", "wife", etc methaporically. More precisely these terms describe different mystical states reached in prayer or contemplation (literally "with temple").

    For example the "virgin" is the state when the "soul is empty of all alien images" (Meister Eckhart).

    The term "punish" is used methaphorically, too. Just as in the case of Adam and Eve. *I* would call it an *instable* state, instead, but, well, people did not think in scientific concepts all those thousends of years ago when the terminology was founded. What is described is the fact that one can only hold certain states so long and eventually one will fall out of them again. Other states - for example the "wife" - are stable, and once reached you need no effort to keep it any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewaru
    It seems that the state of the highest rised kundalini with it's siddhis is a crucial one, also known as "whore" in the Abrahamic religions.
    ........Actually you did write Abrahamic Religions . That is what I replied to with my exegesis ...
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    Yes, I know, Aunt Clair.

    I just wanted to explain to Painterhypnogirl why I used the terms "whore" and "punish".

    Personally, I think the terminology of the Abrahamic religions is not the best fitting one to describe what is. They are too open to misinterpretation, all these ideas of the fundamentalists that it has to do with physical sex. But then again, maybe it is a matter of translation - and of course people at that time *had* to use concepts taken from their own culture.

    But in the end one can get used to anything, even a stupid terminology

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    Stumbled across this, pretty darn interesting - relates to christianity and alchemy.

    http://www.lcaruana.com/webtext/jourfar/jourfar8.html

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    Matt Guest

    Re: So what does one do with the kundalini energy after full

    Quote Originally Posted by timdowland
    So what does one do with kundalini energy after full awakening?

    So... We spend all this time raising energy, meditating, fasting, projecting, and raising more energy. Then finally we have the extreme full blown kundalini energy awaken within us, sending us into an orgasmic state of extreme bliss and from here on out we are able to raise massive amounts of energy and feel it more tangibley then ever before.

    But, what do we do with this energy, how do we use it, and how do we expend it? How do we progress from here? what is the next step to attain complete ascension?

    -Tim
    "Dream FEAR is a trigger to become conscious within the dream"
    "Dream consciousness is a trigger to enter; Love, then Joy, then Freedom; all unspeakable
    My understanding is that it gives you a lot more energy to work with and it's then a matter of focusing that energy in a practical way. Probably the more you practice using the energy for simple things the more likely you'll be able to use it for huge things like ascension.

    For instance I bet using kundalini to charge up your tan-tien with NEW might open up your clairvoyant abilities so you can do thing like remote view even better.

    I've tried and tried to see auras but haven't really been able to, but that might be a good next step to try. Edgar Cayce wrote a lot about what he saw in them so his books might be a place to start if you can see them and want to interpret them

    http://www.geocities.com/athens/5692/auras.htm

    If you can use your energy to tune yourself to metal's frequency you might be able to practice on forks and spoons to send them into a plastic state so they can be easily curled up

    http://www.fork-you.com/zodiac.htm

    http://www.fork-you.com/psipog01.htm

    These guys have a lot of articles on telekinesis

    http://www.psipog.net/articles.php


    I also think a big part of making progress is to show people how you got to where you are. It probably is true that whatever a person sends out is what they get back, and considering Metcalf's law:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law
    "Metcalfe's law states that the value of a network equals approximately the square of the number of users of the system (n^2)."

    The value of what you get back for explaining in detail how you're able to do what you can do is disproportionately large compared to the effort it takes to show people.

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    timdowland Guest
    So, have any of you experienced full kundalini awakening?

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