Originally Posted by
CFTraveler
Hi LL. I'm going to answer the question how I understand projection.
Projection is having your perception in an environment. It can be in degrees of physicality, from the completely physical to the completely nonphysical. They are all projections of consciousness, but they experience different types of environments.
I try to tailor the name to the descriptor, but many people use them interchaengably. So I'll try to describe what I'm trying to say.
If I'm dreaming I'm projecting my consciousness to a nonphysical environment. It's largely mental, and astral, because usually there is no lucidity and the content is subconsciously formed. So in a dream it can be said that you are astral projecting without lucidity. Of course, we call it 'regular dream'.
In a lucid dream, like a normal dream, you are still projecting to the astral, usually starting out nonlucid (unless you're phasing or WILDing)- there is no physical (etheric) component to the environment- it's mostly mental and astral. But, when you become lucid, you now have the capacity to transcend the boundaries of the dreamscape, and go towards the collective astral. If you leave the dreamscape lucidly, you projected into the astral from a dream, if you phase or WILD, you astral projected.
A Remote View (or clairvoyant experience) is what you've described in your post- I still call it projecting, but you have not moved out of your body so it's not an OBE- it's a projection of consciousness, and if you've phased (moved into the scape) it's an AP, if you just observed from the clear vantage of your body, it's a clairvoyant vision /aka Remote View, if done within certain protocols.
An OBE is a type of AP. Most OBES are projections to the real time zone or etheric plane. It is the experience of leaving your body. It's technically an AP because some authors include the etheric (or real time) as a subset of the astral, therefore it would be considered a type of AP. However, for clarity about the type of experience I had, I only call it an OBE if I have a clear exit and find myself in the realtime zone, and an AP if I experience the Astral directly, without starting out in the realtime zone (or the etheric). It's my preference, because I prefer environmental descriptors.
If you're phasing, yes. I find that most newbies OBE into the etheric first and then go astral from there, and after some time they start phasing, at least it's how I do it now.
What you are describing is a realtime OBE (or OBE into the etheric.) Most people start with this, and continue on to Astral Projection, or phasing, what I call a projection to the astral proper.
I hope this didn't confuse you even more. Now I'm going to go back and see what everyone else wrote.
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