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    Joshua David Stone and Ascended Masters

    Hello Forum,

    Is anyone here familiar with the work of Joshua David Stone of I AM University? He seems to be the person behind the various New Age groups today which deal with ascended masters such as Sananda, St. Germain, Wyvamus, Djwal Khul etc.

    The meditation he teaches is mainly dealing with a set of invocations which invoke these masters and make a series of requests. The claim is, that, these masters respond to these requests and lot of energetic phenomena is experienced. As an example,

    thegic.org/profiles/blogs/fiftypoint-cosmic-cleansing

    My question to the forum is:

    - Is anyone here familiar and has experience with the work of Dr. Joshua David Stone? Any feedback?
    - Is anyone here familiar with the whole concept of Ascended Masters? Its obviously derived from the Theosophic movement of Blavatsky (who is now known to be fraud?), and modeled after the Hindu Siddhas and Taoist Immortals?

    Any thoughts are appreciated.
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    Re: Joshua David Stone and Ascended Masters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension20122 View Post
    - Is anyone here familiar with the whole concept of Ascended Masters? Its obviously derived from the Theosophic movement of Blavatsky (who is now known to be fraud?), and modeled after the Hindu Siddhas and Taoist Immortals?
    I'm curious about the Blavatsky = fraud statement. In what way is she considered a fraud, and by whom?
    Thanks.
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    I've heard that accusation before and it was never explained to my satisfaction.
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    Re: Joshua David Stone and Ascended Masters

    Blavatsky has often been accused of having been a fraud. I've even read the claim in the recent years in articles about other people of the time and age, for example Houdini who was an aggressive and relentless debunker.

    The thing is that she had no qualms of using "aids" in putting up a show in times when occultism was the entry badge to certain circles and fame. The late 19th century saw an upsurge of interest in "spiritism" and she rode that wave.

    The fact that she was exposed tricking people like this damaged her credibility in the long run. The long-term influence, both in written teaching and on other people that she taught and recruited for the theosophic movement, however, shows that's by far not all that is to her.

    In the end what she did made it easy for critics to refute her without even scratching the surface.

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    PS - the theosophic movement is not identical to Blavatsky. It attracted many formidable spiritual teachers in their own right, including Blavatsky, Olcott, Besant, Leadbeater, Bailey, Steiner, etc. In Mahatma Gandhi's autobiography he tells of paying Annie Besant (the head of the Adyar society at the time) his respects, and that he was an admirer of the movement, but not taking part.

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    I have met Dr. Joshua David Stone in projection and after his death as a teaching spirit. He was a great inspiration to me in this life. However, I think he goes a bit imaginary too. I do not agree with everything I read by him and feel that the reader should use discernment.

    He wrote books and guided meditations on ascension;
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,394.0.html
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,395.0.html
    and gave many of these away in free ebooks while he was alive because he hit a plateau and was instructed by the Mahatma that he would not continue to grow until he began to share freely. He had been given these wisdoms for free and should help others to attain them for free. In response to this he posted links to free downloads of many materials since his death these have been removed. He was inspired by the works of Alice Bailey
    http://www.occult-underground.com/bailey.html
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/ihas/index.htm
    who was a reluctant clairvoyant mystic. She left her entire body of over 20 books for free and these were published free on the internet until her heirs chose otherwise.
    Whom was preceded by Blavatsky
    http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/blavatsky-links.htm
    who coined the term New Age. Globally travelled , she enjoyed lessons in Tibet.
    She founded Theosophy a Western movement of mysticism to obtain esoteric wisdoms
    Although she credibly worked with the Mahatma she produced a fraudulent photo

    which caused her to lose credibility. She was upset by being linked to racist practices of Hitler and did not mean to have her ideas regarding Aryans extracted to promote him . She was accused of being racist supremist but protested this.

    Further to this Sai Baba also produced legerdemain pretending to manifest watches and jewelry while winking to his students and peers. He produced a freak show for those who wanted it and taught those who were serious with great love.

    She was a capable clairvoyant mystic who explored the cosmology of the realms and mapped them out before Monroe. Robert Monroe left land and a trust for development but his heirs corrupted that for profit as had Bailey's heirs.

    A good place to begin is with this little book by Diana Cooper;
    http://www.planetlightworker.com/art...article1.shtml
    and a viewing of this ;
    http://www.merkabah.org/
    based upon the Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch by James Hurtak

    Initiatic Magick is a rewarding paradigm which braids well with;
    spiritual development
    divination through Tarot
    mysticism
    Hermeticism
    Kaballah
    Ascension Alchemy

    In IIH Bardon espouses that Initiation is desirable and necessary to attain siddhi powers. The Mahatma provide attunements and lead the magician through the realms to learn.
    5th; the mystic aspirant projects to the etheric of the great pyramid and is met there by
    Thoth, Horus or others and is invited after an attunement to project through the capstone which is a rite of passage as the magician projects out of their body more wholly and is met by spirit teachers to begin pathworking
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...33.html#msg933
    6th
    the aspirant projects back to the etheric Great Pyramid at a higher vibration and enters the Golden Chamber of Melchiesedek to receive attunements of energy and a rod of initiation.
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,395.0.html
    7th
    the aspirant projects through the Akashic Plane Hall of Records to the Great Manse in Shamballah and meets Godhead there.

    The first initiations are more universal in the curriculum but after the 9th these become more idiosyncratic to the magician.

    I offer free readings and circle online on Skype and can take those interested through the early initiations.
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    Re: Joshua David Stone and Ascended Masters

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Clair View Post
    Whom was preceded by Blavatsky
    http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/blavatsky-links.htm
    who coined the term New Age. Globally travelled , she enjoyed lessons in Tibet.
    She founded Theosophy a Western movement of mysticism to obtain esoteric wisdoms
    Although she credibly worked with the Mahatma she produced a fraudulent photo
    ...
    which caused her to lose credibility. She was upset by being linked to racist practices of Hitler and did not mean to have her ideas regarding Aryans extracted to promote him .
    You might mean other antisemites of the time: Blavatsky died 1891, Hitler was born 1889.

    I have severe doubts that the material channeled about the "root races" has validity in the form it was presented. I think it was "mistranslated" when it was brought over from the energetic reality.

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    Thanks Aunt Clair!! So you think reading the decrees and meditation scripts published by David Stone would actually help one ascend?

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    @Korpo
    You are correct, of course. I did not articulate that well. Thank you for correcting me. I meant to write that Blavatsky was accused of being a racist and being antisemitic in her lifetime and protested this publically. However, her works were used by Hitler to promote "white supremism". His racist propaganda stirred pride in a mythical "superior Aryan" stock and his regime used this to begin his infamous genocide.

    @Ascension20122
    Yes, Stone's guided meditations are excellent methods of Initiatic Magick to evoke the spirit teachers and archangels for initiation and attunements. Sometimes these are much too long and wordy but the old mumbo jumbo does work. I have used these to attain the realms of the Higher Planes with peers. These mystic projections precipitate Kundalini and facilitate Ascension Alchemy. The magician begins to have dreamstate lessons as an apprentice angel.

    Here are some links to begin;
    1-4 are birth and sacraments with the family according to Bailey
    so she begins the initiations with #5
    5th
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,394.0.html
    6th
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,395.0.html
    GC / 6th
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,115.0.html
    7th
    http://forums.riverofenlightenment.c...pic,396.0.html
    These are a beginning. From the 8th initiation on, the lessons are not as universal and become more idiosyncratic to that magician.I don't think Stone wrote any guided meditations after the 7th.
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    Thanks Aunt Clair, can;t access the links though, it requires login and the forum registration seems to be closed.

    Are there any other such teachings available today apart from Joshua Stone? I AM University has 30 ascension meditations which they claim are the only such available on earth at this point.

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