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    Re: Perineum Pain Carried Over?

    Quote Originally Posted by barnowl View Post
    Also, I'm curious about that vortex wind thing. Has anyone heard about that? I'd love to understand a bit more what that is.
    Do you mean astral wind, or transportation vortexes? I've experienced both, the second one being a way to get to the astral. Unless you mean something specifically mentioned in one of those links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnowl View Post
    I've noticed a pattern of experience what seems like a vortex/vacuum wind that will come once I'm in the astral and it will suck me (usually backwards) to some other point in the astral where I'll either learn something or have a very interesting experience.
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    Yes, I've used them before. They used to be pretty frequent when I was a newly 'learned' projector and would see them in the RTZ and I'd jump into them and end up in the astral. Later on I would be trying to project and one would appear (as an exit) in front of me and I'd 'lean' into it and off I'd go. (Traveling through a tunnel is a lot of fun, and appeals to the 'surfer' in me). Later on I stopped having all exit symptoms and I'd just phase into wherever I'm going, and those types of effects seem to have disappeared.
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    Re: Perineum Pain Carried Over?

    Hello, barnowl.

    What an interesting thread. All I want to add is that the first chakra has to do with issues of survival, which came to mind when I read this:

    I laid down and affirmed to myself that "I remove all fear programs preventing me from astral journeying" and BOOM, I've never popped out of my body so fast.
    Fears for your survival could take root (pardon the pun) in your first chakra, or manifest as a pressure there. The farther you've journeyed, the more "psychological distance" you covered. Monroe would have called it going farther beyond the last signpost. People who might have an unconscious ingrained fear that astral projection is part of the death process might fear - even unconsciously as anxiety - that they are in fact dying or in any kind of danger. Such unconscious fear could seek expression through the first chakra.

    Each chakras has aspects on each of the planes - so your first chakra exists on all planes in differing degrees of activation. Some people seem to see these as chakras above the crown chakra, but that's my interpretation and need not be correct. Issues can also transfer between the different chakra aspect as energy filters down from the higher planes to ground itself out on the physical plane. Kurt Leland calls this the lightning rod effect, because the physical plane can act as a place where energies can be ground out.

    So if you have an astral/emotional or a mental/belief issue, these energies might manifest in your physical body as well, something we also know as psychosomatic effect. People with rigid mental belief structures might also experience inflexible bodies, and so on. Experiencing that effect on the higher planes first and having it transfer to the physical plane next makes kind of sense in this context. By working on the energy level you also brought a kind of resolution to this issue.

    You might want to observe what happens on your future travels. If things like these occur, it might also help to ask out "What does this mean?" You might not know whom or what you are asking, but trust an answer will come. It might come in irregular ways, but I found that often an answer finds its way if we are prepared to listen and observe.

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    Re: Perineum Pain Carried Over?

    Barnowl wrote;
    I've learned to take these things into account when reading older writings. Sort of like how Alice Bailey's writings are a bit homophobic by today's standards but were just a reflection of the cultural paradigm of her time. The whole trip seemed to be inner-work regarding shadow stuff, so a powerful encounter with my Animus would make sense, especially in regards to the root chakra.
    Forgive the tangent but can you please explain what you meant by Alice Bailey being homophobic? Can you cite the text or reference ?

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    Re: Perineum Pain Carried Over?

    "I suggest you are trying to unplug yourself from the matrix before you are ripe enough to fall off the vine." Aunt Clair

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    Homophobia? nah.

    But like Pauls word to Timothy, it merely is a "cautionary" pointer to on/incoming shifts [waves and torrents] toward equalizing gender/sexual/sensual...etc.[1=1][1is1si1][1is(1/0=nothing)si1]=[everything=much ado about nothing][love is nothing if not in love...IS] into the wholeness which neither gender IS, yet is/are in spite of, THAT to be IS of love in love. all the misunderstandings that have spun off "hate-isms" have nothing to do with what Love IS, yet have served to reveal what Love is not.

    thus, "androgeny", yet exacted wholeness. Glad YOU Came: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cx-IONXyvw
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    Re: Perineum Pain Carried Over?

    Forgive another tangent please, .....i just love this pop group, though i know little of them, but this song is a forgotten favourite of mine, thanks for sharing it Tutor & reminding me x x

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