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    Damn cats!!

    Ahhh those pesky elementals are a constant struggle to keep under control.
    last night i was once again confronted by them, in the form of three big cats. Two were panthers, big black beauties. Very serene, sitting/lying around purring...
    The other was even bigger. He was black also, but i knew he was a cross between a panther and a tiger. He was huge!
    And he wasn't behaving. He kept trying to get out of the house we all lived in. He'd come to the front door as i was leaving, and try to escape. I'd grab him, and he'd grab my hand in his mouth.
    Then the battle of wills would begin... He'd have my hand clamped between his back teeth, tight enough to have a really strong grip, but not tight enough to take a finger off. I knew he could any time, if he wanted, but i knew he wouldn't. So we'd be at the doorway, i'd be talking to him, telling him to behave and get inside, while trying to drag his huge bulk into the hall...he'd be digging his claws into the floor, and giving me little hard bites, as if to remind me "i could have your fingers off in a minute pal".
    I showed no fear, and after quite a struggle, he eventually gave up and allowed me to escort him back in to the main room, where the others were lying playing...
    "We are spirits in the material world" Sting. The Police.

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    Hello, Neil.

    If three elementals are portrayed together, the big and dominant one is usually the mental one. There are several clues to this in the scene, actually. The more docile ones are aligned, under control and well-behaved. These are usually the lower ones and they are often even identical, almost identical, or in other ways portrayed as being more closely related.

    Like you I had an experience were three elementals were portrayed as this. The lower two were actually twin girls, and the mental elemental was an older boy, acting out. Children are like animals common symbols for elementals, showing qualities the elementals have, too: You have to keep an eye on them, train and educate them, and make persistent effort. If you fulfill their needs, there's usually a beneficial and comparatively peaceful relationship. They expose behaviors ranging from resistance over opposition to downright acting out. That would be equivalent to the degree of alignment in the elemental.

    In this case you have a struggle to keep the mental elemental in alignment (keep it in the house), you struggle to keep it aligned and find resistance, and you overcome the resistance. The mental elemental can be shown as a fearsome beast at times, I am for example reminded of one of Bruce Frantzis' books where the struggle with the ego is compared to "hearing the tiger's roar."

    There's another element present in the symbolism - the picture of being locked into a situation together with the elemental, you grab him, and it grabs you. This also shows that you cannot do without your mental elemental and hence the ego, you have to reach a situation where the ego submits to the higher goals and aligns itself with the higher bodies. In this case the ego has already substantially yielded to the higher aspect in that it would resist and challenge, but not act out, and eventually submit again.

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    Re: Damn cats!!

    What would happen if you proceeded to take a walk with the big cat/elemental outside the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noctua_breve View Post
    What would happen if you proceeded to take a walk with the big cat/elemental outside the house?
    Interesting question!
    I'm not sure. I don't know enough about the nature of the Elementals. Perhaps an expansion of some sort?... Oliver, what do you reckon?
    "We are spirits in the material world" Sting. The Police.

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    Re: Damn cats!!

    No idea.

    Probably most interesting would be querying the elemental and learn about its motivations or the root causes of its resistance.

    Cheers,
    Oliver

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    Re: Damn cats!!

    If it's recurring, could it be possible you've misinterpreted?
    "A dream is a question, not an answer."
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    I would say its just not meant to be taken outside to have a walk with it there, as it is an inner element, which needs to be tamed INside. The confrontation, which for me also means integration of this certain element+energy, happens directly within. There`s a sort of temptation but resistence and fearlessness are exerted and therefor leading to success and growth, which probably will be mirrored soon also in reality.
    wishing joyful expansion, greetings from germany

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    Re: Damn cats!!

    Hello, Beek.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beekeeper View Post
    If it's recurring, could it be possible you've misinterpreted?
    Maybe, but I don't think exactly the same constellation is recurring. This reads more like status updates, because for example there are two aligned ones and one that needs attention. And they do tend to go out of alignment once in a while. I read that dream symbols that recur within consecutive nights are more likely to need more processing and interpreting.

    istia, I like the interpretation with the inside. That probably nails it.

    Cheers,
    Oliver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beekeeper View Post
    If it's recurring, could it be possible you've misinterpreted?
    Quote Originally Posted by Korpo View Post
    Hello, Beek.



    Maybe, but I don't think exactly the same constellation is recurring. This reads more like status updates, because for example there are two aligned ones and one that needs attention. And they do tend to go out of alignment once in a while. I read that dream symbols that recur within consecutive nights are more likely to need more processing and interpreting.

    istia, I like the interpretation with the inside. That probably nails it.

    Cheers,
    Oliver
    Indeed. I've had recurring dreams in the past, and these are definitely not the same.
    To me it seems like at some point, i've become aware of my relationship with the three, and am now simply privy to the constant attention required to keep balance in such a relationship. (Imagine having three girlfriends to keep happy, i can't imagine there being too many times where all three are completely satisfied. Sorry ladies, you know what i mean. )

    I'll have to take a look back at my dream journal to be sure, but i've a feeling my experiences with them started around the same time as a few initiatory-type experiences, which were closely followed by several that were clearly developing inner senses (again), which suggests a shift into a higher plane/zone of experience, ie, Astral - Mental.

    And Istia, ditto! The interpretation of what's happening inside seems spot on to me. I mean, there's a reason i worked so hard to keep the damn thing from getting out, right?! Tho i do like Oliver's suggestion that talking to it might provide some better insight into it's(my) needs.
    "We are spirits in the material world" Sting. The Police.

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    Re: Damn cats!!

    Okay, had to ask just in case.
    "A dream is a question, not an answer."
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