How often do you project?

[Jake]

Interesting you bring up age, how do you think this affects projection ability and frequency?



Why do you believe it is rare for you? For somebody who meditates frequently I would think that you could have the ability for more conscious exits. Have you tried the Robert Bruce techniques or do you stick with other types of meditation?

I consider being able to induce a fully conscious exit projection once or twice in a couple of months to be a grand success. At least for me.

As someone who meditates regularly, and does regular energy work, I would have thought that I would have the ability for more conscious projections too. It seems that the ability to recognize the conditions necessary for projection is also part of the overall ability to project. It also seems that some of the conditions that are needed for successful projection must occur naturally. We can participate to a point, but there DOES need to be natural existing conditions/energies etc, for success.

Everything changed for me as soon as I read Energy Work. Robert work has helped me exponentailly. He is the real deal. I guess that I come from a school of thought where I recognize the natural conditions without having to 'force' them. I believe that it is a 'relationship' with the natural occurring energies, as opposed to controlling the energies.

[CFTraveler]

Interesting you bring up age, how do you think this affects projection ability and frequency?

Firstly, I think any and all variables will have some effect on frequency (if not ability), and in my case, I used to project much more frequently (if spontaneously) when I was younger, and less frequently as I got older, which is partly the reason I decided to try to learn induction.

[Alienor]

I project when the need arises - that is: at will.
Even though there is a maximum of about a dozen projections a day and this also depends on what kind of work is done. It consumes what I call "mental energy", which I need to replenish and that just needs some time. And the amount of energy does vary - I think that has to do with limiting believes or complexes, but most people appear to notice such "energy fluctuations" or cycles.

[defectron]

That's pretty cool, being able to project whenever you feel like it is quite a useful ability, especially if you have access to all the planes. How many do you have access to?

[greytraveller]

Greetings
To reply to this thread's question, "How often do you project?". After reviewing my records of OBEs over the past two or three years it averages out to about 9 or 10 a year. (more this year and fewer back in 2009). The average is slightly less than 1 per month. I am like many others here in that I will experience several OBEs within a few weeks or days and then go a few months with none at all.


Regards
Grey

[jamboh]

very interesting thread, thanks for starting it! It's a question I've often wondered about as I'm reading these forums. I think the ulitmate goal of a lot of beginners (like myself) have in mind is 'at-will' projection, and it seems an obtainable possibility... but (sadly) the impression I get is that very few aspirants will actually get there. i guess there are a lot of factors at work, most notable to me is natural projection ability - as many of the seasoned projectors on the forum seem to fall into this category. It's somewhat depressing that regular projectors, who are not blessed with spontaneous exits, but have built there ability 'from scratch' seem to be few and far between.. or perhaps I've got the wrong impression?? there are plenty of beginners who seem to be having lots of fascinating experiences (me included) so I'm not discouraged to keep paracticing but I do wonder why there are not more people who have 'mastered' it to the point where at-will projection is commonplace? I know robert's work is based on the fact that anyone can do this etc, and I have every reason to believe that he's correct..

[Ariel]

I only know how to project through sleep paralysis episodes. If I could learn to control myself better I could have a lot more, but I would say I only have an astral projection once every couple of months.

[AlaskaBoy]

I consider being able to induce a fully conscious exit projection once or twice in a couple of months to be a grand success.

It seems that the ability to recognize the conditions necessary for projection is also part of the overall ability to project. We can participate to a point, but there DOES need to be natural existing conditions/energies etc, for success.

Great points!

I think the ultimate goal of a lot of beginners (like myself) have in mind is 'at-will' projection, and it seems an obtainable possibility... but (sadly) the impression I get is that very few aspirants will actually get there. i guess there are a lot of factors at work, most notable to me is natural projection ability.

I think the same as well. I understand the importance of consistent practice more than most, but I'm just hoping that projection at will is something that can be learned after much time and practice, not an ability that you must be born with. A person who is five feet tall may work their whole life to dunk a basketball, but probably won't succeed no matter how hard they try.

The books of Robert Bruce are my bibles and will keep believing I can reach my goal. But Robert has been projecting since he was 8 or 9 years old. I've only been able to remember my dreams until a few months ago when I began my OBE training, lol.

[jamboh]

The books of Robert Bruce are my bibles and will keep believing I can reach my goal. But Robert has been projecting since he was 8 or 9 years old.

In fact I think he says he remembers regularly projecting from the age of 3 or 4, and suspects that his projection ability was enhanced by an alien enity programming him with some form of advanced binural beats. When you hear of someone having that sort of start in life it does make you wonder how well someone with a more 'regular' childhood can compete in projection ability! As i said before however Robert does go to pains to stress that anyone is capable of having projections with the right training, and as he has personally trained hundreds of people over the years i believe him. In fact one of the signals to me that robert is the real deal is that he is constantly emphasizing that you have to put the work in, and build your skills step by step - as in any other new ability. He doesn't just say 'lay down, feel vibrations, visualize leaving your body, now go and explore the astral realms' like so many other teachers. I can tell that he has had to work for his mastery.

I guess it's like any other aspect of life, if you put the work in you can achieve great things. Not everyone who picks up a guitar will become jimi hendrix, but with dedication and effort most people could become excellent musicians. In fact the discipline and mastery can only come from hours of practice and honing... hendrix himself practiced fundementals like scales for hours and hours a day.

[Alienor]

That's pretty cool, being able to project whenever you feel like it is quite a useful ability, especially if you have access to all the planes. How many do you have access to?

When you say planes, you mean the concept that for example Kurt Leland did write about, I assume? I do not use for that the idea of planes, but it is more a range of frequencies comparable to sound or light. We have for different ranges of sound/light waves chosen certain names, but it is a continuum. This is how I also understand what some call "planes".

Therefore I can't give you a number of this kind of planes I would have access to. Also I did not experiment or go adventuring to find out how high ranges of "vibration" I can access. So far I always managed to reach where I needed to go.