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    I think these mechanisms evolved over hundreds of millions or years, or longer.

    Humans are very clever, and we do of course store what we can. But things happen, like extra long winters, droughts, taxes and theft, and rodents, and food spoiling. So I think long ago life was pretty dicey. Most animals have some way of surviving without food for some time.

    I have heard of some people going for over a year without eating. Mind you, these people were very large, and under medical supervision. Fat is the perfect fuel for the body...which is why the body stores and values fat.

    In a long famine, those people with the best metabolisms and extra fat tend to live, and others would die. This is natural selection.

    And the severity of food shortages seasonal would depend on the local climate. But way back in time, before humankind first climbed down out of the trees and turned on the TV, these mechanisms must have developed in us, because they exist.

    peace, robert

    Quote Originally Posted by Rimbecano View Post
    Hi again Robert, thanks for all the additional explanations and feedback. If you write this ebook, I'll definitely read it. After reading your last post where you responded to my and other people's questions, I am planning on starting my next fast on Sunday and shooting for 5 days. Congratulations on your 2 long fasts. You are awesome.

    This next paragraph is just food for thought. Not trying to argue against anyone's opinions, just thinking out loud... Out of everything you say, the only thing I have a little trouble understanding is how our fasting mechanisms could have evolved over millions of years in response to our ancestors not having food during winter months: 1) Since the beginning of recorded/archaeological human history, we see peoples all over the world storing foodstuffs for non-growing seasons and also keeping animals (or hunting/fishing/trapping effectively) that could be eaten during non-productive months. This was achievable, and was done, throughout the world even before there was any modern technology or civilization. So, why would humans have gone without this know-how for millions of years, if their bronze age descendants 6,000+ years ago could figure these things out? 2) From what you say about fasting vs. starvation and how to know when to end the fast, it sounds like the doable, healthy limit is somewhere around the 30-40 day range. But it seems to me that necessity-based fasting of true hunter-gatherers in harsh climates who really didn't have any food sources during the winter months, by definition would last several (up to 7) months. Could people survive this? 3) If the evolution of the fasting mechanisms was necessary for survival during winter periods with no food sources, how did the intermediate generations survive while these mechanisms were still evolving? And on the other hand, if these mechanisms evolved and got better over time, why the sudden need, after millions of years, to innovate ways of storing food or obtaining it during winter as we see in even the earliest recorded human history? Again, these doubts are just food for thought. It would be really interesting to consult the akashic records on this.

  2. Re: Fasting Advice - water is key

    Good points, all.

    Peace!

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    Interesting article about burning deep fats:
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/afr...own-fat-tissue

    My best regards...
    Ángel

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    Hello Robert,

    Thanks for all the info on fasting. What is the timing of the enemas during the fast and what solution do you use? - salt water? What is the volume of the solution? - 2 or 4 liters?

    Would taking electrolyte water ( filtered water with calcium, sodium, potassium etc..) be a problem. I read on the above comments you advise against taking vitamins? Why? I thought B and C vitamins were not fat soluble so they were not stored in body fat. The body also need some B vitamins to extract energy from fat.
    Jonathan H

    I want, once and for all, *not* to know many things. Wisdom sets limits to knowledge too.

    Friedrich Nietzsche from Twilight of the Idols

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    Re: Fasting Advice - water is key

    How often you have an enema, and what quantity you use, is entirely up to you.

    I use plain filtered (Reverse Osmosis) water at room temp.

    Daily, while fasting, is best. This way, the body does not need to deal with decomposing waste and can focus all its energy on self healing and self repair.

    Giving yourself an enema is something one needs to learn. You'll find videos and guides on the internet.

    One issue is getting a large enough water bag for a 4 litre (two quart) enema. This solves the problem of how to refill the water bag so you can get the amount desired. Most enema bags I've seen only hold 1 liter or less.

    It is easy, however, to make one yourself that will hold the necessary amount. Of hunt online for one.

    Use 2 to 4 liters, depending on body size and experience.

    When you first start, the bowels will have many folds. These will come out as the bowels are pushed back to their proper shape and size.

    This is why you need a tap on the hose you are using, so you can turn the flow of water on and off. When things get 'tight' turn off water and wait and relax. This gives the bowels time to adjust. Then, when you feel okay, turn water back on. Repeat till you cannot hold any more, which for the average adult is 4 liters (4 quarts).

    Search on youtube for video instructions from people experienced with this.

    It is not a good idea to take any pills at all. The stomach needs to be active in order to digest a pill. During a water fast, it shuts down. So taking anything like a pill or capsule can cause problems. And your body does not need anything but water.

    Electrolyte water can be taken 'as needed' but only if your electrolyte is out of balance. If this happens, you will start to feel ill, dizzy, nausea, etc. When this happens to me, I drink one or two 'pints' of water and soon feel well again. But some people will take electrolyte water, or something like lemon water, or coconut water. But this is not something you would take every day, only in emergencies.

    Water is key for successful easy fasting. Drink a 'lot' of water. And if you feel unwell, drink more and you'll soon feel fine.

    Taking a regular enema also helps you feel better during a fast, as this reduces toxins your body has to deal with.

    Peace, robert

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    Re: Fasting Advice - water is key

    ¿How many liters are contained in a PINT? ¿0.250? ¿0.5?
    General medical consensus advices to drink 2 (two) liters of water per day.

    My best regards,
    Ángel

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    Re: Fasting Advice - water is key

    one pint is about half a liter. Two pints = one quart, which is about one liter.

    How much you drink depends on what you are doing. If you are fasting on water only, you'll need a lot more than two liters, especially if the climate is warm.

    While you are fasting, if you start to feel weak and ill, drink a pint of water...wait five minutes and drink another. You will start to feel much better in a short time. Repeat as necessary.

    I drink approximately 5 or 6 liters a day while I am fasting...sometimes more if the weather is hot.

    robert

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    This is a very interesting post. Thank you so much for it Robert. Im also planning to make a fasting for myself.

    I read in a book about Yoga that people should make two long fasts very year at the change of the periods of the year and many short fast during each month. They suggest to fast one day a week and every 11 day after new/full moon.

    For the long fasts the say fast longer than 3 days, only water is allowed, and continue the fast until you feel a strong urge to eat again.

    Do you think a weekly one-day-fast would increase our health and spirituality?

    Im thinking with starting just a 1 day fast and then another one with 3 days and then start to make longer ones

    Thanks for your answer
    All the best

    PS did you get a change to write that book of yours about fasting? OR do your recommend a good one?

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    Re: Fasting Advice - water is key

    ¡Hi, WhiteMonkey..!

    About your inquiry to Robert Bruce, I remember he recommended following book available online:

    http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201...oser00toc.html

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteMonkey View Post
    This is a very interesting post. Thank you so much for it Robert. Im also planning to make a fasting for myself.
    ...
    ...
    PS did you get a change to write that book of yours about fasting? OR do your recommend a good one?
    My best regards,
    Ángel

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    Re: Fasting Advice - water is key

    Energy Flows Where Attention Goes.

    You need to be prepared to go all the way at every stage approaching kundalini. Robert Bruce

    https://youtu.be/Bi0VxMMdQFw

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