Sex relation to energy

[Lion]

There is no inward release of literal, physical semen, except into the bladder.
Anything else results in blue balls.

I have been told that this is overproduction as a result of "aggrivating" foods. These are the same which would best replenish that which is lost. Can any actual cases by cited, in which semen production decreased in a person still eating a varied diet?

Thoughts should be given to the intent of intercourse. Is the partner being nourished or consumed? How 'bout you?

I've heard of Li Ch'ing Yuen ( http://www.itmonline.org/arts/hoshouwu.htm )
personally from a master of respectable lineage. Though this legend in longevity has been associated with tantra, few care to answer why he outlived every one of his wives!

[tyciol]

I'd be very interested in what nutrition leads to overproduction as to allow a greatly multiplied amount of releases.

I am wondering, what do you mean elimination of the ego? Surely you don't mean to fully eliminate it. Besides, can you honestly say your interest in the Tantra is so un-ego-ly sincere? I know personally what first attracted me to it was the mystical softn traditional feel it returned to sex. Sex seems to have lost a lot of it's magic what with all the pornography and sluts of both genders flaunting it and telling us that our dreams aren't real.

[sash]

Tyciol,

My aim with this is to increase my consciousness and align myself with my higher self. The ego is the lower self and is to be replaced with core higher self consciousness. At the moment of birth we do not have an ego, it is formed only in the physical, so yes I do mean totally eliminate it.

I also want to use Tantra and the like to rediscover sexual union in its true essence. I think that the whole idea of sex has been completely misconstrued by people by the time they reach age 16, and there is much more in it then what people normally take it as.

Much of the websites about Tantra, transmutation and alchemy seem to be deficient in explaining clearly a technique that works well. The only one I found conclusive in its explanations is the article that Ides posted, perhaps a higher level of energy body development is required to achieve that though.


Warm Regards,
Alex

[Astralsailor]

Tyciol,

My aim with this is to increase my consciousness and align myself with my higher self. The ego is the lower self and is to be replaced with core higher self consciousness. At the moment of birth we do not have an ego, it is formed only in the physical, so yes I do mean totally eliminate it.

I also want to use Tantra and the like to rediscover sexual union in its true essence. I think that the whole idea of sex has been completely misconstrued by people by the time they reach age 16, and there is much more in it then what people normally take it as.

Much of the websites about Tantra, transmutation and alchemy seem to be deficient in explaining clearly a technique that works well. The only one I found conclusive in its explanations is the article that Ides posted, perhaps a higher level of energy body development is required to achieve that though.


Warm Regards,
Alex

Ego can be used as a tool in many ways i like to work with my ego in a Partner ship.. If you seen the movie "Phenomena" i think its a great explenation... You know the way he describes the partnership with pens
I think we fill to much that ego is always such a bad thing. I dont belive its such a bad thing always.
Ability to work with ego i belive is what one needs. And not to let any side over dominante but work together to form and manifest the ideas of your "Depper" or "higher" self.
St Germain speak about this in "Cotinued studies on Alchemy"
I think it is a great book and surely recomend it for anyone ^_^
Everypart of you is you. May it be Higherself or Ego. Why would you want to eliminate yourself?

"In touch with Spirit, Love and Soul you will see the Lead turn in to Gold"
LL&L ^_^

[sash]

Hi Astralsailor,

I disagree that "every part of you is you". What would be called the negative parts, anger, jealousy ect. make up the ego. If you analyse yourself throughout the day and become aware of your actions you can pick up on the negative paths of thought and eliminate them.

You make yourself: You make your reality. The compilation of subjective ideas about the world in the ego are immensely limiting. By subscribing to certain egos one views the world through a very thin scope, you get the idea about how self limiting this is... I suggest watching What The Bleep, it tends to demystify this doctrine a little bit.

I would surmise that it would not be possible to project to any area of the Causal dimension, and some areas of the Mental perhaps, without a certain degree of retained and attuned consciousness. Consciousness is the antonym of ego to the best of my understanding. On the reverse of angry, resentful, vengeful would be the conscious attributes of compassionate, understanding, and hopeful.

It can be pretty easy to see how this fits in with Jesus as depicted in the bible, and what is often referred to as Christ Consciousness. I don't believe Jesus was ever said to have been angry. Eliminating the ego of anger would allow one to observe reality from every angel still, not killing a part of oneself, more so freeing a part of oneself I would say. Quite a feat to attain in my opinion. Perhaps there is such lack of information about whether Jesus practiced sex in the bible because he practiced certain alchemical practices. This could be the key to how people attain a level of spiritual mastery in themselves.

It's all based on consciousness fundamentally, the human consciousness seems to be covered with egos in it's current frame. I'm drawn to transmutation and tantra practices because to uncover that consciousness could be quite a transformational experience. Apart from that, I do pursue it because of the reasons stated by Tyciol.

It just seems like there is something sacred in that energy, perhaps even relating directly to Kundalini, I presume. Anyway, this subject is way too complex to cover sufficiently in one post, but I would suggest you deeper investigate the dynamics of the ego Astralsailor, as will I.


Warm Regards,
Alexander

[Astralsailor]

Hi Astralsailor,

I disagree that "every part of you is you". What would be called the negative parts, anger, jealousy ect. make up the ego. If you analyse yourself throughout the day and become aware of your actions you can pick up on the negative paths of thought and eliminate them.

You make yourself: You make your reality. The compilation of subjective ideas about the world in the ego are immensely limiting. By subscribing to certain egos one views the world through a very thin scope, you get the idea about how self limiting this is... I suggest watching What The Bleep, it tends to demystify this doctrine a little bit.

I would surmise that it would not be possible to project to any area of the Causal dimension, and some areas of the Mental perhaps, without a certain degree of retained and attuned consciousness. Consciousness is the antonym of ego to the best of my understanding. On the reverse of angry, resentful, vengeful would be the conscious attributes of compassionate, understanding, and hopeful.

It can be pretty easy to see how this fits in with Jesus as depicted in the bible, and what is often referred to as Christ Consciousness. I don't believe Jesus was ever said to have been angry. Eliminating the ego of anger would allow one to observe reality from every angel still, not killing a part of oneself, more so freeing a part of oneself I would say. Quite a feat to attain in my opinion. Perhaps there is such lack of information about whether Jesus practiced sex in the bible because he practiced certain alchemical practices. This could be the key to how people attain a level of spiritual mastery in themselves.

It's all based on consciousness fundamentally, the human consciousness seems to be covered with egos in it's current frame. I'm drawn to transmutation and tantra practices because to uncover that consciousness could be quite a transformational experience. Apart from that, I do pursue it because of the reasons stated by Tyciol.

It just seems like there is something sacred in that energy, perhaps even relating directly to Kundalini, I presume. Anyway, this subject is way too complex to cover sufficiently in one post, but I would suggest you deeper investigate the dynamics of the ego Astralsailor, as will I.


Warm Regards,
Alexander

Yes i seen that movie and i love it ^_^
I think we are taking each side of one coin
I dont see it as eliminating you ego but rather transmuting it and making your ego to better person so to say. And working and manifesting the ideas of higher self and not anymore the ego. The ego is a part of you deppending if you want it to be or not. I think of all part of me as me but the real me is my soul or spirit and much more. I think Ego is not a bad thing always and emotions is a gift. I think if we want ego to not be part of us it is not there is no really truth in it. We are having this human experience with these egos and i dont think the Ego has to be eliminated I rather say Parthership then Elimination and for the ego to trust the higherself or so to say.

I just think elimination is a word that not fit for this.
I agree with you and i know at the core we are explaining the same thing

Sex was the real subject of this post i think
HOpe thouse posts up there will help with the question that was possed ^_^

Im currently working with kundalini in progress Have been helped with it sometime now and opened all chakras
yes i will be happy to do that ^_^

Im so happy there are communitys like this Love you all ^_^
LL&L

[Lion]

I'd be very interested in what nutrition leads to overproduction as to allow a greatly multiplied amount of releases.

This is accomplished with amino acids, aphrodisiacal (sexual stimulant), and gland tonifying (ginseng, etc.) herbs. Meat is a balanced source of amino acids, which are formed when the protein breaks down in gastric juices, anyway. ($100.00 shakes, get bent.)

There is an old accusation that ammonia irritates the urinary tract of meat eaters, causing erections. Some Tantrists have said constipation tickles the prostate, making you horny, even to the point of equally draining nocturnal emissions. I've eaten meat until my stomach was noticeably distended and haven't noticed anything unusual, yet.

I am wondering, what do you mean elimination of the ego? Surely you don't mean to fully eliminate it. Besides, can you honestly say your interest in the Tantra is so un-ego-ly sincere?

I love this reasoning. It's like, if there is no Ego, why would you care, anymore?

The word Ego comes from Freud, who was religiously affiliated with Bacchean revelers. Pan, Baal, Lucifer, what the Christians called the god of forces, was meant to be ecstatically unleashed upon disinhibition. Sound familiar?

[Astralsailor]

I'd be very interested in what nutrition leads to overproduction as to allow a greatly multiplied amount of releases.

This is accomplished with amino acids, aphrodisiacal (sexual stimulant), and gland tonifying (ginseng, etc.) herbs. Meat is a balanced source of amino acids, which are formed when the protein breaks down in gastric juices, anyway. ($100.00 shakes, get bent.)

There is an old accusation that ammonia irritates the urinary tract of meat eaters, causing erections. Some Tantrists have said constipation tickles the prostate, making you horny, even to the point of equally draining nocturnal emissions. I've eaten meat until my stomach was noticeably distended and haven't noticed anything unusual, yet.

[quote:3blid3pt]I am wondering, what do you mean elimination of the ego? Surely you don't mean to fully eliminate it. Besides, can you honestly say your interest in the Tantra is so un-ego-ly sincere?

I love this reasoning. It's like, if there is no Ego, why would you care, anymore?

The word Ego comes from Freud, who was religiously affiliated with Bacchean revelers. Pan, Baal, Lucifer, what the Christians called the god of forces, was meant to be ecstatically unleashed upon disinhibition. Sound familiar?[/quote:3blid3pt]

yeah i agree

i have taoists secrets of love: for man and women, but in polish
the results i attained so far are very promising
to make long story short, ejaculation is tremendous loss of energy, and all internal organs are used to produce new sperm, brain too, not mentioning energy used
so each ejaculation kills you, literally

earlier i directed sexual energy from an orgasm+ejaculation up the spine, healed various body parts, etc, still the loss of energy is tremendeous when compared to not ejaculating, better than nothing, but not worth it
and ejaculation isn't orgasm, obviously , i will experiment with ankh in the future, thx

as to healthy ejaculation from time to time, the author of the book claims that he has ejaculated 2 times during last 10 years, to have a son
there are exercises there to fix night pollutions, etc
i won't give any rough idea since i would have tried it myself, and that could be dangerous
i suggest googling microcosmic orbit

personally i work on my ego being transparent, i also have plans for higher parts being transparent

[Middleway]

i have taoists secrets of love: for man and women, but in polish
the results i attained so far are very promising
to make long story short, ejaculation is tremendous loss of energy, and all internal organs are used to produce new sperm, brain too, not mentioning energy used
so each ejaculation kills you, literally

earlier i directed sexual energy from an orgasm+ejaculation up the spine, healed various body parts, etc, still the loss of energy is tremendeous when compared to not ejaculating, better than nothing, but not worth it
and ejaculation isn't orgasm, obviously , i will experiment with ankh in the future, thx

as to healthy ejaculation from time to time, the author of the book claims that he has ejaculated 2 times during last 10 years, to have a son
there are exercises there to fix night pollutions, etc
i won't give any rough idea since i would have tried it myself, and that could be dangerous
i suggest googling microcosmic orbit

personally i work on my ego being transparent, i also have plans for higher parts being transparent

That is all in your head. How your subconscious internally reactes to sex is a major determanent in how your body will handle energy. I used to think the same way because of indoctrination into gnosticism. However, when I started doing sex-based energy work and put aside the catholic mysticism based sexual guilt found within modern gnosticism I now actually collect and store outside energy during sex. I can actually gather enough energy so that I can ejaculate and still come out with more energy than had going in. I can easily have multiple orgasms if I choose or I could keep all the energy for even greater results. In fact, I don't even lose my erection(i.e. have to take a short rest) after ejaculation. My penis just stays erect as if I never orgasmed. On top of that I can handle greater amounts of energy so I can better choose when I want to orgasm.

Moral of the story: Build up outside energy. Don't waste your own internal energies.