How I'm planning to use the LOA

[John Sorensen]

Hello John.

You seem to be into Quantum Physic alot, all your post remind me of Greg Kuhn literature about LOA in general. Yes all the possible outcomes you desire already exist in the "vibrational store". When you send a request/desire/wish, that request is always fullfilled, so it does already exist.

The problem is that people sometimes do not believe they already have their desires NOW, so they use Affo/irmations to overcome the belief gap. Like I said in my previous post, when I do creative immagination, I mentally visualize in the NOW, focusing on the emotions, because emotions are the fuel of the LOA, I also focus on the sense of touch etc. The subconscious mind doesn't distinguishes a mental image from a real event happening in the Now.

Visualizing in the now its the same as visualizing your wishes already fullfilled, you are vibrationally matching your desire and as you know similar attracts similar.

This is the equation of attraction in general: (Happiness Joy/Power + Thoughts + Gratitude + Time + Astral Plane(optional)) - (Negative Thoughts + lack + Holding beliefs)= Manifestation in the shortest amount of time.

Yep the higher self can help you alot in the process, you are also working alot with the higher self by using Ho-oponopono, I think the higher self is great for the inner beliefs holding you back, I wrote that post in a rush and didnt specify it, I usually call guides assistance when I'm really in troubles, for example like having alot of resistance in my current situation and all my visualizations & attempts to bring a better situation are void due to amount of wasted energy, so I called for their aid to first solve my present situation with other people I was dealing with.

Here's the chart:

Nice.

When Greg Braden talks about this sort of thing, his analogy is that thoughts are the guidance system, and emotion is the engine, or the power.

Like if you in the driveway sitting in a car, I imagine thoughts would be the steering wheel, you can pick a direction with it, but by itself, its rather useless, it's not until you start the engine (emotions) than you really have the power to go somewhere / RE: LOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQeIsfQtE4

[John Sorensen]

Actually, the more I focus, the more things slow down. It's like non-Newtonian fluid. Or Chinese finger cuffs. The more I focus on something, the more it bogs down the works. It may not completely stop desired manifestation, but when I stop paying attention is usually when things start to move. And, as I mentioned, much of the time, things just manifest in a completely emergent way, without much (or any) conscious effort.

Lately, I seem to be manifesting a number of rather frustrating situations that need to be resolved. Clearly, I still have a few lingering deep beliefs/fears that need to be dissolved. Hence my comment about doing inner work.

My reality, my experience. Your mileage may vary, and it apparently does. Perhaps someone else someday will read what I wrote and their reality will be similar enough to mine that a little flare of understanding will fire and they'll get an ah-hah moment. Or perhaps not.

I'm a bit confused by what you are saying.

At some point are you choosing something re: manifesting, I mean do you write it down, think about it, meditate? What is your internal process, are you holding an intention?

And when you say the more you focus on something, the more it slows things down, what sort of time frame are you talking about?

When I meditate on say what I would call a probably reality (whatever it is I want to manifest) I will first go into a light meditate state (alpha or theta) then focus on the probable reality for just 5 minutes out of any 24 hours. If I am going to do anything else, I will write down some intentions / goals, and perhaps "program" a dream by giving myself a suggestion as I go to sleep, to dream on a particular topic.

Combining the dream programming with meditation at zero point for me works really well.

We often work out things in dreams, and experiment with ideas/scenarios to see how they would play out, but also we can partly program our physical reality from the dream state, and move things along re: manifesting in terms of how soon something turns in linear time.

The stronger the emotion, the sooner we manifest something. This applies also to ANY emotion, so whether it something we want, or don't want, either way if we focus upon it with strong emotion, we draw that probable reality to us.
e.g. Someone who is constantly afraid of disease, cancer etc, manifest cancer, because the resonant emotion "fear" is what they send out. Emotions are not just local experiences, they are able to be detected with certain equipment on the electromagnetic spectrum. Our emotions affect matter, and the quantum field, so I am saying they send out literal vibrations that are actually measurable, and the type of emotion (that produces the "feeling" /resonant frequency in the body) determines the type of affect we have on matter.

Here I am not just talking about objects, but our own bodies, which of course are made of matter, organised by intelligence, living fields of awareness.

This video/audio explains it better than I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmMSbgu-jc

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[John Sorensen]

Actually, it really depends how you focus, focusing could slow down or make things faster. If when you focus, you feel resistance, low emotions, then you are making it slower, if you feel good aligned emotions, then you are making it faster.

When you manifest things without much or any effort, it means you don't have resisting beliefs about the subject, so it does manifest.

There is a phrase that Matt Furey uses "Zero Resistance Living", he uses Maxwell Maltz's Psycho-Cybernetics program, one of the most under-rated personal development tools I've ever encountered, but yeah I have zero resistance to whatever my various goals are, I choose them carefully, but also I have used various methods to change the "subconscious" mental programs in my mind.

I tend to think of the subconscious beliefs etc as "programs" or software like running on a PC.
I struggled with many things in life until I changed these programs or installed better software and got rid of the mental viruses that we pick up from society, media, family, friends etc.

These days I can effortlessly change any belief, or overwrite it with a new more empowering belief, after studying methods for accessing subconscious mind. It's amazing how easy it is, and yet people pay to see all sorts of behaviour modification experts , when they could do it themselves, easily, and for no cost at all, but it's funny, when something is free and easy, people tend to overlook it etc.

Also, when I have an intention, there is no doubt or fear involved, so I am not sending out that frequency or confusing the message.

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[eyeoneblack]

LOA / Manifesting, to me, is something that should be subconsciously driven and I think I agree with Butterfly here. I have had some nasty results trying to manipulate reality. For example, I do not, will not own a gun. The mere presence of one, I believe, will call a situation where I might have to use it. I will not read any medical text, especially if it concerns cancer - don't need that wandering in my hyper-suggestive imagination.

When I run into trouble of any sort I wonder what's going on psychologically that's drawing this to me. So I search myself and wonder how and why I have attracted trouble. You see, this LOA is operating 24/7 and subtlely influencing the events in both the real world and internal one. But, I do not ascribe to a mechanic's viewpoint - get out the tools and fix it. It's not that simple.

There is a meditation exercise I call Tuning Your Violin, which, should I remember to meditate more often, is useful. But to think, "I'm going to manifest a lover, money, whatever, is in violation of the code on which LOA / Manifesting is built. Same holds true of virtues like say, I'm going to manifest perfect awareness - the yogi's condition. Do what you will, these things take years and there are no short-cuts.

[John Sorensen]

LOA / Manifesting, to me, is something that should be subconsciously driven and I think I agree with Butterfly here. I have had some nasty results trying to manipulate reality. For example, I do not, will not own a gun. The mere presence of one, I believe, will call a situation where I might have to use it. I will not read any medical text, especially if it concerns cancer - don't need that wandering in my hyper-suggestive imagination.


When I run into trouble of any sort I wonder what's going on psychologically that's drawing this to me. So I search myself and wonder how and why I have attracted trouble. You see, this LOA is operating 24/7 and subtlely influencing the events in both the real world and internal one. But, I do not ascribe to a mechanic's viewpoint - get out the tools and fix it. It's not that simple.

There is a meditation exercise I call Tuning Your Violin, which, should I remember to meditate more often, is useful. But to think, "I'm going to manifest a lover, money, whatever, is in violation of the code on which LOA / Manifesting is built. Same holds true of virtues like say, I'm going to manifest perfect awareness - the yogi's condition. Do what you will, these things take years and there are no short-cuts.

You already manipulate reality, everyone does, there is no way not to, the difference is whether you are conscious of it or not.

Most of my goals are long term ones, however a recent one was to find a partner/relationship. After about 7 years of being by myself, I meditated every day for 12 months on meeting my partner, and then I did meet that person, but first I imagined the person in my mind, and thought of all the qualities that I found desirable eg loyalty, honesty, fun, loving, joyful, cares about others etc.

I did not just passively wait for a relationship to happen, like I had in previous times, I intended to this to be so, and then allowed my actions to follow through by joining dating web sites and communicating with people. If I did not do the pre-work of naming the qualities, holding the intention, and releasing that intention into the field (via meditation each day) then I would not have recognised my partner so easily.

I knew when we talked that we valued the same things, and more importantly, that our frequencies matched, which is not a thought, but a literal sensation I can feel in my body, a resonance, like how you feel being around your oldest best friends, or doing something you love like a hobby or whatever.

When you are around people on your frequency, your sense of well being improves, your health generally improves (but not always), your immunity is stronger and various other life enhancing qualities.

The thing is, with LOA, you get what you FEEL you deserve, the feelings you radiate give the truest state of how you are. The thoughts do bugger all, I chose the thought, and powered it with emotion.

I used to send out feelings of lack, doubt, insecurity, worthlessness and other depressing qualities and then wondered why I could not find a partner for many years.

Anyhow, from my current perspective, YOU create your personal reality, whether accept it or not. There are no codes or rules or whatever, just you, your thoughts, emotions, feelings and actions.

When people write stuff like Think and Grow Rich, LOA, Secret, Jerry and Esther Hicks material or whatever, they are only describing reality. There are no set rules other than you get what you focus upon, which is not a rule, but more of a quality of being. Each of us is our own world/universe while we share a co-created reality.

I think Wayne Dyer put it best "We are afraid to be God".

Like attracts like, if I walk around every day fearing an unpleasant event, then I will draw that event to me from the field of probable realities. However if I just think a particular thought/feeling on any given day, I am not going to draw that to me, unless I feel it very very strongly, or I think and feel that state over and over again.

We attract what we are, or FEEL ourselves to be, not what we think we believe, but how we actually feel in our heart of hearts is what we draw to us.

I used to feel depressed, powerless, useless, unloved, unwanted, purposeless, frustrated, and at several points over the years suicidal and morose for months at a time. My quality of life reflected my internal state because that is what I felt I deserved, but I know now that I made myself miserable, not my environment or other people, even if it seemed that way at the time.

I do find that a materialist perspective is a short recipe for misery in my case. Feeling disconnected, alone, and powerless in a universe where we are anything but that was a waste of years of my life that could have been more productive, however it did push me away from what I did not want, towards what I did want, which is a life of joy, love, inner peace and happiness. A life of living each day sincerely, with love in my heart and joy in my movement.

My greatest passion / difficulty is translating inner data and experience into words to remind people that they live in a universe of unlimited love and abundance, where fear is of your own creation, and does not even exist, except in our minds, when we are ready, we let fear go and know only that which we are, which is abundance and joy as our everyday reality.

There are many paths to love and peace, you need only choose your own, whatever feels right for you, and don't let anyone else tell you how to live, not me, not anyone, or you become a slave to other people's ideas, rather than the author of your own life.

[deannamill]

LOA / Manifesting, to me, is something that should be subconsciously driven and I think I agree with Butterfly here. I have had some nasty results trying to manipulate reality. For example, I do not, will not own a gun. The mere presence of one, I believe, will call a situation where I might have to use it. I will not read any medical text, especially if it concerns cancer - don't need that wandering in my hyper-suggestive imagination.

I feel the same way. I think that many people can bring on their own diseases and sickness this way. All my life my Mother kept saying she was going to lose her mind. Always focusing on her illnesses, her father lost his mind, so she was sure she was going to lose hers, but his resulted through multiple strokes, and now she has Alzheimers.

When I run into trouble of any sort I wonder what's going on psychologically that's drawing this to me. So I search myself and wonder how and why I have attracted trouble. You see, this LOA is operating 24/7 and subtlely influencing the events in both the real world and internal one.

Yes it is going 24/7. We who are part of the source are co-creators of our reality. Its on-going and it never stops. I feel like it works on not only our thoughts but especially our emotions. Emotions seem to ramp it up. Its like emotions have a more powerful vibration to them... No one wants to be unhappy, and have bad things happen to them... but worrying about those things, most diffidently can assure that they will happen.

But, I do not ascribe to a mechanic's viewpoint - get out the tools and fix it. It's not that simple.

Yes, and no... that depends on how you are attempting to fix it. Yes, we should take some type of action on how and which direction we want our lives to go. That does not have to be so difficult either.

There is a meditation exercise I call Tuning Your Violin, which, should I remember to meditate more often, is useful.

Yes, meditation is an amazing way in the use of "Tuning Your Violin"... and I should meditate on that more often too. It is also a tool that can be used for visualization, which puts the LOA in action.

But to think, "I'm going to manifest a lover, money, whatever, is in violation of the code on which LOA / Manifesting is built. Same holds true of virtues like say, I'm going to manifest perfect awareness - the yogi's condition. Do what you will, these things take years and there are no short-cuts.

So eyeoneblack, what type of code are you talking about? Created my whom? People may manifest a plethora of things, including abundance, how is that a violation of a code? Abundance can be many things, many good things also. It really depends on their intention. People have also manifested great evil and greed, in such horrible ways. Where their intentions were so powerful that they created great catastrophes... the source through the LOA does not care if we wish good or bad, our thoughts just creates things. Why must it take years to master? Must we be a yogi and sit in a cave for 30 years before we understand the LOA? No, it can be easy, and fast, but we have a tendency however to disrupt the manifesting we want to achieve. And why? or How?

I love "Mike Dooley" and from all the books I have read on LOA... he seems to explain it, at least to me, the best way any one has tried to describe the manifestation process.

He says we need to manifest in generalities. For example, you can manifest abundance, or you can manifest happiness... keep it general. Also, visualize the end product... its like, working backwards... you start at the end. I know I have done this so many times in my life, and not even realizing I was manifesting what I wanted. All I saw was the end. For example, when I went back to school to get my teachers certification... All I know, is that I knew I was going to get it, as if I already had it. How I got it... lol, its really funny, its like its all a blur... all the hurdles I got through, the classes, its all a blur.. because no matter what, I saw only the end result, it was that easy... but I did take action by pointing my self in the right direction.

Visual the end, as if you already have it... its that easy... the way we mess it up, is thinking too much of the "dreaded hows" The universe will move people, places, and events, in ways that will manifest the end result. When we start thinking about how? Then we start messing with the natural flow of the universe, and we will actually sabotage our manifestation.
And I know this to be true.. I am also a great saboteur of my own manifestations, that is being human. Its also how we learn from our mistakes. So whether it is a small things, or a large things... just think about the end result, and let the universe take care of the rest.

[John Sorensen]

I feel the same way. I think that many people can bring on their own diseases and sickness this way. All my life my Mother kept saying she was going to lose her mind. Always focusing on her illnesses, her father lost his mind, so she was sure she was going to lose hers, but his resulted through multiple strokes, and now she has Alzheimers.



Yes it is going 24/7. We who are part of the source are co-creators of our reality. Its on-going and it never stops. I feel like it works on not only our thoughts but especially our emotions. Emotions seem to ramp it up. Its like emotions have a more powerful vibration to them... No one wants to be unhappy, and have bad things happen to them... but worrying about those things, most diffidently can assure that they will happen.

Yes, there is a great book on this topic by Dr Tien Hsu.

You can read my comments on it here:

http://sethforums.com/forum/4-seth-t...sheng-hsu.html

Although the title mentions cancer, it can apply to many disease conditions.

When we do take on a "life threatening" disease, it is still by choice, no external force thrusts it upon us, we are not victims, but unconscious creators. The disease is an opportunity to learn, regardless of whether we live or die.

[deannamill]

Thanks John, Seth is amazing, and for the link to the book.

[eyeoneblack]

I have had a minor revelation in the last 24 hrs. It all began with John's story of manifesting a mate/relationship. John set about his goal and put a lot of time and energy into it. Apparently he is happy with his results. This forced me to reflect on my life. I have been single more than 25 yrs. In our culture that may seem odd, sad, dare I say - immoral? Well, 'that just aint right!' would be the refrain heard from many people (especially on the Right).

But to compare John and I would be to compare apples and oranges. However, the LOA was/is as much in force for both of us. It is an immutable law. while the river is the same for us both, it is also deep on a personal level. "No doubt the world is unfolding as it should". You will no doubt recognize this quote from Desiderata. I began my studies in Eastern Philosophies in my late 20s and over the years I became well inculcated in the Eastern mind. And in this mind developed this 'hands off' relationship between me and the world I temporarily live in. I have complete faith in the mystery and magic of the universe and on that alone I trust my faith. "oh man of little faith" was Jesus' admonition to Peter in the sea of Galilee. [that may not be just right, best I remember.] My point is I face life's vicissitudes each as a call to faith.

I hope you see that I am not unhappy with my solitary life. It is correct in its own way. The life I choose. Such an existence may cause unspoken scorn from some, believing that some psychological pathology may reside at its core. Maybe it does, but all-the-same, it is best for me. It answers MY psychology and there's no sense arguing with that.

The thrust of the matter should be obvious to me; I bring my Eastern philosophy to the Western table and I should not be surprised when my friends do not click 'Like'.

The same, of course, holds true for aspirations of wealth, of celebrity and influence. My course 'in this world' is predicated on the bedrock of 'my aspirations of Heaven/Nirvana. The fruits of the Spirit grow from the seeds of humility and compassion sown in the soil selflessness. This is My truth.

This is my mea culpa and probably all I'll say on this. It is a discussion in which I really don't belong.

[Good grief, is this is ever a rough draft ]

[John Sorensen]

I have had a minor revelation in the last 24 hrs. It all began with John's story of manifesting a mate/relationship. John set about his goal and put a lot of time and energy into it. Apparently he is happy with his results. This forced me to reflect on my life. I have been single more than 25 yrs. In our culture that may seem odd, sad, dare I say - immoral? Well, 'that just aint right!' would be the refrain heard from many people (especially on the Right).

But to compare John and I would be to compare apples and oranges. However, the LOA was/is as much in force for both of us. It is an immutable law. while the river is the same for us both, it is also deep on a personal level. "No doubt the world is unfolding as it should". You will no doubt recognize this quote from Desiderata. I began my studies in Eastern Philosophies in my late 20s and over the years I became well inculcated in the Eastern mind. And in this mind developed this 'hands off' relationship between me and the world I temporarily live in. I have complete faith in the mystery and magic of the universe and on that alone I trust my faith. "oh man of little faith" was Jesus' admonition to Peter in the sea of Galilee. [that may not be just right, best I remember.] My point is I face life's vicissitudes each as a call to faith.

I hope you see that I am not unhappy with my solitary life. It is correct in its own way. The life I choose. Such an existence may cause unspoken scorn from some, believing that some psychological pathology may reside at its core. Maybe it does, but all-the-same, it is best for me. It answers MY psychology and there's no sense arguing with that.

The thrust of the matter should be obvious to me; I bring my Eastern philosophy to the Western table and I should not be surprised when my friends do not click 'Like'.

The same, of course, holds true for aspirations of wealth, of celebrity and influence. My course 'in this world' is predicated on the bedrock of 'my aspirations of Heaven/Nirvana. The fruits of the Spirit grow from the seeds of humility and compassion sown in the soil selflessness. This is My truth.

This is my mea culpa and probably all I'll say on this. It is a discussion in which I really don't belong.

[Good grief, is this is ever a rough draft ]

Good grief indeed Charlie Brown.

I liked reading your post.

Personally, I prefer to spend 90% of my time alone, on any given day. It is going to be hard learning to spend less time alone with the person I have become involved with, she is is someone who likes to spend the majority of her time with me, so it will be perhaps difficult to meet her needs, while meeting my own needs.

When I am around people too much, it just feels suffocating. I think it is because if you have any sensitivity in you, it is hard being around others not to slip into unconsciousness, the opposite of mindfulness if you will, the ego starts to run you, rather than spirit.

It takes real consistent effort just to be present and not keep getting drawn back into the little self around other people, especially large groups of people. I only mix with smaller groups, otherwise the energy of the crowd, like a football game for example can take you over.

Well, I enjoy being alone, and I had no intention of ever getting married in this lifetime, in my view that is a quick path to misery for all but a few. But that is my prejudiced view.

The person I am involved with has me reconsidering, as longer term, she definitely wants to get married, it is very important to her. So if we stay together, that will be the course, I would not stay with her longer term and not marry her, as we have stated our intentions right at the beginning.

If this is to be so, then there are some things I really need to discuss with her first.