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    Matthew Guest

    WILD induction technique

    This thread will be updated in the coming days and weeks as I work on my theory and techniques for having Wake Induced Lucid Dreams.

    Step 1: You must acheive the "body asleep/mind awake" state. I have been toying with the idea that the necessary pre-condition is to actually achieve an internal projection of the etheric double. You should feel completely weightless in a black void. (As a side note, once you achieve this state, interesting things can happen. For example, I sometimes become "lucid" during the night, but I am not in a dream. I am floating in the black void of an etheric body projection <theory only at this point.>) I believe this is the first state you must reach consciously to achieve a WILD.

    Step 2: Next, you need to "pull" a dream to you. I've been observing carefully how the dream is formulated and have been toying with the idea that it is actually a kind of "catching" and then "holding" the dream in front of you like a two-dimensional image. There are a few ways to do this and I'll edit this post to put in more detail here. Also, dreams that are entered into from the "outside" (I'll have to explain this better I think...) tend to be extremely detailed and appear to be more like physical reality. This "sharpening" of the dream occurs whether you start out awake and achieve step 1 (a true WILD) or if you become lucid outside of a dream while sleeping and "pop" into step 1 (I don't think this has a name yet).

    Step 3: Entry into the two-dimensional image to "flesh out" the dreamscape. There are several sensory methods to do this and I will be adding them to this post in the coming days. (Note to self: include face-to-ground technique and rework expansion-into-movement technique. Also, include note on most likely having to open dream eyes during transition...)

    Step 4: Most internal "etheric" projections include a loss of body consciousness making the person a "point of awareness." Therefore, a dream body must be constituted during the transition into the dreamscape... (note- discuss problems in transition and research whether body can be created in void before entering dream)

    Step 5: The last step involves firmly grounding the dream body into surroundings to avoid being "shaken loose" from the dreamscape.... the initial period can be tenuous and might require bringing the dream into "focus." (note- discuss techniques "tactile awareness," "object fixation- visual reference," and "dream narrative immersion")

    I'll be updating this post in the coming days....

    Anyone else, feel free to post your WILD induction techniques or opinions.

    -Matthew

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    Matthew Guest

    update on purpose of the thread

    OK. I started this thread as a dialogue on WILDS, but (since there weren't any responses) I am going to switch it to an ongoing project on WILD induction. I'll be expanding the first post with my theory.... so if you read it before, it's undergone an overhaul. And, if this area interests you, you might want to check back and see if I've updated it every once in a while.
    Feel free to provide your own ideas on WILDS. Also, post whether I have your permission to add your ideas to my theory.

    -Matthew

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    I'm certainly interested. Post away!
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    Thanks, Beekeeper. Glad to know someone is interested in it. I'll be updating it soon.

    -Matthew

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    Freawaru Guest

    Re: WILD induction technique

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew
    This thread will be updated in the coming days and weeks as I work on my theory and techniques for having Wake Induced Lucid Dreams.

    Step 1: You must acheive the "body asleep/mind awake" state. I have been toying with the idea that the necessary pre-condition is to actually achieve an internal projection of the etheric double. You should feel completely weightless in a black void. (As a side note, once you achieve this state, interesting things can happen. For example, I sometimes become "lucid" during the night, but I am not in a dream. I am floating in the black void of an etheric body projection <theory only at this point.>) I believe this is the first state you must reach consciously to achieve a WILD.
    I have been thinking along the same line as I sometimes stop in this - as RB calls it -. full trance during the waking up process. I have been slipping into dream from there again, too, but so far never lucidly. Might have to do with my lack of sleep for years.

    http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2477

    I am not sure what you mean by the "black void of an etheric body". Could you explain?

    Step 2: Next, you need to "pull" a dream to you. I've been observing carefully how the dream is formulated and have been toying with the idea that it is actually a kind of "catching" and then "holding" the dream in front of you like a two-dimensional image. There are a few ways to do this and I'll edit this post to put in more detail here. Also, dreams that are entered into from the "outside" (I'll have to explain this better I think...) tend to be extremely detailed and appear to be more like physical reality. This "sharpening" of the dream occurs whether you start out awake and achieve step 1 (a true WILD) or if you become lucid outside of a dream while sleeping and "pop" into step 1 (I don't think this has a name yet).
    That is very interesting. Thank you for sharing it. And yes, please, give more details.

    Step 3: Entry into the two-dimensional image to "flesh out" the dreamscape. There are several sensory methods to do this and I will be adding them to this post in the coming days. (Note to self: include face-to-ground technique and rework expansion-into-movement technique. Also, include note on most likely having to open dream eyes during transition...)

    Step 4: Most internal "etheric" projections include a loss of body consciousness making the person a "point of awareness." Therefore, a dream body must be constituted during the transition into the dreamscape... (note- discuss problems in transition and research whether body can be created in void before entering dream)
    I sometimes just observe the dream (lucid as well as non-lucid) - I get some kind of "watching movie" or "reading book" feeling. Then I merge with one of the characters I had been observing before. is this just observing what you mean by "point of awareness"?

    Also, post whether I have your permission to add your ideas to my theory.
    Of course you have permission

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    Matthew Guest

    Re: WILD induction technique

    Quote Originally Posted by Freawaru
    I am not sure what you mean by the "black void of an etheric body". Could you explain?
    Yes, that is a tricky phrase that I need to improve. I meant that I reach a state where I am floating. There are no directions. There is no sensory input, but there appears to be a "space" that I inhabit. I believe that this occurs when you have an "inner" projection where your etheric body moves out of sych with your physical body. I need to do more research before I really call it an "etheric body projection." I think it happens naturally in the deepest levels of trance. Since I am not sure, for now I call it the "black void" because that's what it feels and looks like.

    I sometimes just observe the dream (lucid as well as non-lucid) - I get some kind of "watching movie" or "reading book" feeling. Then I merge with one of the characters I had been observing before. is this just observing what you mean by "point of awareness"?
    I know exactly what you mean here.... I have had these dreams, too. But, in this case, I meant something different. The "point of awareness" I referred to was when we are in that "black void" (which might be an etheric body inner-projection). When we reach this void, we seem to have no discernable "body." It feels like we are just a "point" of awareness... not inhabiting a body with any shape or density. So, in order to enter dreams, I have always needed to create a body as I phase into the dreamscape. However, this miscommunication brings up a really fascinating point! I had totally forgotten about the "movie watching" dreams. In these dreams, we are like a point of awareness, too. So, now I wonder if making a dream body is really necessary. Perhaps we can enter a dreamscape and remain a point of consciousness like in the "movie" dreams..... I've never tried this. Wow! What a great way to shave off a step. If it works, it would mean that the dream body was not a necessary component to WILDs! However, I have to admit that many of my techniques to "ground" myself into the dreams require me to utilize my dream eyes or body in some way, so I would need to come up with new methods for not fading out of the dream.

    Thanks,
    Matthew

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    Isn't this phasing? But without the obscure (to me) focus levels?
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    You're probably right, CFT.
    Altough, I have never read much on the whole "phasing" process. (currently, I always use a body for OBEs and WILDs, so this is new territory for me). It would be great if someone experienced in that "system" would post a description here, so we can make sure that we are talking about the same thing.

    -Matthew

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    Well, I've only phased twice, so I wouldn't consider myself an expert (or even a conoisseur). Chris, I believe, is very experienced in phasing, if I remember correctly.
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    Matthew,
    An old moderator at Astral Pulse wrote out a very understandable description of phasing. I've had quite a bit of experience with phasing, and it's a lot easier to do for me than RTZ OBE's. For going to higher planes of existence, it's the only way to fly! With your experience, I'm sure you've done it without realizing that there is a name to the technique. I think this is Aunt Clair's favorite way of traveling, but I've never heard her call it phasing. Her descriptions of what she does are very similar, though. I forget what she calls it. Anyway, here's the link:
    http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17413

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