HYLOZOICS: Warning: Upsetting material

[CFTraveler]

Jewish people live in the state of Israel. They either have or don't have the right to exist. The rest is philosophical. If this thread becomes 'about the merits or countermerits of holocaust denial', I will lock it.
Admin warning.

[IA56]

I am sorry to say things badly. Off course E v e r y o n e has right to exist. If some need protection it is the jews, bless them always in all ways.

[CFTraveler]

Let's just stay away from politics and religion, ok?

[IA56]

Absolutly!!

[ButterflyWoman]

IA56, I understand what you're saying. I, too, am very aware of a very large, horrible, extremely painful pool of horror surrounding the concentration camps and what happened in them. It's like a large, unhealed wound in the collective unconscious, and some of us are acutely aware of it. I have been since I was about 12 or 13 (puberty, when I came into many of my non-physical abilities and senses). Like you, I pick up that there were atrocities and horrors committed that are not documented, because the records were destroyed or because they were so unspeakable they were never documented at all. I don't know what they all were. I can guess at some of them, but I prefer not to. The pain and horror of it draws me in too easily.

I can never feel comfortable reading or watching documentaries on WWII because of this. When I get too close to the events, I feel the pain and horror and anguish, and it overwhelms me fairly quickly.

I understand what you're saying, and what you're sensing. I know you're not denying anything, or saying atrocities didn't happen. Rather the opposite. You're tapping in to the pool of horror and sensing that even more atrocities happened than people commonly know. I get it.

As for how people can do this, I don't know. I've never understood it. Some of them probably felt they were doing something that would ultimately be for the greater good (it's sick and twisted, but they probably did think it). Some pretended not to recognise just how horrible it was and made excuses for their own participation (they were "just following orders"). Some were genuinely evil, or psychopathic, or both. I have some deeper thoughts on the matter, and it's nothing that hasn't been said or written before, having to do with the All and the One, but that's a topic for some other thread and some other day.

I just wanted you to know: I understand.

[IA56]

IA56, I understand what you're saying. I, too, am very aware of a very large, horrible, extremely painful pool of horror surrounding the concentration camps and what happened in them. It's like a large, unhealed wound in the collective unconscious, and some of us are acutely aware of it. I have been since I was about 12 or 13 (puberty, when I came into many of my non-physical abilities and senses). Like you, I pick up that there were atrocities and horrors committed that are not documented, because the records were destroyed or because they were so unspeakable they were never documented at all. I don't know what they all were. I can guess at some of them, but I prefer not to. The pain and horror of it draws me in too easily.

I can never feel comfortable reading or watching documentaries on WWII because of this. When I get too close to the events, I feel the pain and horror and anguish, and it overwhelms me fairly quickly.

I understand what you're saying, and what you're sensing. I know you're not denying anything, or saying atrocities didn't happen. Rather the opposite. You're tapping in to the pool of horror and sensing that even more atrocities happened than people commonly know. I get it.

As for how people can do this, I don't know. I've never understood it. Some of them probably felt they were doing something that would ultimately be for the greater good (it's sick and twisted, but they probably did think it). Some pretended not to recognise just how horrible it was and made excuses for their own participation (they were "just following orders"). Some were genuinely evil, or psychopathic, or both. I have some deeper thoughts on the matter, and it's nothing that hasn't been said or written before, having to do with the All and the One, but that's a topic for some other thread and some other day.

I just wanted you to know: I understand.

Bless you.

[sono2]

OK, that makes sense - thank you.