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    BWG vs Nothing?

    Has anyone tried doing "regular" meditation instead of bwg assisted meditation, and come to some sort of conclusion as to what seems to be more effective?

    The reason I'm asking is that when doing the bwg exercises you're effectively adding time to the program, which should in itself make progress faster whether bwg is actually helping or not.

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    The nice thing about binaurals and other entrainment methods is that they give you the advantages of meditative states without the effort of having to spend years developing them. You can then channel those advantages back toward the process of learning to re-create those states based on the memories of having been in them. The traditional methods will have becomes easier and more effective. I found that the only brand that really worked for me at first was Centerpointe's holosync, but after spending some time using it I was able to get benefits from other varieties of binaural programs like BW Gen and Transparent Corp.

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    When I did the 90 day program I used the bwg once a week, sometimes once every two weeks. I don't know how that answers your questions- but now I don't use it at all, unless I'm feeling particularly stressed and feel like 'zoning out'- I feel it helps with 'drowning out' daily noise. But I don't really use it often. Maybe once every couple of months.
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    I would just like to point out that it doesn't take years for everyone to develop deep trance states. It all depends on the person or who was teaching them. I have clients that accomplish very deep levels of trance in their first session. Others take longer, but I haven't come across anyone who can't go deep by the 5th session. If you tell people it will be very difficult, then it usually will be difficult for them if they don't know any better. Suggestion can be very powerful.

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    I will add that technology has and will continue to allow faster progress in metaphysical practice. As far as things taking years, I would agree that being able to meditate deeply and effectively doesn't take years. However, there are many practices that have taken years in the past but now do not, simply because there are more avenues (related to technological advance) available to get there.

    Some say that frequent use of BWG-type mechanisms can develop dependence. I personally think that's a load of crap, since people tend to fall out of using them in the long run. Since you have the capability to use such technology, I would do so until you no longer feel the necessity to do so. I still use BWG, but only for certain things like remote viewing. Otherwise, I sit in relative silence.

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    Interesting points, thanks

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    Yes, it is possible to go into a fairly deep trance fairly quickly. That's not the point. I'm talking about meditation. I still maintain that there is a difference between a trance and meditation. Trances are much easier because people go into them all the time. Meditation is about coming out of them.

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    Yes, and I still maintain that there is no difference between trance and meditation. The only difference is in people's own particular perspective. The point I'm trying to make is that it puts people off from even trying when they are told that it takes years to develop. There is far too much one-upping in the New Age and even Eastern philosophies. Too many supposed "secrets" that you have to pay to learn or spend time adoring a teacher who may or may not have any enlightenment. You don't have to "master" anything to have incredible experiences. Some things just flow when the time is right. The most powerful experiences I've had have been completely spontaneous. Just being "open" to having an experience can sometimes be more powerful than using a technique.

    Using artificially produced sounds can be wonderful for some and distracting for others. I sometimes use a headphone set called a Neuro-tech which produces a beep in one ear with a corresponding tingle from the paddle held in the hand on the same side as the beep. It then switches to the other side with a beep and a tingle. It's a wonderful meditation device for me and others, but I've had clients actually rip it off and throw it across the room because it was so irritating. Everyone is unique. What works for you can only be discovered by trying it yourself.

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    Meditation techniques can be described simply and taught easily. They can get results quickly, in less than a week, and experiences can come as fast as the first attempt. Meditation is another matter and usually takes decades to learn. Meditation is not about having experiences or doing techniques. That is not meant to discourage anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom
    Meditation techniques can be described simply and taught easily. They can get results quickly, in less than a week, and experiences can come as fast as the first attempt. Meditation is another matter and usually takes decades to learn. Meditation is not about having experiences or doing techniques. That is not meant to discourage anyone.
    There's something I didn't understand here: Meditation techniques versus meditation itself?
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